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Title: Obama Would Consider Gore for Major Post
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VPS88O2&show_article=1
Published: Apr 2, 2008
Author: DEVLIN BARRETT
Post Date: 2008-04-02 13:57:38 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 1636
Comments: 109

WALLINGFORD, Pa. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama says as president he would consider putting Al Gore in a Cabinet-level position—or higher. A woman at a town hall asked the Illinois senator if elected president would he consider tapping the former vice president for his Cabinet, or an even higher level office, to address global warming.

"I would," Obama said. "Not only will I, but I will make a commitment that Al Gore will be at the table and play a central part in us figuring out how we solve this problem. He's somebody I talk to on a regular basis. I'm already consulting with him in terms of these issues but climate change is real."

-Snip


Poster Comment:

Armand Hammer, Occidental Petroleum, and the Gore Family

 

* Lenin presented an inscribed portrait to "Comrade Armand Hammer" in 1921, The inscription has Lenin in parentheses & Ulanioff, his birth name.

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#23. To: Jethro Tull (#15) (Edited)

National *Globalist Party?

*Globalist = "Capitalist-Commie-Fascist"


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: iconoclast (#18)

Gore's speech on constitutional issues that I linked to in #8 did not strike me as the speech of a stupid man when I heard it.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   14:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#16)

Unbelievable according to everything I know and have heard about you, robin...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: iconoclast (#18)

Heretic!!


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Peppa (#21)

The Lieberals/Globalists love the Establishment...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#22)

S

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C

K

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R

!!


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

A Commentary on the War Against Terror: Our Larger Tasks Author: Al Gore

February 12, 2002 Council on Foreign Relations

www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=4343 [snip] "As important as identifying Iraq, Iran and North Korea for what they are, we must be equally bold in identifying other evils that confront us. For there is another Axis of Evil in the world: poverty and ignorance; disease and environmental disorder; corruption and political oppression. We may well put down terror in its present manifestations. But if we do not attend to the larger fundamentals as well, then the ground is fertile and has been seeded for the next generation of those born to hate us, who will hold these things up before the world's poor and dispossessed, and say that all these things are in our image, and rekindle the war we are now hoping to snuff out. “Draining the swamp” of terrorism must of course in the first instance mean destroying the ability of terrorist networks to function. But drying it up at its source must also mean draining the aquifer of anger that underlies terrorism: anger that enflames the hearts of so many young men, and makes them willing, dedicated recruits for terror. Anger at perceived historical injustices involving a mass-memory throughout the Islamic world of past glory and more recent centuries of decline and oppression at the hands of the West. " [snip]

Bombing them into prosperity and good govenors of the earth. Presidential logic. I guess he didn't read the CFR reports on the ME before he opened his yap.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   14:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Peppa (#29)

Too easy.

I wonder why so many supposed Conservative-Constitutionists that supported Ron Paul buy into the Globalist-Commie-Fascists' schtick?

Maybe they want the Nanny State...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lodwick (#20)

Mental telepathy bump

A little spooky! ;-)

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   14:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FOH (#27)

The Lieberals/Globalists love the Establishment...

Rabid defenders of the hate machines. They know better but do it anyway.

(everybody sing!)

You got to walk, that lonesome valley,
You got to walk it by yourself
Oh, nobody else, can walk it for you,
You got to walk it by yourself.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   14:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FOH (#30)

Maybe they want the Nanny State...

Who knows. Control over others. They're wired different.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: aristeides (#24)

Gore's speech on constitutional issues that I linked to in #8 did not strike me as the speech of a stupid man when I heard it.

Oh, I'm confident the speech writer had him by at least 50 IQ points.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: iconoclast (#34)

It says something for someone if he can choose good speech writers.

Compare Bush. Compare McCain.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   15:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Peppa (#33)

They're wired different.

I guess I am. I'm wired to want an end to the aggressive wars and violations of civil liberties of the Bush regime.

You folks seem wired to have different priorities.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   15:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: aristeides (#35)

It says something for someone if he can choose good speech writers.

Compare Bush. Compare McCain.

You have a point, but it's pretty faint praise.

I already did compare them in a previous post and in another context.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Peppa (#32)

Some 50 years of "Sex, Drugs and Rock'N'Roll" didn't seem to help the "Republic"...that's going to draw some boos and hisses I'm sure. heheh


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#36)

Sounds good, but you're a dyed in the wool Lieberal supporting the World Commies...so you don't pass even the long distance smell test.


