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Title: Obama Would Consider Gore for Major Post
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VPS88O2&show_article=1
Published: Apr 2, 2008
Author: DEVLIN BARRETT
Post Date: 2008-04-02 13:57:38 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 1597
Comments: 109

WALLINGFORD, Pa. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama says as president he would consider putting Al Gore in a Cabinet-level position—or higher. A woman at a town hall asked the Illinois senator if elected president would he consider tapping the former vice president for his Cabinet, or an even higher level office, to address global warming.

"I would," Obama said. "Not only will I, but I will make a commitment that Al Gore will be at the table and play a central part in us figuring out how we solve this problem. He's somebody I talk to on a regular basis. I'm already consulting with him in terms of these issues but climate change is real."

-Snip


Poster Comment:

Armand Hammer, Occidental Petroleum, and the Gore Family

 

* Lenin presented an inscribed portrait to "Comrade Armand Hammer" in 1921, The inscription has Lenin in parentheses & Ulanioff, his birth name.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

A woman at a town hall asked the Illinois senator if elected president would he consider tapping the former vice president for his Cabinet, or an even higher level office, to address global warming.

"I would," Obama said. "Not only will I, but I will make a commitment that Al Gore will be at the table and play a central part in us figuring out how we solve this problem. He's somebody I talk to on a regular basis. I'm already consulting with him in terms of these issues but climate change is real."

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   14:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Sheesh

Freaking World Communists...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#1)

I forgot, is this a period of Global Cooling...or Global Warming?


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#1)

We agree Gore shouldn't be anywhere near government, right?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-02   14:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FOH (#3)

I forgot, is this a period of Global Cooling...or Global Warming?

I'm thinking more the End Times.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-02   14:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

From the pool of people who remain as likely government officials, Gore isn't half bad.

From a pure idealogical standpoint, no, Gore is not a good choice.

Do you think if Gore had won we would have invaded Iraq? That there would have been a 9/11? That the NeoCons and ZioNazis would be in control of our foreign and domestic policies? That our economy would be the disaster it is now?

I doubt all these things would be true. We still would have empowered Red China, the PRC still might be scanning our containers in our own ports. A company from Dubai would still be in control of our ports. I can believe that would be the same.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   14:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Gag.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   14:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#1)

We have a duty as Americans to defend our citizens' right not only to life but also to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is therefore vital in our current circumstances that immediate steps be taken to safeguard our Constitution against the present danger posed by the intrusive overreaching on the part of the Executive Branch and the President's apparent belief that he need not live under the rule of law.

I endorse the words of Bob Barr, when he said, "The President has dared the American people to do something about it. For the sake of the Constitution, I hope they will."

Al Gore "Constitution In Grave Danger" (speech of Jan. 16, 2006 in Constitution Hall).

It's not just global warming that Al Gore takes seriously, he also takes constitutional issues seriously.

(By the way, Al Gore was supposed to be introduced for that speech by Bob Barr, who shared and shares his constitutional concerns. Some suspicious "technical difficulties" prevented the transmission of Bob Barr's remarks to Constitution Hall that day.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   14:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

I'm thinking more the End Times.

Yeah.


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#8)

LOLOL


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#6)

Yeah, right.

Watch vid at #10...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#6)

From the pool of people who remain as likely government officials, Gore isn't half bad.

From a pure idealogical standpoint, no, Gore is not a good choice.

So your answer is a yes, no?

And yes, had Gore won nothing would have changed. The man is tethered to Armand Hammer for goodness sake. That alone should nullify him as a candidate except as a customer at the nearest gulag.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-02   14:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: aristeides (#8)

(By the way, Al Gore was supposed to be introduced for that speech by Bob Barr, who shared and shares his constitutional concerns. Some suspicious "technical difficulties" prevented the transmission of Bob Barr's remarks to Constitution Hall that day.)

interesting

Now that Obama has said he speaks with Gore often, I expect we'll see a lot of Gore bashing in the coming days.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   14:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#13)

I expect we'll see a lot of Gore bashing in the coming days.

I hope so. It's so easy to bash that lying World Communist it's really not even sporting...he must've had to flip a coin "Globalist Neocon or Neocommie?" at one point.


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#13)

Now that Obama has said he speaks with Gore often, I expect we'll see a lot of Gore bashing in the coming days.

Gore bashing? You act as if he deserves respect. He, his father, and the political wing of the National Party he clings to deserve disdain. And, btw, I'm thinking once upon a time, sometime before you took a political left hand turn, you had his ilk figured out accurately. Am I right, or was that a different robin?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-02   14:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

As I said in my first post, among the pool that are likely to end up with an official govt position.

I like reality, however unpleasant it may be.

