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Title: March of the Obamacons
Source: http://www.takimag.com/
URL Source: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/morning_links1/
Published: Mar 31, 2008
Author: Justin Raimondo
Post Date: 2008-03-31 15:04:14 by robin
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March of the Obamacons—The New York Sun notes that the “surge” is working ... that is, the surge of support for Obama among antiwar Republicans. Lincoln Chafee, Douglas Kmiec, Susan Eisenhower, and, perhaps, Senator Chuck Hagel. As the Sun notes: “Asked yesterday on CNN whether he would endorse his party’s presumptive nominee, Mr. Hagel said he would base his support on the candidates’ positions on withdrawing from Iraq.” While neocon hacks of the Rush Limbaugh variety are calling out the thinning ranks of the GOP troops to switch parties for a day and support Hillary, antiwar Republicans are switching and supporting Obama all without prompting from anyone, and the numbers are impressive in Pennsylvania, where the upcoming Democratic primary is going to be decisive. As the Sun reports:

“Of the 140,000 Pennsylvania Republicans and independents who switched registration in the last year to Democrat, the majority are Obama voters, the director of the Franklin and Marshall College poll, G. Terry Madonna, said. Registration for the state’s closed April 22 primary ended March 24. ‘If 2 million people vote in Pennsylvania, which would be a huge number, I think Obama gets 85,000 to 90,000 switchers,’ Mr. Madonna said. ‘That’s 3 or 4 or 5%, which is a big deal.’”

The Ron Paul Republicans are making a difference, albeit, at this point, a purely negative one. Here’s a nice touch from the Sun piece:

“Another Pennsylvania Republican who supports Mr. Obama is retired Major General Walter Stewart, a township supervisor in Burks County who says he has given money both to an anti-Bush Texas Republican, Rep. Ron Paul, and Mr. Hagel, who he said was his first choice for president this election season.

“General Stewart said he was supporting Mr. Obama because he could not endorse a candidate who voted to authorize the war in Iraq, which he compared to King George’s decision to send the British army and Hessian mercenaries into New York Harbor in the Revolutionary War. In 2004, General Stewart said, he supported Mr. Kerry, the Democratic nominee, over Mr. Bush. ‘I think there is a general feeling in the military that this war in Iraq has been a catastrophe,’ he said.”

Gen. Stewart, meet Andy Bacevich ....

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#1. To: Brian S, aristeides, iconoclast, Elliott Jackalope, Arator, christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, vast rightwing conspiracy, Red Jones (#0)

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robin  posted on  2008-03-31   15:08:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#1)

robin, you're a sweetheart of the 1st order, but if Obama is elected he'd make for the most left leaning president in this nations history. I couldn't ever be part of that legacy. Subtract out his political rhetoric about the war (he'll do the CFRs bidding) and I suspect nobody on this forum would touch him w/ a 10' pole. The (s)election cycle is exhibit "A" in my case for not participating in the fraud that is voting. This country would be better if he and the other two empty suits were renditioned off to gitmo never to be heard from again.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-31   16:52:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull, FOH, robin (#33)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-31   17:03:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: ghostdogtxn (#47)

Ah, pardon me....I don't deserve any of that. When you were wandering about some nameless university, I was working, district by district to elect Ross Perot. Maybe it's me, but I never bought into the nutty smear. He was anti NAFTA/GATT/globalization. Had people listened to us, this economic mess you say I deserve would have been avoided. After he went down I turned my energy to his United We Stand movement - you might have been getting your head shrunk in some online law school by that time. After that fizzle, I worked for Buchanan, giving countless hours and dollars to his political failures. Finally, after 8 years of looking at apple-shaped Americans with glazed over eyes, I dropped out of the voting scam (see Votescam).

So no, I didn't support RP save for $100 worth of beer money that Rowdee has promised to get back for me one day soon and no, I don't deserve any of this mess.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-31   17:18:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-31   17:28:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: ghostdogtxn (#78)

But as for sitting on a high horse and calling everyone who isn't a purist a "sell out" or a "traitor" or a "quisling?"

At least you know what you are...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   17:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: FOH (#98) (Edited)

Founding Father material here on 4um is sadly lacking.

More of a "fifth column type".

Of course after the Revolution, a lot of the nay sayers ran off to Canada to hide.

They ran because they feared the Patriots would hang 'em.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-31   17:53:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Cynicom (#103)

You think we wouldn't join you if it came to that? Just b/c we want the lesser of 3 evils?

This is a delaying tactic, to hopefully (yes it's a gamble) gain time to alert more sheeple.

There is no gamble with McCain or Hillary - they are proven quantities.

Voting 3rd party is a nice statement, for what's worth, but it's not like that's all there is to be done.

I spoke with a guy from the 9/11 LA group; he doesn't even care what's going on with the voting right now. He's focused just on getting info on 9/11 out and all the knowledge about New World Order that goes with it.

robin  posted on  2008-03-31   18:25:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: robin (#109)

I don't think I'd want to join a revolution led by fascists.

I'm willing to form alliances of necessity, so I might be willing to join one that has fascists (or Communists, for that matter) taking part, but I would have to think more than twice about it.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-31   18:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: aristeides (#113)

He referred to the American Revolution, so that's what I was referring to also.

robin  posted on  2008-03-31   19:01:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: robin (#114)

Robin, peas in a pod????

Democrat CFR Candidates:

Barack Obama

Hillary Clinton

John Edwards

Chris Dodd

Bill Richardson

Republican CFR Candidates:

Mitt Romney

Rudy Giuliani

John McCain

Fred Thompson

Newt Gingrich

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-31   19:05:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Cynicom (#116)

If there is a slight difference that leans toward peace, I'll take it to avoid McCain and his end of the world scenario.

robin  posted on  2008-03-31   19:08:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: robin (#118)

, I'll take it to avoid McCain and his end of the world scenario.

McCain is a mad man waiting to get his fingers on the nuclear trigger.

Therefore I can understand you and others "accepting" Clinton/Obama.

People such as myself voting for lesser of evils are the reason we are where we are now.

I voted Perot as did 20 million Americans, the partisans voted the usual, so in my book they are more to blame than myself. Had more of them been Americans, we would never have had Clintons and Bush and certainly not madman McKooK.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-31   19:15:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#122. To: Cynicom (#119)

The best thing that can happen at this point is to keep awakening those willing to follow truth, suppress turnout for the CFR candidates and fight every North American Unioner we come across...IMO.

However, it appears that one NAUer or the other will get a landslide and claim a mandate for their evil...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31 19:18:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Cynicom (#119)

Had more of them been Americans, we would never have had Clintons and Bush and certainly not madman McKooK.

I understand your feelings/opinions on this vote. Hey, I remember someone berating me for not having voted for Anderson.

robin  posted on  2008-03-31 19:19:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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