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Title: Obama Would Consider Gore for Major Post
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VPS88O2&show_article=1
Published: Apr 2, 2008
Author: DEVLIN BARRETT
Post Date: 2008-04-02 13:57:38 by Jethro Tull
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WALLINGFORD, Pa. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama says as president he would consider putting Al Gore in a Cabinet-level position—or higher. A woman at a town hall asked the Illinois senator if elected president would he consider tapping the former vice president for his Cabinet, or an even higher level office, to address global warming. "I would," Obama said. "Not only will I, but I will make a commitment that Al Gore will be at the table and play a central part in us figuring out how we solve this problem. He's somebody I talk to on a regular basis. I'm already consulting with him in terms of these issues but climate change is real." -Snip
Poster Comment: Armand Hammer, Occidental Petroleum, and the Gore Family * Lenin presented an inscribed portrait to "Comrade Armand Hammer" in 1921, The inscription has Lenin in parentheses & Ulanioff, his birth name.
The ensuing years witnessed his closer identification with revolutionary Marxism, his many escapes from captivity, his growing intimacy with Lenin and Bukharin, his early disparagement of Leon Trotsky, and his co-option, in 1912, to the illicit Bolshevik Central Committee.
With the Revolution of 1917 and the replacement of Kerensky's weak Provisional Government by Lenin and the Bolsheviks, Stalin was appointed Commissar for Nationalities and a member of the Politburo, although his activities throughout the counter-revolution and the war with Poland were confined to organizing a Red "terror" in Tsaritsin (Stalingrad). With his appointment as General Secretary to the Central Committee in 1922, Stalin began stealthily to build up the power that would guarantee his control of the Soviet Union after Lenin's death. When Lenin died in 1924, Stalin took control. By 1928, Trotsky had been degraded and banished.
Stalin's reorganization of the Soviet's resources, with its successive Five Year Plans, suffered numerous industrial setbacks and encountered consistently stubborn resistance in agriculture, where the kulaks refused to accept the principles of collectivization. The measures taken by Stalin to discipline those who opposed his will involved the death by execution or famine of at least 10 million peasants (1932-33). The bloodbath which eliminated the Old Bolsheviks and the alleged right-wing, and the staged "engineers' trial," were followed by a drastic, purge of thousands of the Officer corps, including Marshal Tuchachevsky. Stalin believed they were all guilty of pro-German sympathies. Red Army forces and material went to the support of the Spanish Communist government in 1936, although Stalin was careful not to commit himself too deeply. After the Munich crisis Franco-British negotiations for Russian support in the event of war were protracted until the Nazi-Soviet Pact, which bought Stalin some time he thought he needed to prepare for a German invasion.
In 1941 the prosperity of the nazis' initial thrust into Russia could be accounted for in part by the disposal of the Red Army on the frontiers, ready to invade rather than repel invasion. Stalin's strategy followed the traditional Muscovite pattern of plugging gaps in the defenses with more and more bodies and trading space for time in which imposing climatic conditions could whittle away the opponents' strength. Sustained by material furnished by Britain an the United States, the Red Army responded to Stalin's call to defend not the principles of Marx and Engels, but "Mother Russia."
Quick to exploit the unwarranted Anglo-American fear that Russia might get out of the war, Stalin easily outwitted the allied leaders of the Teheran and Yalta Conferences. With the Red Army's invasion of German soil, Soviet soldiers were encouraged to penetrate far beyond the point where they had last been employed. Thus Stalin's dominance of the Potsdam Conference, followed by the premature break up of the Anglo-American forces, left Stalin with a territory enlarged by more 180,0000 square miles which, with satellites, increased the Soviet sphere of influence by more than 760,00 square miles. While Stalin consolidated his gains an "iron curtain" was dropped to cut off Soviet Russia and her satellites from the outside wor ld. At the same time, a Cold War ensued between east and west.
An entirely unscrupulous man, Stalin consistently manipulated Communist imperialism for the greater glory of Soviet Russia and the strengthening of his own person as autocrat. He died, in somewhat mysterious circumstances, in 1953.
