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Title: Obama: I don't carry a Council on Foreign Relations card or know any 'special handshake'
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_no_secret_trade_deals_0331.html
Published: Mar 31, 2008
Author: David Edwards and Eric Mayes
Post Date: 2008-03-31 18:47:26 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 1537
Comments: 98

Worries about One World Order and a North American Union have been "ginned up by the blogs and the Internet," Sen. Barack Obama told a Lancaster, Pennsylvania audience in a stump speech as he continued his tour through the battleground state.

The Illinois senator also defended the recently re-authorized Patriot Act.

Responding to a question from the audience, asking whether he was a member for the Council on Foreign Relations, a group many allege is leading a move toward one world government, Obama said:

"I don’t know if I’m an official member. I’ve spoken there before. It basically is a forum where people talk about foreign policy. There is no official membership. I don’t have a card, or you know a special handshake or anything like that."

Sen. Hillary Clinton has spoken several times to the club. Comments she made today against NAFTA, were posted on the group's website.

Often, because the council has served as lightning rod for conspiracy theorists, candidates shy away from listing their affiliation with the group.

Vice President Dick Cheney is a former director but has taken pains not to publicize the fact.

"I’ve been a member for long and was actually a director for some period of time," he told members in a speech broadcast on C-Span and now on YouTube, adding, "I never mentioned that when I was running for re-election back home in Wyoming."

The council has been at the center of several One World Order conspiracies with theorists contending that the group is conspiring to bring about one world government and a North American Union similar to the European Union.

Obama dismissed those notions.

"I see no evidence of this actually taking place," he said. "I think this is something that has been ginned up on certain blogs and the Internet. It was based mostly on the fact that there is this highway being built in Texas that will facilitate transportation more transportation between Mexico and the intercontinental United States and Canada...NAFTA helped to break down barriers, but I don’t think there is some conspiracy to create this one continental government."

This video is from CNN.com, broadcast March 31, 2008:

Defends portions of Patriot Act

Obama said he opposed NAFTA because it didn’t offer enough protections to American workers but he defended portions of the Patriot Act which he said he worked on to cut out some of the most objectionable portions.

Free trade has been an issue across the nation in this campaign particularly as many once prosperous industrial states struggle with ways to cope with the changing global economy. It was a critical issue for voters in Ohio where Clinton managed to beat Obama. Pennsylvania voters have expressed similar concerns.

Obama said he did not support NAFTA.

"I was opposed to NAFTA because I thought that it didn’t have the labor and environmental standards and the safety standards that would look out for US workers," replied Obama.

Clinton’s husband oversaw passage of NAFTA but today she called for parts of it to be renegotiated.

"I spoke out against it starting in 1992 -- the president made a different decision," Clinton said. "I think now with 14 years of experience under our belt, we can see that in some parts of our country there have been, perhaps, some economic advantages, but in other parts of our country, like where we are right here in northwest Indiana, it hasn't worked as it was promised, and therefore I think we need to renegotiate it," she told an Indiana audience today.

Obama also spoke about the Patriot Act, which he voted to re-authorize.

The Patriot Act is not the problem, he said. A series of executive orders is what has really eroded civil liberties.

"Most of the problem that we have had in civil liberties were not done in the Patriot Act they were done in executive order by George W. Bush...I will reverse them with the stroke of a pen," he said, listing the establishment of Guantanamo Bay, warrantless wiretaps and the suspension of Habeas Corpus.

Other parts of the law were valid, he said.

"There were some provisions in the Patriot Act that did address changes that needed to take place," said Obama, citing as an example a clause that now allows the government to tap cellular phones.

His work he said, kept many of the worst portions of the law from being re-enacted.

"We instituted a series of amendments that changed some of the worst excesses of the previous law," he said.

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#18. To: robin, FOH, Cynicom (#0)

1. Obama's wife is a CFR member, and the person asked about her, too.
2. There is a lot of evidence that the NAU is moving forward. To blatantly deny it ("ginned up in certain blogs") is to admit that he's in favor of it.
3. The NAU is much more than a highway. He effectively defends harmonization and trade benefits of NAFTA later. (Breaks down trade "barriers.")
4. Top political support for the EU was flatly denied until it was nearly inevitable.
5. The "positive" Patriot act provisions he cites are bogus. The Federal Wiretap Act, or Title III, permitted roving taps (already excessive) that included wireless phones. The government does not need access to our library records. The government already had too much power. 9/11 happened because of government incompetence or malice, not legal firewalls. That's one of the worst encroachments Obama could have defended.
6. He may have taught it, but he is no patriot on the Constitution.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-31   19:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sad.

All the phonies are being exposed, though...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   19:22:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All the phonies are being exposed, though...

I disagree with you there. This is politics. You and I seem to believe that it doesn't matter which candidate of the anointed three wins. Others may think that degrees of difference are worth some weight. That is their opinion, and in the people I know here on 4, it does not strike me as being disloyal.

Obama's stated opinions on the Zionist issue seem very important to many. So has been his reluctance to meddle in Iraq.

This pair of We are Change videos indicates that although Obama's foreign policy adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski has had less interventionist opinions over the past 20 years, he defends the Bilderberg group, he denies a one-world government conspiracy in the TLC, and he appears to resent attempts to engage in critical dialog with others who strongly disagree with his opinions.

But Brzezinski is a "better" globalist than Norman Podhoretz. For example, he is very critical of the impact of the pro-Israel lobby in Washington. This is a significant difference on Obama's inner circle with say Rudy Giuliani's team of advisers.

Keep in mind that people are desperate for any positive indication of improvement among the candidates. Obama is better than the others in several minor ways. Unfortunately, these appearances may even get a candidate in serious trouble once he is elected, if he tries to act on them.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-31   19:38:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't accept any nuanced arguments for the OWMs my friend...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   19:43:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I realize that, but is it fair to insult people who want to choose the least aggressive OWMer of the leading candidates? What is their alternative?

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-31   19:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This has been a very instructive exercise, though, in whether or not there's anything or anyone left in this former great nation worth fighting for.

Reality is the alternative.

That, and BUCKING UP...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   19:50:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm interested in working with people who support Obama, not against them. I see how they think, and it isn't necessarily traitorous.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-31   19:53:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm interested in working with people who support Obama

Have fun...those spineless jellyfish don't deserve you.

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   19:57:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I got your invite to the jacuzzi party. How many guys are coming? ;-}

Trace21231  posted on  2008-03-31   20:01:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You want a piece of my fine action, too?

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   20:13:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You want a piece of my fine action, too?

You promised me some.

(Your so sexy when you're like this.)

Trace21231  posted on  2008-03-31   20:15:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

WADR, I have to put you on the filter.

You're far too into Republicratism...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-31   20:22:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#43. To: FOH (#42)

I have to put you on the filter.

I got you PM. I understand. It will be just between you and I.

Trace21231  posted on  2008-03-31 20:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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