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Title: March of the Obamacons
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Published: Mar 31, 2008
Author: Justin Raimondo
Post Date: 2008-03-31 15:04:14 by robin
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March of the Obamacons—The New York Sun notes that the “surge” is working ... that is, the surge of support for Obama among antiwar Republicans. Lincoln Chafee, Douglas Kmiec, Susan Eisenhower, and, perhaps, Senator Chuck Hagel. As the Sun notes: “Asked yesterday on CNN whether he would endorse his party’s presumptive nominee, Mr. Hagel said he would base his support on the candidates’ positions on withdrawing from Iraq.” While neocon hacks of the Rush Limbaugh variety are calling out the thinning ranks of the GOP troops to switch parties for a day and support Hillary, antiwar Republicans are switching and supporting Obama all without prompting from anyone, and the numbers are impressive in Pennsylvania, where the upcoming Democratic primary is going to be decisive. As the Sun reports:
“Of the 140,000 Pennsylvania Republicans and independents who switched registration in the last year to Democrat, the majority are Obama voters, the director of the Franklin and Marshall College poll, G. Terry Madonna, said. Registration for the state’s closed April 22 primary ended March 24. ‘If 2 million people vote in Pennsylvania, which would be a huge number, I think Obama gets 85,000 to 90,000 switchers,’ Mr. Madonna said. ‘That’s 3 or 4 or 5%, which is a big deal.’”
The Ron Paul Republicans are making a difference, albeit, at this point, a purely negative one. Here’s a nice touch from the Sun piece:
“Another Pennsylvania Republican who supports Mr. Obama is retired Major General Walter Stewart, a township supervisor in Burks County who says he has given money both to an anti-Bush Texas Republican, Rep. Ron Paul, and Mr. Hagel, who he said was his first choice for president this election season.
“General Stewart said he was supporting Mr. Obama because he could not endorse a candidate who voted to authorize the war in Iraq, which he compared to King George’s decision to send the British army and Hessian mercenaries into New York Harbor in the Revolutionary War. In 2004, General Stewart said, he supported Mr. Kerry, the Democratic nominee, over Mr. Bush. ‘I think there is a general feeling in the military that this war in Iraq has been a catastrophe,’ he said.”
Gen. Stewart, meet Andy Bacevich ....
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#1. To: Brian S, aristeides, iconoclast, Elliott Jackalope, Arator, christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, vast rightwing conspiracy, Red Jones (#0)
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'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Oh great, another FLAKE gets some press. Nice to see Ron Paul's name in this mess. Never mind that sKerry and Whorege both jacked off in the same One World Monopolist S&B coffin...you Obamaphiles are all idiots, liars, frauds, cons and in general serious losers that prop up the illegal shadow government by playing their game. I guess when you have NOTHING better to do with yourself...probably collecting some form of welfare/medicare/etc. whilst sitting on otherwise fat and dead asses. FOH
Save your diatribe for General Stewart and these other Conservatives: support for Obama among antiwar Republicans. Lincoln Chafee, Douglas Kmiec, Susan Eisenhower, and, perhaps, Senator Chuck Hagel
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I don't believe more than 3% of Americans are Constitutionists/Conservatives anymore and if you ever were yourself you threw it all away for a CFR-controlled, Marxist Black Panther gun-grabbing baby-murdering thief...you found one of their 3 palatable and you sold yourself out. What does that make you, robin?
Someone who will NOT be voting to allow or support Hillary or McCain. How about you?
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
LOLOL! That's why the GOP/RAT Party is dead to us 3%ers...
Good grief you're stupid...3 faces, 1 game. You fell for it. Or did you even have to fall...?
interesting...did these anti-war repubs vote for the war and give support for the surge?
BTW, why are YOU posting 'secret world rulers' when you're supporting one of their puppets? Idiot...