"If Al Gore Jr. ever runs for President, he'll have to answer some embarrassing questions about the source of his family's wealth" F.R. Duplantier in America's Future
"We do have inveterate antipathy for communism -- or paranoia as I like to put it," young Gore wrote to his father. He went on to consider the policy implications of this American Cold War obsession. "My own belief is that this form of psychological ailment -- in this case a national madness -- leads the victim to actually create the thing which is feared the most. It strikes me that this is precisely what the U.S. has been doing. Creating -- and if not creating, energetically supporting -- fascist, totalitarian regimes in the name of fighting totalitarianism. Greece, South Vietnam, a good deal of Latin America. For me, the best example of all is the U.S. Army" (emphasis added) The New Yorker 11/28/94
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#42. To: Peppa (#40)
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WELL said! The self-involved elites suffer from diverse spiritual and mental issues IMO...a prevailing darkness if you will. That's fine as long as they take it somewhere else (as in out of my face) and quit using government to sanction it... "Liberty is never given, it is always taken"
You must be confusing me with someone else. As I have said repeatedly, what I want is an end to the Bush regime's wars of aggression and violations of civil liberties. What is cowardly about that? I think the cowardly people are the ones who want -- or at least are willing -- to see those atrocities continue, just so that they can feel safe.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
And how ... with head slowly shaking.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
I agree, live and let live. I'm a libertarian in many if not most ways. 'Cept that's not what they do...(live and let live)
You folks seem wired to have different priorities. Anyone who wants McCain, a continuation of the Bush Regime, would be very busy on boards bashing and smearing any opponent of McCain and his 100 years of wars in the ME.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
May the bird of paradise shit a crack house in your back yard. Ever had an addict in your family? And, please don't bring up the sorry "War on Drugs".
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
You're the one supporting McHillObama, robin. You fraud.
Thats' quite a confession, Hon .... I don't believe it. :-)
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
I think the cowardly people are the ones who want -- or at least are willing -- to see those atrocities continue, just so that they can feel safe. You want to believe that Obama is different on the war and he isn't. His advisors want bigger wars, globalism and further suspension of civil liberties. Why you refuse to acknowledge this is perplexing, if you were in control of common sense. You are a neo-con and perhaps don't realize it. Your position is that you will sacrifice everything for something you imagine is true. That you can't face it, is cowardly. No one wants the atrocities to end more than the Ron Paul folks, and I think you know that. That he is not going to win doesn't mean people abandon their principles, or what is right in nature. That you feel you must embrace 'something' that sounds good, when under the smallest scrutiny is abhorrent, is contemptable and worse. There are hundreds of thousands of soldiers around the world who are now slaves to the madness, and you are not doing your part to defend or support them, who believe, they are supporting you. What twisted mind can say that Obama's advisors blueprints for bigger wars, is somehow better is beyond my understanding. That he is able to dance around direct answers and you swallow it, is unbelievable. You constantly hide behind Party labels to make your case for you... since you can NOT make a good one for BO. He's a globalist, and their first order of business is to destroy what's left of our country. You will have your way, and I suspect you will be the biggest flag waver if your guy is leading the charge.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Ever had an addict in your family? And, please don't bring up the sorry "War on Drugs". I, I've seen more than I care to. And, I didn't bring up the war on drugs... read up and follow along.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I'm not worried about what you believe.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
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The American people must be able to trust that their president values principle over politics, and justice over unchecked power. I’ve been proud to stand with Senator Dodd in his fight against retroactive immunity for the telecommunications industry. Secrecy and special interests must not trump accountability. We must show our citizens - and set an example to the world - that laws cannot be ignored when it is inconvenient. Because in America - no one is above the law. It’s time to reject torture without equivocation. It’s time to close Guantanamo and to restore habeas corpus. It’s time to give our intelligence and law enforcement agencies the tools they need to track down and take out terrorists, while ensuring that their actions are subject to vigorous oversight that protects our freedom. So let me be perfectly clear: I have taught the Constitution, I understand the Constitution, and I will obey the Constitution when I am President of the United States. Finally, it’s time to once again inspire this nation to rally behind a common purpose - a higher purpose. Throughout his campaign, Senator Dodd spoke eloquently about the need to turn the page to a new era of public service. That is the legacy of his own family - the legacy of a father who stood up to the Nazis at Nuremberg, and a young man who enlisted in the Peace Corps after he heard President Kennedy’s call to service on a cold Inauguration Day. From Obama's speech accepting Dodd's endorsement. I heard him call for restoring habeas corpus in his first campaign speech in New Hampshire, after Iowa. The New Yorker says he repeatedly calls for restoring habeas corpus in his speeches, and that the line always gets big applause.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Fair enough. And I won't worry about your libertine lifestyle.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
He supported the unconstitutional Patriot Act. He liked to refer to himself as a Constitutional Professor, which he is not, and when caught, corrected it to lecturer. Speeches are nice, but where is he on the floor of the Senate, speaking out about such? Why embed his advisors with CFR members and hate mongerers? Maybe you can expand on your personal logic.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Damn few politicians of any stripe aren't right now. In the meantime I'll sleep better with one of the alliance types than the pre-emptive war types in office. PS Obama is also not the type of globalist that considers protectionism a bad word.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
And I won't worry about your libertine lifestyle. My libertine tendancies and positions tell you nothing about my lifestyle. Don't trip over your assumptions.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Where you ever came up with this baseless smear is what's perplexing.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
You better read up on Zbig then. As a reminder, he and his son Mark are advisors to Obama. I would say that alliance is one that requires some attention. As I mentioned the other day, Obama should run as 3rd party and declare the positions that are his own, and toss the globalists from his circle.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I've posted quite a bit about the Grand Chessboard by Zbig.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I was just joshin you kid. Hint ... Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
And I have repeatedly pointed out to you that The Grand Chessboard, from a decade ago, no longer represents Brzezinski's thinking. The more recent The Choice: Global Domination or Global Leadership (2004) and Second Chance: Three Presidents and the Crisis of American Superpower (2007) are very different in their thinking.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
It's called reading and analysis. Read who BO's advisors are. Read what their positions are. Then you will understand how Peppa came up with this conclusion. "Baseless smears"? Mischaracterization is tiresome and time wasting. Please refrain.
