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Title: Doctors support universal health care: survey (Stupid Communists)
Source: reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/heal ... edType=RSS&feedName=healthNews
Published: Mar 31, 2008
Author: Maggie Fox; Editing by Will Dunham and X
Post Date: 2008-03-31 17:55:53 by FOH
Keywords: Communist, Socialist, Bastards
Views: 136
Comments: 17

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.

The survey suggests that opinions have changed substantially since the last survey in 2002 and as the country debates serious changes to the health care system.

Of more than 2,000 doctors surveyed, 59 percent said they support legislation to establish a national health insurance program, while 32 percent said they opposed it, researchers reported in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine.

The 2002 survey found that 49 percent of physicians supported national health insurance and 40 percent opposed it.

"Many claim to speak for physicians and represent their views. We asked doctors directly and found that, contrary to conventional wisdom, most doctors support national health insurance," said Dr. Aaron Carroll of the Indiana University School of Medicine, who led the study.

"As doctors, we find that our patients suffer because of increasing deductibles, co-payments, and restrictions on patient care," said Dr. Ronald Ackermann, who worked on the study with Carroll. "More and more, physicians are turning to national health insurance as a solution to this problem."

PATCHWORK

The United States has no single organized health care system. Instead it relies on a patchwork of insurance provided by the federal and state governments to the elderly, poor, disabled and to some children, along with private insurance and employer-sponsored plans.

Many other countries have national plans, including Britain, France and Canada, and several studies have shown the United States spends more per capita on health care, without achieving better results for patients.

An estimated 47 million people have no insurance coverage at all, meaning they must pay out of their pockets for health care or skip it.

Contenders in the election for president in November all have proposed various changes, but none of the major party candidates has called for a fully national health plan.

Insurance companies, retailers and other employers have joined forces with unions and other interest groups to propose their own plans.

"Across the board, more physicians feel that our fragmented and for-profit insurance system is obstructing good patient care, and a majority now support national insurance as the remedy," Ackermann said in a statement.

The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists, 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists, 65 percent of pediatricians, 64 percent of internists, 60 percent of family physicians and 55 percent of general surgeons favor a national health insurance plan.

The researchers said they believe the survey was representative of the 800,000 U.S. medical doctors.


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#1. To: FOH (#0)

The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists, 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists, 65 percent of pediatricians, 64 percent of internists, 60 percent of family physicians and 55 percent of general surgeons favor a national health insurance plan.

Let's fix this statement, shall we?

The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists, 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists, 65 percent of pediatricians, 64 percent of internists, 60 percent of family physicians and 55 percent of general surgeons favor a taxpayer-funded paycheck where they are guaranteed an income.

There, all done!

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-31   22:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mirage (#1)

Free health care for all, watch the doctors all become newly minted millionaires.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-31   22:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Free health care for all, watch the doctors all become newly minted millionaires.

"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."
- P. J. O'Rourke

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-31   22:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mirage (#1)

Well done.

I wonder if the survery was limited only to Communists born in America, or if the imported hordes were also surveyed?


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   22:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mirage (#1)

Let's fix this statement, shall we?

The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists, 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists, 65 percent of pediatricians, 64 percent of internists, 60 percent of family physicians and 55 percent of general surgeons favor a taxpayer-funded paycheck where they are guaranteed an income. There, all done!

Let's fix this statement, shall we?

The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists [free lobotomy], 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists [gang banger reduction plan], 65 percent of pediatricians,[free RFID implants] 64 percent of internists,[Free Blow Jobs] 60 percent of family physicians [Gay Families welcome] and 55 percent of general surgeons [government protection from surgical litigation] favor a taxpayer-funded paycheck where they are guaranteed a litigation free income. There, all done!

Guns don't kill people ... Governments do

noone222  posted on  2008-03-31   22:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mirage, Cynicom (#3)

Where are all the resident 4um Commies beating their chests?

I guess there's no need to hear from them when they have what they want...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   22:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#5)

Bravo!


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   22:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FOH, Cynicom (#6)

Where are all the resident 4um Commies beating their chests?

Its the last day of the month, so my best guess is that its welfare check day in many parts of the country.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-31   22:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mirage (#8)

Its the last day of the month, so my best guess is that its welfare check day in many parts of the country.

LOLOL


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   22:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#2)

I like this analysis by Polak at LF:

Quote:

Yeah, while we're on the topic,let me ask you about whether there's a solution that could work in the problem of unbelievably corrupted government?

This, of course, is always my favorite topic. Sorry I am replying to it with a delay.