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#36)

To: Peppa

They're wired different. I guess I am. I'm wired to want an end to the aggressive wars and violations of civil liberties of the Bush regime.

You folks seem wired to have different priorities.

Sorry, you support a candidate that has not voted according to your values. Period.

That you continue to stick a fork in your own eye isn't my fault, but unfortunately, becomes everyones problem. Frankly, I consider it cowardly. Maybe you just want to BELIEVE. Well believe this, the more power you give to government over you, the more they will take. And who are you to condemn us all for your weakness?

My folks? Ah, you mean freedom loving Americans? Yes, we do have different priorities than you. You need a government teat and a sick need to control everyone else.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FOH (#38) (Edited)

Some 50 years of "Sex, Drugs and Rock'N'Roll" didn't seem to help the "Republic"...that's going to draw some boos and hisses I'm sure. heheh

That the drugs are used to destroy the mind and potential is evil. Whether they are legal or illegal. However, I basically subscribe to the belief that a person has the right to do what he wants to himself, as long as he does not hurt others or nature.

I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Peppa (#40) (Edited)

WELL said!

The self-involved elites suffer from diverse spiritual and mental issues IMO...a prevailing darkness if you will.

That's fine as long as they take it somewhere else (as in out of my face) and quit using government to sanction it...

"Liberty is never given, it is always taken"


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Peppa (#40)

You must be confusing me with someone else. As I have said repeatedly, what I want is an end to the Bush regime's wars of aggression and violations of civil liberties. What is cowardly about that?

I think the cowardly people are the ones who want -- or at least are willing -- to see those atrocities continue, just so that they can feel safe.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   15:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: aristeides (#36)

You folks seem wired to have different priorities.

And how ... with head slowly shaking.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Peppa (#41) (Edited)

I agree, live and let live. I'm a libertarian in many if not most ways.

'Cept that's not what they do...(live and let live)


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: aristeides (#36)

I'm wired to want an end to the aggressive wars and violations of civil liberties of the Bush regime.

You folks seem wired to have different priorities.

Anyone who wants McCain, a continuation of the Bush Regime, would be very busy on boards bashing and smearing any opponent of McCain and his 100 years of wars in the ME.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   15:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Peppa (#41)

That the drugs are used to destroy the mind and potential is evil. Whether they are legal or illegal. However, I basically subscribe to the belief that a person has the right to do what he want's to himself, as long as he does not hurt others or nature.

May the bird of paradise shit a crack house in your back yard.

Ever had an addict in your family?

And, please don't bring up the sorry "War on Drugs".

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin (#46)

Anyone who wants McCain, a continuation of the Bush Regime, would be very busy on boards bashing and smearing any opponent of McCain and his 100 years of wars in the ME.

You're the one supporting McHillObama, robin.

You fraud.


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Peppa (#41)

I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues.

Thats' quite a confession, Hon .... I don't believe it. :-)

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: aristeides (#43) (Edited)

You must be confusing me with someone else. As I have said repeatedly, what I want is an end to the Bush regime's wars of aggression and violations of civil liberties. What is cowardly about that?

I think the cowardly people are the ones who want -- or at least are willing -- to see those atrocities continue, just so that they can feel safe.

You want to believe that Obama is different on the war and he isn't. His advisors want bigger wars, globalism and further suspension of civil liberties. Why you refuse to acknowledge this is perplexing, if you were in control of common sense. You are a neo-con and perhaps don't realize it. Your position is that you will sacrifice everything for something you imagine is true. That you can't face it, is cowardly.

No one wants the atrocities to end more than the Ron Paul folks, and I think you know that. That he is not going to win doesn't mean people abandon their principles, or what is right in nature. That you feel you must embrace 'something' that sounds good, when under the smallest scrutiny is abhorrent, is contemptable and worse.

There are hundreds of thousands of soldiers around the world who are now slaves to the madness, and you are not doing your part to defend or support them, who believe, they are supporting you.

What twisted mind can say that Obama's advisors blueprints for bigger wars, is somehow better is beyond my understanding.

That he is able to dance around direct answers and you swallow it, is unbelievable.

You constantly hide behind Party labels to make your case for you... since you can NOT make a good one for BO.