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
And then he would get one percent of the vote, just like every other third party candidate. Our electoral system is completely rigged against third parties. Picture this: A hurdles race with multiple tracks. Two tracks have "hurdles" that consist of wooden platforms about six inches high, all the runners in those lanes have to do is to not be so uncoordinated that they actually trip over them. The "hurdles" in the other lanes consist of brick walls about fifty feet high, soaked in a mix of crude oil, raw sewage and toxic waste. The tops of the walls are set with shards of broken glass. And there's one wall every five feet, and each one is ten feet taller than the one before it. THAT is the system we currently have that confronts third party candidates. It's a joke, a sham, there will NEVER EVER EVER be a "third party" candidate elected to the presidency. We'll grow wings and fly to the moon under our own power before that happens. The Plutocrats have rigged this system REAL good, all for them, nothing for us, and that's how it's going to stay until there's a major revolt.
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#43. To: Peppa (#40)
#44. To: aristeides (#36)
You folks seem wired to have different priorities.
#45. To: Peppa (#41)
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What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#46. To: aristeides (#36)
I'm wired to want an end to the aggressive wars and violations of civil liberties of the Bush regime.
#47. To: Peppa (#41)
That the drugs are used to destroy the mind and potential is evil. Whether they are legal or illegal. However, I basically subscribe to the belief that a person has the right to do what he want's to himself, as long as he does not hurt others or nature.
#48. To: robin (#46)
Anyone who wants McCain, a continuation of the Bush Regime, would be very busy on boards bashing and smearing any opponent of McCain and his 100 years of wars in the ME.
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#49. To: Peppa (#41)
I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues.
#50. To: aristeides (#43)
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You must be confusing me with someone else. As I have said repeatedly, what I want is an end to the Bush regime's wars of aggression and violations of civil liberties. What is cowardly about that?
#51. To: iconoclast (#47)
May the bird of paradise shit a crack house in your back yard.
#52. To: iconoclast (#49)
Thats' quite a confession, Hon .... I don't believe it. :-)
#53. To: Peppa (#50)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#54. To: Peppa (#50)
We know it’s time to time to restore our Constitution and the rule of law. This is an issue that was at the heart of Senator Dodd’s candidacy, and I share his passion for restoring the balance between the security we demand and the civil liberties that we cherish.
#55. To: Peppa (#52)
I'm not worried about what you believe.
#56. To: aristeides (#54)
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#57. To: Peppa (#50)
He's a globalist, and their first order of business is to destroy what's left of our country.
#58. To: iconoclast (#55)
Fair enough.
#59. To: Peppa (#50)
His advisors want bigger wars, globalism and further suspension of civil liberties. Why you refuse to acknowledge this is perplexing
#60. To: iconoclast (#57)
In the meantime I'll sleep better with one of the alliance types than the pre-emptive war types in office.
#61. To: iconoclast (#59)
Where you ever came up with this baseless smear is what's perplexing.
#62. To: Peppa (#58)
My libertine tendancies and positions tell you nothing about my lifestyle.
#63. To: Peppa (#61)
I've posted quite a bit about the Grand Chessboard by Zbig.
#64. To: iconoclast (#59)
Where you ever came up with this ...is what's perplexing.
#65. To: Peppa (#60)
As I mentioned the other day, Obama should run as 3rd party and declare the positions that are his own, and toss the globalists from his circle.