If there is only 2% difference that's better than 0%. It's not like there is a good, viable alternative. Is it a gamble? Yes. But it is a CERTAINTY that McCain will destroy whatever remains of this nation once Bush/Cheney finally slither out.

We don't have time to bicker about left and right. This is about our nation's survival. Yes, Obama and Gore are left of center. Horrors, they might give you the oppty to have single-payer health care.

But more importantly, they have more respect for the Constitution than Bush, Hillary or McCain and they don't like a certain war in the ME.

That you have no respect for them is your free choice.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   14:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#13)

Like all Americans I have been wrestling with the question of what our country needs to do to defend itself from the kind of intense, focused and enabled hatred that brought about September 11th, and which at this moment must be presumed to be gathering force for yet another attack. I'm speaking today in an effort to recommend a specific course of action for our country which I believe would be preferable to the course recommended by President Bush. Specifically, I am deeply concerned that the policy we are presently following with respect to Iraq has the potential to seriously damage our ability to win the war against terrorism and to weaken our ability to lead the world in this new century.

Opening paragraph of Gore's speech opposing war with Iraq, delivered Sept. 23, 2002.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   14:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Obama Would Consider Gore for Major Post

The worst thing I've heard come out of Obama's mouth.

We've had more than enough C- intellects in positions of authority (read Bush and McCain). Gore may easily be the dumbest of the three. He is a walking manifestation of the Peter Principle ... along with being one more example of "legacy" rule in our increasingly class-divided society.

OTOH, if his body is as dense and wooden as his head, he may well be a solid prospect for a post (read fence).

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   14:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The Tree would make an excellent Post.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-02   14:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: iconoclast (#18)

Mental telepathy bump

Lod  posted on  2008-04-02   14:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Algore Jr., top tier CFR:

www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr- members.htm


"In the economic-technological field, some international cooperation has already been achieved, but further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position." --Zbigniew Brzezinski, CFR member and founding member of the Trilateral Commission, and National Security Advisor to five presidents

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities." --Zbigniew Brzezinski


Tennessee's globalist connections

The core values of the average voter in Tennessee are very conservative. This fact has produced Democrats that voted overwhelmingly for Ronald Reagan. But, out of misguided local loyalty, the conservative voters in Tennessee have also repeatedly elected homegrown globalists. Among them are prominent United States Sens. Howard Baker, Bill Frist, Lamar Alexander, and – yes – Fred Thompson.

All four of those Republican senators from Tennessee were members of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations during their tenure in the United States Senate. (And, a Democratic senator from Tennessee – Al Gore, who became vice- president – was also a CFR member.) Baker, who mentored Thompson into politics in 1972, was part of the "Panama Canal giveaway team" during the administration of President Jimmy Carter – another CFR member. (Note that the linked CNN commentary was written by Robert A. Pastor, another CFR globalist. Pastor recently wrote a column for WorldNetDaily, claiming to distance his North American Community plan from an assault upon American sovereignty.

The "lamestream" news media treats the CFR as merely some advisory think tank. But, the Council on Foreign Relations is much more than that. Going back almost a hundred years, the CFR mission is to establish a one-world government. Because of our historic role as a beacon of freedom, the United States is an obstacle to global domination. Therefore, CFR members must work – some openly, and some secretly – to steadily undermine American sovereignty. The recent news about the North American Union is only one phase of an unrelenting effort toward global government. To solidify elitist power, that effort includes a concurrent effort toward global currency. That effort toward a one-world money system is, in turn, linked to an effort to use RFID chips in commerce and marketing. Many people believe that the use of such chips is the "Mark of the Beast," as predicted in the Holy Bible. (And, the president of the company that makes the chips is another Republican CFR member, presidential candidate Tommy Thompson. (Is anyone surprised?)

[snip] Baker helped to give away the Panama Canal. Gore's committee on aviation security eschewed probable terrorist connections to the downing of TWA Flight 800. Thompson voted to expand NAFTA, and to relax limits on migrant farm workers. Frist (as majority leader) refused to push a tough border-security bill through the Senate, even though H.R. 4437 – the "Wall Bill" – had passed in the House overwhelmingly. [snip] [snip] http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55776


September 29, 2007 Surprise! CFR Behind Gore’s Global Warming Movie Scam

http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/09/29/surprise-cfr-behind-gores-global-warming- movie-scam/

Rat Says: Nothing new here for my little rats, but for those new to RatTube, global warming is a scam set up to implement a global carbon tax. Like Rockefeller needs more money, it is all about power and crushing the world’s poor and middle classes. Nothing but slavery for the masses is acceptable to those that consider themselves the Elite.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   14:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: aristeides (#17)

How is it possible that Gore and Obama both spoke against a war in Iraq in 2002? They're both liberals. They didn't really mean it. I'm sure they both have given a speech at CFR. They both are just NWO puppets, it's obvious. Not a dime's worth of difference between any of them. No point in voting for any of them. Let's just sit around and bash Obama. And then we'll bash Gore when we get tired of smearing Obama.