He's a globalist, and their first order of business is to destroy what's left of our country. You will have your way, and I suspect you will be the biggest flag waver if your guy is leading the charge.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: iconoclast (#47)

May the bird of paradise shit a crack house in your back yard.

Ever had an addict in your family?

And, please don't bring up the sorry "War on Drugs".

I,

I've seen more than I care to.

And, I didn't bring up the war on drugs... read up and follow along.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: iconoclast (#49)

Thats' quite a confession, Hon .... I don't believe it. :-)

I'm not worried about what you believe.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Peppa (#50)

!!


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Peppa (#50)

We know it’s time to time to restore our Constitution and the rule of law. This is an issue that was at the heart of Senator Dodd’s candidacy, and I share his passion for restoring the balance between the security we demand and the civil liberties that we cherish.

The American people must be able to trust that their president values principle over politics, and justice over unchecked power. I’ve been proud to stand with Senator Dodd in his fight against retroactive immunity for the telecommunications industry. Secrecy and special interests must not trump accountability. We must show our citizens - and set an example to the world - that laws cannot be ignored when it is inconvenient. Because in America - no one is above the law.

It’s time to reject torture without equivocation. It’s time to close Guantanamo and to restore habeas corpus. It’s time to give our intelligence and law enforcement agencies the tools they need to track down and take out terrorists, while ensuring that their actions are subject to vigorous oversight that protects our freedom. So let me be perfectly clear: I have taught the Constitution, I understand the Constitution, and I will obey the Constitution when I am President of the United States.

Finally, it’s time to once again inspire this nation to rally behind a common purpose - a higher purpose. Throughout his campaign, Senator Dodd spoke eloquently about the need to turn the page to a new era of public service. That is the legacy of his own family - the legacy of a father who stood up to the Nazis at Nuremberg, and a young man who enlisted in the Peace Corps after he heard President Kennedy’s call to service on a cold Inauguration Day.

From Obama's speech accepting Dodd's endorsement.

I heard him call for restoring habeas corpus in his first campaign speech in New Hampshire, after Iowa. The New Yorker says he repeatedly calls for restoring habeas corpus in his speeches, and that the line always gets big applause.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   15:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Peppa (#52)

I'm not worried about what you believe.

Fair enough.

And I won't worry about your libertine lifestyle.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: aristeides (#54) (Edited)

He supported the unconstitutional Patriot Act.

He liked to refer to himself as a Constitutional Professor, which he is not, and when caught, corrected it to lecturer.

Speeches are nice, but where is he on the floor of the Senate, speaking out about such?

Why embed his advisors with CFR members and hate mongerers? Maybe you can expand on your personal logic.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Peppa (#50)

He's a globalist, and their first order of business is to destroy what's left of our country.

Damn few politicians of any stripe aren't right now.

In the meantime I'll sleep better with one of the alliance types than the pre-emptive war types in office.

PS Obama is also not the type of globalist that considers protectionism a bad word.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: iconoclast (#55)

Fair enough.

And I won't worry about your libertine lifestyle.

My libertine tendancies and positions tell you nothing about my lifestyle. Don't trip over your assumptions.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Peppa (#50)

His advisors want bigger wars, globalism and further suspension of civil liberties. Why you refuse to acknowledge this is perplexing

Where you ever came up with this baseless smear is what's perplexing.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: iconoclast (#57)

In the meantime I'll sleep better with one of the alliance types than the pre-emptive war types in office.

You better read up on Zbig then. As a reminder, he and his son Mark are advisors to Obama. I would say that alliance is one that requires some attention.

As I mentioned the other day, Obama should run as 3rd party and declare the positions that are his own, and toss the globalists from his circle.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: iconoclast (#59)

Where you ever came up with this baseless smear is what's perplexing.

I've posted quite a bit about the Grand Chessboard by Zbig.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Peppa (#58)

My libertine tendancies and positions tell you nothing about my lifestyle.

I was just joshin you kid.

Hint ...

Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   16:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Peppa (#61)

I've posted quite a bit about the Grand Chessboard by Zbig.

And I have repeatedly pointed out to you that The Grand Chessboard, from a decade ago, no longer represents Brzezinski's thinking. The more recent The Choice: Global Domination or Global Leadership (2004) and Second Chance: Three Presidents and the Crisis of American Superpower (2007) are very different in their thinking.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   16:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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