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Title: US death toll in Iraq is ‘mostly white and poor’
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The Herald (UK)
URL Source: http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/new ... q_is_mostly_white_and_poor.php
Published: Mar 27, 2008
Author: Ian Bruce
Post Date: 2008-03-29 21:21:17 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 1158
Comments: 85
The 4000 US soldiers killed in Iraq in the past five years were predominantly white and more than one in three came from poor southern states, according to a casualty analysis carried out by The Herald. Almost one in 10 of the dead were officers, with a heavy toll of captains and lieutenants leading their men from the front. Overall, 97% of them died after the official end of hostilities in May 2003. The fatalities included one Briton from Bedford and a Canadian, both of whom had joined the US Army to see action. There were also 40 native American tribesmen and 44 Pacific islanders. The 36% of southern boys came from small towns such as Bauxite, Arkansas. There were also losses from Glasgow, Kentucky, and Midlothian, Virginia. Texas was hardest hit of the old Confederate states,, losing 371 dead and 2840 wounded, but California suffered 429 deaths, the highest number of fatalities from any home state. By ethnic group, the dead were 75% white, 11% Latino and 9% black. Between 40% and 55% were killed by roadside bombs, although rocket-propelled grenades and gunfire accounted for many of the 137 who fell during the assault on the insurgent-held city of Falluja in November, 2004. US special forces also took heavy losses. Although the Pentagon does not comment on clandestine operations, two naval commanders, five lieutenant-commanders and 52 petty officers - most believed to be members of the US Navy Seals - have been killed. Four colonels and 14 lieutenant-colonels from the army and Marine Corps were the most senior officers to die, joined by 36 majors and several hundred platoon and company commanders. The vast majority of losses were in the 20 to 30 age group, with just 83 of the total aged over 45 and only 33 aged 18. Despite the prohibition on women in combat, there were 98 female deaths, mainly in support units. The mortality rate for women soldiers is 2% of those given Iraq duty. A US officer with Iraq experience said yesterday: "You'll find that the backbone of the US Army has long been poor, white and southern. Small-town rural Dixie has always been a prime recruiting area because there's a shortage of jobs and southerners have a proud military tradition. Sadly, that translates into casualties."
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#45. To: iconoclast (#42)
Much better after I learned the System can be adjusted to select any candidate it chooses. BTW, who have you voted for in your lifetime that has brought America closer to it's Constitutional footing?
LOL, and he'll happily attack those who don't take it.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
The polls show another neck and neck finish at the moment. Course y'all don't believe you're lying eyes in respect to to polls either, so just rant on. Stop blaming the system and those behind the curtain do what you can. Sorry, gotta go.
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
Hey now, don't be dissin' Obama, he understands fully that the Second Amendment applies only to those who wish to hunt game on their private estates.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
I stood in freezing rain for several hours on many, many days holding signs for Ron Paul, passed out literature, donated at least $1000, and basically did everything possible short of actually joining the GOP, so spare me the lecture.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
That discussion of the 2nd, and Obama's take on it, caused more problems with both the right and left. Lots of bruised feelings for merely identifying his draconian position. The thread was a great example of why we're fractured beyond hope, and if the government doesn't legislate us into obscurity, our fellow brethren will.
Whether Obama, Clinton or McCain "wins", it matters not--there shall be yet merely the next in a long line of Israel ass-kissing American Presidents.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Amen brother, Amen. People that harp on "party" are deluding themselves. Really galling is when they come here supporting anyone that is part and parcel of the "system".
Anyone who thinks that Obama is not part of the "system" is delusional. If a presidential candidate isn't a "system lackey", the Ron Paul treatment shall be applied to him/her. Obama simply wouldn't be in a contest with Clinton if he wasn't part and parcel thereof. Obama is there to make the sheeple think they have a choice. And, it is working well.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Great discussion, thoughts, and history - thanks.
No wonder nobody really cares about Iraq. Since no rich white kids are dying, Republicans don't care. Since there are more poor whites than "minorities" being killed, Democrats don't give a damn either.
Fox News was all over the Jessica Lynch story for several months. Oh wait, that all turned out to be a giant lie, didn't it? She'll never work in Hollywood again!
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
How about 20? Is that too optimistic? it is too optimistic...if we're to believe the polls indicating that americans are voting for more and more war. i, for one, don't believe it. i don't think american citizens have a choice. the war party is the U.S. government..repubs and dems alike. afterall, war is the health of the state. it will be the death of the state at some point.
she can't follow a script!!