Meanwhile, back in at the ranch in AZ, McCain gains momentum to insure 100 years of wars in the ME.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   14:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#15) (Edited)

National *Globalist Party?

*Globalist = "Capitalist-Commie-Fascist"


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: iconoclast (#18)

Gore's speech on constitutional issues that I linked to in #8 did not strike me as the speech of a stupid man when I heard it.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   14:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#16)

Unbelievable according to everything I know and have heard about you, robin...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: iconoclast (#18)

Heretic!!


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Peppa (#21)

The Lieberals/Globalists love the Establishment...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#22)

S

U

C

K

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R

!!


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

A Commentary on the War Against Terror: Our Larger Tasks Author: Al Gore

February 12, 2002 Council on Foreign Relations

www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=4343 [snip] "As important as identifying Iraq, Iran and North Korea for what they are, we must be equally bold in identifying other evils that confront us. For there is another Axis of Evil in the world: poverty and ignorance; disease and environmental disorder; corruption and political oppression. We may well put down terror in its present manifestations. But if we do not attend to the larger fundamentals as well, then the ground is fertile and has been seeded for the next generation of those born to hate us, who will hold these things up before the world's poor and dispossessed, and say that all these things are in our image, and rekindle the war we are now hoping to snuff out. “Draining the swamp” of terrorism must of course in the first instance mean destroying the ability of terrorist networks to function. But drying it up at its source must also mean draining the aquifer of anger that underlies terrorism: anger that enflames the hearts of so many young men, and makes them willing, dedicated recruits for terror. Anger at perceived historical injustices involving a mass-memory throughout the Islamic world of past glory and more recent centuries of decline and oppression at the hands of the West. " [snip]

Bombing them into prosperity and good govenors of the earth. Presidential logic. I guess he didn't read the CFR reports on the ME before he opened his yap.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   14:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Peppa (#29)

Too easy.

I wonder why so many supposed Conservative-Constitutionists that supported Ron Paul buy into the Globalist-Commie-Fascists' schtick?

Maybe they want the Nanny State...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   14:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lodwick (#20)

Mental telepathy bump

A little spooky! ;-)

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   14:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FOH (#27)

The Lieberals/Globalists love the Establishment...

Rabid defenders of the hate machines. They know better but do it anyway.

(everybody sing!)

You got to walk, that lonesome valley,
You got to walk it by yourself
Oh, nobody else, can walk it for you,
You got to walk it by yourself.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   14:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: FOH (#30)

Maybe they want the Nanny State...

Who knows. Control over others. They're wired different.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: aristeides (#24)

Gore's speech on constitutional issues that I linked to in #8 did not strike me as the speech of a stupid man when I heard it.

Oh, I'm confident the speech writer had him by at least 50 IQ points.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: iconoclast (#34)

It says something for someone if he can choose good speech writers.

Compare Bush. Compare McCain.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   15:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Peppa (#33)

They're wired different.

I guess I am. I'm wired to want an end to the aggressive wars and violations of civil liberties of the Bush regime.

You folks seem wired to have different priorities.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-02   15:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: aristeides (#35)

It says something for someone if he can choose good speech writers.

Compare Bush. Compare McCain.

You have a point, but it's pretty faint praise.

I already did compare them in a previous post and in another context.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-02   15:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Peppa (#32)

Some 50 years of "Sex, Drugs and Rock'N'Roll" didn't seem to help the "Republic"...that's going to draw some boos and hisses I'm sure. heheh


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#36)

Sounds good, but you're a dyed in the wool Lieberal supporting the World Commies...so you don't pass even the long distance smell test.


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-02   15:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#36)

To: Peppa

They're wired different. I guess I am. I'm wired to want an end to the aggressive wars and violations of civil liberties of the Bush regime.

You folks seem wired to have different priorities.

Sorry, you support a candidate that has not voted according to your values. Period.

That you continue to stick a fork in your own eye isn't my fault, but unfortunately, becomes everyones problem. Frankly, I consider it cowardly. Maybe you just want to BELIEVE. Well believe this, the more power you give to government over you, the more they will take. And who are you to condemn us all for your weakness?

My folks? Ah, you mean freedom loving Americans? Yes, we do have different priorities than you. You need a government teat and a sick need to control everyone else.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FOH (#38) (Edited)

Some 50 years of "Sex, Drugs and Rock'N'Roll" didn't seem to help the "Republic"...that's going to draw some boos and hisses I'm sure. heheh

That the drugs are used to destroy the mind and potential is evil. Whether they are legal or illegal. However, I basically subscribe to the belief that a person has the right to do what he wants to himself, as long as he does not hurt others or nature.

I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-02   15:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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