Ultimately, the problem with a corrupted government is not government by itself but the army of morons whom they created as its means of support. Totalitarian government always gets created by promising morons pies in the sky, ALWAYS. Morons who get the “free samples” of pies from the sky are the eyes, ears, and field muscle of the corrupted government out there in the field.

The self appointed lord on the castle, the man behind the curtain hell bent on totalitarian rule institutes pies in the sky programs first as voluntary charity which gradually morphs into dictate enforced with the gun. And, the real reason is not to provide pies in the sky, but to create totalitarian rule for the self appointed demigods who, for one reason or another, feel themselves entitled to being the lords on the castle. Anyone who opposes the lord on the castle is then being accused starving orphans, widows, killing children, etc, etc. Mobs of morons then destroy directly or indirectly everyone who still produces any wealth as the enemy of the pies-in-the-sky utopia, the reason that pies-from-the-sky are not coming. They are too stupid to even be aware of the man behind the curtain. They want “their share” of wealth of say a local baker. No matter how bad this becomes, the morons are unwilling to give up their utopia. Doing that would mean admitting that they have been idiots all along and people rarely do that.

With time, police state has to be instituted to save the system, to prevent the morons still believing in the system from murdering one another. But, of course, this only makes matters worse. At the end the morons eat grass, rats, and each other. Nothing can prevent that once the pies-in-the-sky government has totalitarian power. You can see it in US of today. If Ron Paul became president, would he be able and willing to feed all the morons and change their diapers? No, he would only be set up as the fall guy.

So, how do you oppose the corrupted system like that? Well, to make long story short, you are going to be accused of starving children of morons ANYWAY, so you might as well do it. The fact that people producing food and wealth don’t have enough balls to do that when it is still time to do it is the reason why that system takes off the ground in the first place. In a very real way, say Somali warlords have much more understanding of the game than western populations. When someone starts dropping pies from a helicopter, you shoot down the helicopter. If you are unwilling to do that, you lose the game.

www.youtube.com/watch? v=AUJ6cxWdZwA

Watch the complete footage of the Black guy explaining the concept to the idiot US general. Could not find the whole thing.

At the early stage of the game, all that requires is simply to stop working. Produce enough you need for yourself and then stop. Ultimately, you are doing the morons a favor by not producing the wealth that would be stolen for them. It saves them from eating one another at the end. Go sailing, instead of bending over backwards to be “successful” within that system. This is what could have stopped the system from taking off in the first place. Accelerate the collapse. The longer it lasts, the more healthy people it destroys and the harder it is going to be at the end.

Once the system takes of and becomes “law-of-the-land”, you really have two choices:

1. Vote with your feet or

2. Play by prisoner of war, guerilla fighter rules:

As in: Make the enemy waste as much energy as possible to maintain the system, destroy all “free samples” of pies from the sky about to be delivered, wreck the infrastructure, make the enemy exert massive amount of energy to guard you or against you, etc.

Because #2 is hard to do, the option #1 is preferable if it exists. This is the reason why Russia is blowing it big time. Until we find another planet to run to, Russia is the last place on Earth that has the land resources to become what US was when it was sane, when it was a Mecca for those who did not want to participate in these idiocies while they were starting in Europe. If Russia does not do that, it will eventually loose all that land to the Chinese. If it did that, it could become the greatest place on Earth. Among other things, it would allow remaining normal people of the US to go there and make it the greatest place on Earth instead of being killed off one by one by Police State USA.

"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa

angle  posted on  2008-03-31   22:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeye, christine, Vitamin Z, honway, Old Fud, Uncle Bill (#10)

ping to 10


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   22:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: angle (#10)

No matter how bad this becomes, the morons are unwilling to give up their utopia. Doing that would mean admitting that they have been idiots all along and people rarely do that.

With time, police state has to be instituted to save the system, to prevent the morons still believing in the system from murdering one another.

that might be the aim, but the police state won't keep the morons from murdering one another.

Russia anyone?

christine  posted on  2008-03-31   23:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#12)

The Global 10/90 Rule is coming to America very soon it appears...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   23:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FOH, christine, Vitamin Z, honway, Old Fud, Uncle Bill, angle (#11) (Edited)

Knocking on Heaven's Door: Black Hawk Down fan video with Avril Lavigne singing.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-31   23:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeye (#14)

I got Zakk Wylde riding some mean riffs...and Halle Berry sucking face.


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-01   0:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FOH (#15)

Zakk's OK, but try again.

buckeye  posted on  2008-04-01   0:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeye (#14)

Cool. Thanks!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-04-01   0:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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