Here's Hagel:
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
There is a list at the first link, and if you search on their names you can read about them from that link. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...ial_campaign_endorsements en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee Chafee was the only Republican in the Senate to have voted against authorization of the use of force in Iraq. On June 22, 2006, Chafee was the only Republican to vote for the Levin amendment calling for a non-binding timetable for a withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. He voted against the Kerry-Feingold amendment calling for a binding timetable.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Chafee voted against the authorization for use of military force in Iraq back in 2002, and has opposed the war ever since. Hagel voted for the AUMF, with misgivings, but has been very critical of the war for years.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Kmiec Douglas Kmiec, legal counsel to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and co-chairman of Romney's Committee for the Courts and the Constitution Douglas Kmiec, Conservative Professor, Defends Obama Endorsement
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Why I'm Backing Obama Forty-seven years ago, my grandfather Dwight D. Eisenhower bid farewell to a nation he had served for more than five decades. In his televised address, Ike famously coined the term "military-industrial complex," and he offered advice that is still relevant today. "As we peer into society's future," he said, we "must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow." ... The biggest barrier to rolling up our sleeves and preparing for a better future is our own apathy, fear or immobility. We have been living in a zero-sum political environment where all heads have been lowered to avert being lopped off by angry, noisy extremists. I am convinced that Barack Obama is the one presidential candidate today who can encourage ordinary Americans to stand straight again; he is a man who can salve our national wounds and both inspire and pursue genuine bipartisan cooperation. Just as important, Obama can assure the world and Americans that this great nation's impulses are still free, open, fair and broad-minded.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
i can see now why he couldn't possibly support mcCain, but i'll be very surprised if he and the others jump ship to actually vote for obama assuming he gets the dem nomination. i would think this would hurt them with their constituents.
Most folks who have seen war, Hagel and I are both Vietnam Vets, are not too keen on rushing into other wars, especially unnecessary ones. Most warmongers, on the other hand, are armchair warriors like Cheney or Bush, or an occasional crazy, darling of the MSM type, who once piloted jet fighters, six of which never landed, and who dropped some live bombs on the deck of the USS Forestall that killed over 160 of his fellow sailors. If Genghis W. Bush don't nuke Iran, McCain will. The Zionists who run Washington and Tel Aviv will not end the genocidal war against Israel's enemies in the Muslim neighborhood, even if it means every goy in America must die. Zionism is America's form of national suicide, is her idolatry, is her inasnity. Jewish supremacy is its cult.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
After having just gone through 7+ years of economic collapse, the worst military debacle in our history, guns and butter legislating, skyrocketing prices, explosion of pork barrel spending (including earmarks), lack of vetoes, the multiple lies, etc. etc. ad nauseam .... the polls that are currently showing another neck and neck finish simply boggle my mind??? I can only attribute it to party-addicted habit voters that seem to regard touching a lever without an R on it as tantamount to something resembling vampires being confronted by a cross in a B-movie horror flick. Four years of Obama isn't going to change D.C. into Moscow or Capetown anymore than four years of Ron could've changed it into 18th century Philadelphia.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Hagel's seat in the Senate is up for reelection, Hagel has announced he is not running, and so he will be leaving the Senate in January.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Four -- or even fewer -- years of McCain, on the other hand, could turn D.C. into a nuclear wasteland.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Excellent post robin. The Bush-Cheney administration is the personification of the "military-industrial complex" writ large.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Far left "Americans" said the same about Goldwater, and we got one hell of a war that turned Veitnam into a wasteland. Bet you voted "all the way with LBJ".
Almost 3/4 of the American people abhor this war. Explains why several Republican stalwarts, Hastert for instance, have already announced that they will not run for re-election.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Ok Susie... Is it true Obummers money is coming from loaded white guilt Americans????
Uh oh, the Eisenhower/Jew connection! Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007 I'm sure glad your boy Barry Obama believes I should still be allowed to HUNT... Robin, you went from the anti-Establishment, Conservative-Constitutionalist Ron Paul to the Establishment's CFR-puppet-Marxist, Globalist, RATED #1 MOST LIBERAL Senator Barry Obama...and you believe you should be taken seriously...? LOLOL! Uh oh, the Eisenhower/Jew connection! Notice she very nicely omitted Nixon as a near family member?????????????? The money comes from sources other than Harlem.
CFR's Hagel Stepping Down From Senate Here's the basic rule of thumb...if they're members, you don't believe a word they say and if they claim the sky is blue, go outside and make sure. When you understand that these Obamaphiles have seen the same evidence we have, and you believe them to be somewhat intellectually capable...then their intellectual dishonesty must lead one to ask themselves if they weren't lying frauds all along. Get my drift?
You'll find a Communist World Citizen or Master behind each FRN sent to the campaign...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I wonder why Susie did not use her real name?????? Both her grandfathers were Jews, and she is married to a former aide to dictator Gorbachev named Sagdeev. Damned good family ties. No wonder she uses the sanitized Eisehhower name.