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#66. To: Peppa (#41)
I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues. me too
That the drugs are used to destroy the mind and potential is evil. Whether they are legal or illegal. However, I basically subscribe to the belief that a person has the right to do what he wants to himself, as long as he does not hurt others or nature.
#67. To: aristeides (#63)
And I have pointed out to you that his blueprint led to disaster and is hurting the cause of imperialism. That his plan was a bad and deadly one, and his aim is to move for a wider and bigger war. A bad plan with yet another bad plan for the cause of globalism and one world order.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#68. To: Peppa (#29)
There isn't a need to show me Peppa. Some folks I came to this forum with have become infatuated w/the political left for reasons that are beyond me. They won't communicate to you, and it's best they ignore me too. If Gore, et al, are viable political choices for them, we can save our time and energy trading posts.
#69. To: Peppa (#60)
Zbig's foreign policy philosophy is rooted in WWII and cold war western alliances. It bears little or no resemblance to the neocon, imperialistic globalism of the highjacked Republican party. It is not congruent with my own politics of populist protectionism and isolationism but it's miles closer that what your (my old) party has arrived at. In the words of RR, I didn't leave the party, it left me.
You better read up on Zbig then. As a reminder, he and his son Mark are advisors to Obama.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#70. To: Elliott Jackalope (#65)
Agreed, but you do remember the months of trying to get Ron Paul to run 3rd party to show that he rejects the evil GOP? Well, why shouldn't the same standard be applied to Obama if he were, in fact, different? It exposes the shills, liars and moles that infested this place for months. I agree with you completely though.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#71. To: Peppa (#67)
Have you read either of the books I just cited?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
#72. To: christine (#66)
Cool. Careful, you'll be accused of watching Fox News here in a bit.
me too
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#68)
Understood. I do this for the 'children'. ;)
There isn't a need to show me Peppa. Some folks I came to this forum with have become infatuated w/the political left for reasons that are beyond me. They won't communicate to you, and it's best they ignore me too. If Gore, et al, are viable political choices for them, we can save our time and energy trading posts.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#74. To: Elliott Jackalope (#65)
They didn't rig it well enough to prevent JFK from becoming president. And then he proved enough of a nuisance to them that they had him assassinated. Obama MIGHT turn out the same.
The Plutocrats have rigged this system REAL good, all for them, nothing for us, and that's how it's going to stay until there's a major revolt.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
#75. To: christine, Peppa, aristeides (#66)
me too Good heavens, ari, we're surrounded by loose women. ;-)
I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#76. To: iconoclast (#69)
It is not congruent with my own politics of populist protectionism and isolationism but it's miles closer that what your (my old) party has arrived at. In the words of RR, I didn't leave the party, it left me. Incredible. Your reading comprehension and the inability to connect the events that transpired as a result, is off the chart. What a lazy mind.
Zbig's foreign policy philosophy is rooted in WWII and cold war western alliances. It bears little or no resemblance to the neocon, imperialistic globalism of the highjacked Republican party.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#77. To: aristeides (#74)
If Obama is the antithesis of the neocons, why do you suppose they provide him with such favorable state-owned media coverage?
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
#78. To: aristeides (#71)
Have you read the Grand Chessboard yet, or still jonesing to ignore the glaring goals of Zbig and the CFR? Of course his strategy changes, to find the best path to create the least resistance to Global Corporate control. It's hideous. Have you read ANYTHING about how we got here, or are you satisfied to fill your shelves with only that which agrees with your opinion at the moment? History is not something you can choose, and if it were so, there are millions buried whose families would love to change it as well. Are you so divorced from reality that you CAN not see, or is it easier to hide your eyes?
Have you read either of the books I just cited?
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#79. To: Peppa (#76)
You've lifted my spirits today! Thanks!! Gotta run, and NOT for office...;)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#80. To: FOH (#79)
Gotta run, and NOT for office...;) I'm looking for the counselor to make his case FOR Obama. His case. Not the establishment approved message, but his own. You'd think, he'd be capable of doing so.
You've lifted my spirits today! Thanks!!
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#81. To: Peppa (#78)
I have read The Choice, a much more recent book than The Grand Chessboard. I doubt if anybody else on this thread or forum has read even that much Brzezinski. If I ever get around to reading another book by him, it will be his most recent one. Since it deals something close to the current world, it would be a more productive use of my time. I see no reason why I should waste my time reading a book he published about a decade ago, in a very different world. Brzezinski recognizes that the world has changed. Other people seem stuck in Cold War thinking.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
#82. To: angle, Peppa, buckeye, christine, JamesDeffenbach, Cynicom, JethroTull, Hayek Fan, lodwick, IndieTX, robin, iconoclast, aristeides, ALL (#77)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
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