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
I applaud you ... sincerely and enthusiastically. But why quit after the first quarter and yield to the odious establishment?
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
Anyone who thinks that the Clinton controlled Democrat side of the system thought giving their "house nigger" a spot at the 2004 convention would lead to to his stopping her ascension to the throne in 2008 is beyond delusional. For crysakes get behind the only non-establishment candidate before you're f'ed again!
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
Great idea for a t-shirt design: "I Survived the Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush era.... and all I have left is This Lousy T-Shirt!"
How's not voting, casting worthless third party votes, or sittin' on your ass workin' for yuh?
#46. To: buckeye, iconoclast (#43)
#47. To: Dakmar (#41)
It doesn't matter anyway, the Dems could run Ted Kennedy at this point and still get 60% of the vote, assuming the elections aren't rigged, a longshot at best.
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
#49. To: iconoclast (#47)
Stop blaming the system and those behind the curtain do what you can.
#50. To: Dakmar (#48)
Hey now, don't be dissin' Obama, he understands fully that the Second Amendment applies only to those who wish to hunt game on their private estates.
#51. To: Dakmar (#44)
Research indicates Obama could win with just a little more groveling to the zionists.
#52. To: wbales (#51)
Whether Obama, Clinton or McCain "wins", it matters not--there shall be yet merely the next in a long line of Israel ass-kissing American Presidents.
#53. To: Cynicom (#52)
Really galling is when they come here supporting anyone that is part and parcel of the "system".
#54. To: The Thread (#53)
#55. To: X-15 (#0)
By ethnic group, the dead were 75% white, 11% Latino and 9% black. Between 40% and 55% were killed by roadside bombs, although rocket-propelled grenades and gunfire accounted for many of the 137 who fell during the assault on the insurgent-held city of Falluja in November, 2004.
#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#55)
Since no rich white kids are dying, Republicans don't care.
#57. To: wbales (#29)
I wonder if America could go 100 years without bombing, invading or shooting up some other country. 50?
#58. To: Dakmar (#56)
She'll never work in Hollywood again!
#59. To: Dakmar (#49)
I stood in freezing rain for several hours on many, many days holding signs for Ron Paul, passed out literature, donated at least $1000, and basically did everything possible short of actually joining the GOP, so spare me the lecture.
#60. To: wbales (#53)
Anyone who thinks that Obama is not part of the "system" is delusional.
#61. To: iconoclast (#59)
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
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#62. To: iconoclast (#59)
The only logical next step was joining the GOP to as required to become a delegate, precinct captain, or to use my own description, toady. Seemed a move in the wrong direction. McCain has the nomination sewn up, not a damned thing I do will change that.
But why quit after the first quarter and yield to the odious establishment?
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
#63. To: wbales (#29)
How about 20? Is that too optimistic? The odds are that the Zionist in Washington and Tel Aviv will accelerate the genocidal war against Israel's enemies in the Muslim neighborhood. The warmonger McCain's elevation as the War Party's nominee to run for the White House come November is a declaration of world war in the name of Jewish supremacy. If Bush don't nuke Iran, McCain will. For those Americans who rebel the gulags are already in place.
I wonder if America could go 100 years without bombing, invading or shooting up some other country. 50?
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
#64. To: Dakmar (#62)
When did the Republican Party become a religion?
McCain has the nomination sewn up, not a damned thing I do will change that.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#65. To: iconoclast (#64)
I have no idea what you are getting at. What is so difficult to understand about the fact that McCain has the required number of delegates to secure the nomination?
When did the Republican Party become a religion?
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
#66. To: iconoclast (#60)
Who is that?
get behind the only non-establishment candidate
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
#67. To: X-15 (#0)
Looks like they're attempting to widen their pool of inductees.
"You'll find that the backbone of the US Army has long been poor, white and southern. Small-town rural Dixie has always been a prime recruiting area because there's a shortage of jobs
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
#68. To: Dakmar (#65) (Edited)
I have no idea what you are getting at. It ain't rocket science. How in God's name, viewing the colossal mess the country's in, can polls show a close race upcoming .... 46-43, 45-44 .... McCain ahead! Who are these 46,47 percent that are salivating for four more years of American decline? I can't believe it, unless there's a missing decimal point. In a rational nation the Plutocrats would be getting something closer to 4.6% support. Does almost half the country belong to some bizzaro cult? I can come up with no other answer.