So now you're defending McCain? I can't say I'm surprised.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
robin, you're a sweetheart of the 1st order, but if Obama is elected he'd make for the most left leaning president in this nations history. I couldn't ever be part of that legacy. Subtract out his political rhetoric about the war (he'll do the CFRs bidding) and I suspect nobody on this forum would touch him w/ a 10' pole. The (s)election cycle is exhibit "A" in my case for not participating in the fraud that is voting. This country would be better if he and the other two empty suits were renditioned off to gitmo never to be heard from again.
I trust few that rise that far at any time and with good reason, as our military's leadership are in bed with the Establishment and are currently working for the North American Union...in this guy's case, F-L-A-K-E-Y-F-L-A-K-E.
You lying traitors are the butt of many-a-joke...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Ari... You are an admitted Obummer worshipper and voted for LBJ, that goes well together. Again you shallow political acumen is showing, you might hitch it up a notch or two with some interesting commentary above third grade level.
I thought you despised McCain. I guess that was all an act.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
And the first boatload AWAY from the Forrestal contained "McKooK"
There are thousands of real patriots that have your number, bluedog...
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#2. To: robin (#0)
In 2004, General Stewart said, he supported Mr. Kerry, the Democratic nominee, over Mr. Bush. ‘I think there is a general feeling in the military that this war in Iraq has been a catastrophe,’ he said.”
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#3. To: FOH (#2)
#4. To: robin (#3)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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#5. To: FOH (#4)
#6. To: robin (#3)
Republican Lincoln Chafee
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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#7. To: robin (#5)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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#8. To: robin (#0)
(Edited)
The New York Sun notes that the “surge” is working ... that is, the surge of support for Obama among antiwar Republicans. Lincoln Chafee, Douglas Kmiec, Susan Eisenhower, and, perhaps, Senator Chuck Hagel.
#9. To: robin (#5)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#10. To: christine (#8)
#11. To: christine (#8)
#12. To: christine (#8)
#13. To: christine, aristeides (#8)
#14. To: aristeides, christine (#12)
By Susan Eisenhower
#15. To: robin (#10)
Like the leading Republican candidate, John McCain, he was viewed as a straight talking maverick. Now, the two are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to the Iraq War and more and more of his fellow Republicans in the Senate are uncomfortable with Hagel's criticism of President Bush.
#16. To: aristeides (#12)
Hagel voted for the AUMF, with misgivings, but has been very critical of the war for years.
#17. To: robin (#1)
#18. To: christine (#15)
i would think this would hurt them with their constituents.
#19. To: iconoclast (#17)
Four years of Obama isn't going to change D.C. into Moscow or Capetown anymore than four years of Ron could've changed it into 18th century Philadelphia.
#20. To: robin (#14)
Ike famously coined the term "military-industrial complex"
#21. To: aristeides (#19)
Four -- or even fewer -- years of McCain, on the other hand, could turn D.C. into a nuclear wasteland.
#22. To: christine (#15)
i would think this would hurt them with their constituents.
#23. To: robin (#14)
I am convinced that Barack Obama is the one presidential candidate today who can encourage ordinary Americans to stand straight again; he is a man who can salve our national wounds and both inspire and pursue genuine bipartisan cooperation. Just as important, Obama can assure the world and Americans that this great nation's impulses are still free, open, fair and broad-minded.
#24. To: robin (#14)
Susan Eisenhower
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#25. To: FOH (#24)
Susan Eisenhower
#26. To: christine (#15)
i can see now why he couldn't possibly support mcCain, but i'll be very surprised if he and the others jump ship to actually vote for obama assuming he gets the dem nomination. i would think this would hurt them with their constituents.
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#27. To: Cynicom, robin (#25)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#28. To: Cynicom (#23)
Is it true Obummers money is coming from loaded white guilt Americans????
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#29. To: FOH (#2)
#30. To: FOH, robin (#4)
#31. To: FOH, robin, iconoclast (#27)
(Edited)
#32. To: Cynicom (#21)
Far left "Americans" said the same about Goldwater, and we got one hell of a war that turned Veitnam into a wasteland. Bet you voted "all the way with LBJ".
#33. To: robin (#1)
#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#29)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#35. To: ghostdogtxn, robin (#30)
Pragmatic.
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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#36. To: Zoroaster (#16)
#37. To: FOH (#35)
#38. To: aristeides (#32)
So now you're defending McCain? I can't say I'm surprised.
#39. To: Cynicom (#38)
#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#36)
#41. To: ghostdogtxn (#37)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
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