When did the Republican Party become a religion?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#69. To: angle (#66)
Who is that? Clearly the McClintons are the establishment candidates. Do you honestly believe that the Clinton controlled Dim party put Obama behind that podium in '04 with the slightest thought that this man would turn into an uppity nigger that would/could stall Queen Hillary's ascension to the throne?
get behind the only non-establishment candidate
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#70. To: iconoclast (#69)
Please explain why Obama isn't?
Clearly the McClintons are the establishment candidates.
#71. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
Because he is new and fresh. He gives the perception of not being the establishment candidate. I remember a time when you threatened to vote for Obama.
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
Please explain why Obama isn't? Obviously the post you responded to bounced right off your obstinate head. Hell, Obama didn't even have the support of the Black establishment in this country when the campaign began, much less the big boys.
Clearly the McClintons are the establishment candidates.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#73. To: Old Friend (#71)
yeah, fresh and young...but he has been subscribes to a black racist theology, wants my guns and would gladly support the butchery of late term abortion, a procedure I'd reserve solely for seasoned politicians.
#74. To: iconoclast (#72)
Right, that entire thing w/Oprah was an hallucination.
Hell, Obama didn't even have the support of the Black establishment in this country when the campaign began, much less the big boys.
#75. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
Never use facts and truth when confronting people that live in delusions.
Right, that entire thing w/Oprah was an hallucination.
#76. To: iconoclast (#69)
There's no democratic party, there is only the establishment and their money.
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
#77. To: Cynicom (#75)
How does one reach his age and remain a walking cliche ?
#78. To: Jethro Tull (#73)
I don't know what pasotr Wright said that was racist. He may have but I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to that flap. I heard him say that America was run by Rich White people. Well that may sound bad and racist, but it is also true. I'm sure he probably said other such things.
#79. To: Cynicom (#75)
A lot of blacks were supporting Hillary because they didn't think Obama had a chance. SO there is some truth in that statement. John Lewis is one that comes to mind. As well as that asshole from BET that is on CNN regularly.
#80. To: Old Friend (#78)
Afrocentric theology is Marxist at it's base, sprinkled
with lunacy. Such “theology” teaches that whites as “captors” are out to make
blacks “captives,” even killing off blacks. One of the killing techniques is
injecting blacks with the AIDS virus. Now, for Obama to sit in this man's
church, ask that he preside over his marriage and then baptize his children
tells me Obama is steeped in this poison. Iconoclast might be right; he isn't
establishment. He's a black huckster taking guilt ridden whites along for a
ride. Don't start me on his gun grabbing.
I don't know what pasotr Wright said that was racist.
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#80)
As for Aids. I have heard on shows such as Alex Jones that AIDS is man made. What would motivate man to create something like AIDS would be the question. If it is indeed man made. I don't believe most whites are racist today. Especially the younger generation. It just isn't an issue with the younger generation.
#82. To: Old Friend (#81)
Correct. Young whites have willingly accepted placement at the back of the line, thanks to Affirmative Action and other reverse racism programs. The fact that they don't care as much as I do about their lesser status is why I no longer care about their lot. If Jones thinks AIDS was cooked up in some govt. lab, he'd be wise to offer proof.
I don't believe most whites are racist today. Especially the younger generation. It just isn't an issue with the younger generation.
#83. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
He had a guest on that said that. He probably agreed. I would say most young white guys don't agree with affirmative action. They feel disenfranchised and don't have a loyalty to democrats or republicans. At least the ones I have been around.
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
Affirmative Action was designed to foster poor race and gender relations. A more fair law would have been based solely on family income level. Then wealthy and middle-class Asians and Blacks and women would not benefit (nor did they need help), but poor any color would have. This would have gone a long way toward fighting the so-called war on poverty. BTW, women have been the real winners of Affirmative Action.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
#85. To: iconoclast (#68)
I've seen it before. In 2002, the former Dallas nigger mayor Ron Kirk was running against John Cornyn in "a race too close to call" said the MSM. John Cornyn handed the nigger his ass. The MSM is perpetually in a mode of lying.
How in God's name, viewing the colossal mess the country's in, can polls show a close race upcoming .... 46-43, 45-44 .... McCain ahead!
"If the Union was formed by the accession of States, then the Union may be dissolved by the secession of States." ---Daniel Webster, US Senate, Feb. 15, 1833
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