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Title: Obama Would Consider Gore for Major Post
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VPS88O2&show_article=1
Published: Apr 2, 2008
Author: DEVLIN BARRETT
Post Date: 2008-04-02 13:57:38 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1600
Comments: 109
WALLINGFORD, Pa. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama says as president he would consider putting Al Gore in a Cabinet-level position—or higher. A woman at a town hall asked the Illinois senator if elected president would he consider tapping the former vice president for his Cabinet, or an even higher level office, to address global warming. "I would," Obama said. "Not only will I, but I will make a commitment that Al Gore will be at the table and play a central part in us figuring out how we solve this problem. He's somebody I talk to on a regular basis. I'm already consulting with him in terms of these issues but climate change is real." -Snip
Poster Comment: Armand Hammer, Occidental Petroleum, and the Gore Family * Lenin presented an inscribed portrait to "Comrade Armand Hammer" in 1921, The inscription has Lenin in parentheses & Ulanioff, his birth name.
The ensuing years witnessed his closer identification with revolutionary Marxism, his many escapes from captivity, his growing intimacy with Lenin and Bukharin, his early disparagement of Leon Trotsky, and his co-option, in 1912, to the illicit Bolshevik Central Committee.
With the Revolution of 1917 and the replacement of Kerensky's weak Provisional Government by Lenin and the Bolsheviks, Stalin was appointed Commissar for Nationalities and a member of the Politburo, although his activities throughout the counter-revolution and the war with Poland were confined to organizing a Red "terror" in Tsaritsin (Stalingrad). With his appointment as General Secretary to the Central Committee in 1922, Stalin began stealthily to build up the power that would guarantee his control of the Soviet Union after Lenin's death. When Lenin died in 1924, Stalin took control. By 1928, Trotsky had been degraded and banished.
Stalin's reorganization of the Soviet's resources, with its successive Five Year Plans, suffered numerous industrial setbacks and encountered consistently stubborn resistance in agriculture, where the kulaks refused to accept the principles of collectivization. The measures taken by Stalin to discipline those who opposed his will involved the death by execution or famine of at least 10 million peasants (1932-33). The bloodbath which eliminated the Old Bolsheviks and the alleged right-wing, and the staged "engineers' trial," were followed by a drastic, purge of thousands of the Officer corps, including Marshal Tuchachevsky. Stalin believed they were all guilty of pro-German sympathies. Red Army forces and material went to the support of the Spanish Communist government in 1936, although Stalin was careful not to commit himself too deeply. After the Munich crisis Franco-British negotiations for Russian support in the event of war were protracted until the Nazi-Soviet Pact, which bought Stalin some time he thought he needed to prepare for a German invasion.
In 1941 the prosperity of the nazis' initial thrust into Russia could be accounted for in part by the disposal of the Red Army on the frontiers, ready to invade rather than repel invasion. Stalin's strategy followed the traditional Muscovite pattern of plugging gaps in the defenses with more and more bodies and trading space for time in which imposing climatic conditions could whittle away the opponents' strength. Sustained by material furnished by Britain an the United States, the Red Army responded to Stalin's call to defend not the principles of Marx and Engels, but "Mother Russia."
Quick to exploit the unwarranted Anglo-American fear that Russia might get out of the war, Stalin easily outwitted the allied leaders of the Teheran and Yalta Conferences. With the Red Army's invasion of German soil, Soviet soldiers were encouraged to penetrate far beyond the point where they had last been employed. Thus Stalin's dominance of the Potsdam Conference, followed by the premature break up of the Anglo-American forces, left Stalin with a territory enlarged by more 180,0000 square miles which, with satellites, increased the Soviet sphere of influence by more than 760,00 square miles. While Stalin consolidated his gains an "iron curtain" was dropped to cut off Soviet Russia and her satellites from the outside wor ld. At the same time, a Cold War ensued between east and west.
An entirely unscrupulous man, Stalin consistently manipulated Communist imperialism for the greater glory of Soviet Russia and the strengthening of his own person as autocrat. He died, in somewhat mysterious circumstances, in 1953.
"If Al Gore Jr. ever runs for President, he'll have to answer some embarrassing questions about the source of his family's wealth" F.R. Duplantier in America's Future
"We do have inveterate antipathy for communism -- or paranoia as I like to put it," young Gore wrote to his father. He went on to consider the policy implications of this American Cold War obsession. "My own belief is that this form of psychological ailment -- in this case a national madness -- leads the victim to actually create the thing which is feared the most. It strikes me that this is precisely what the U.S. has been doing. Creating -- and if not creating, energetically supporting -- fascist, totalitarian regimes in the name of fighting totalitarianism. Greece, South Vietnam, a good deal of Latin America. For me, the best example of all is the U.S. Army" (emphasis added) The New Yorker 11/28/94
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#69. To: Peppa (#60)
Zbig's foreign policy philosophy is rooted in WWII and cold war western alliances. It bears little or no resemblance to the neocon, imperialistic globalism of the highjacked Republican party. It is not congruent with my own politics of populist protectionism and isolationism but it's miles closer that what your (my old) party has arrived at. In the words of RR, I didn't leave the party, it left me.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Agreed, but you do remember the months of trying to get Ron Paul to run 3rd party to show that he rejects the evil GOP? Well, why shouldn't the same standard be applied to Obama if he were, in fact, different? It exposes the shills, liars and moles that infested this place for months. I agree with you completely though.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Have you read either of the books I just cited?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Cool. Careful, you'll be accused of watching Fox News here in a bit.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Understood. I do this for the 'children'. ;)
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
They didn't rig it well enough to prevent JFK from becoming president. And then he proved enough of a nuisance to them that they had him assassinated. Obama MIGHT turn out the same.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
me too Good heavens, ari, we're surrounded by loose women. ;-)
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
It is not congruent with my own politics of populist protectionism and isolationism but it's miles closer that what your (my old) party has arrived at. In the words of RR, I didn't leave the party, it left me. Incredible. Your reading comprehension and the inability to connect the events that transpired as a result, is off the chart. What a lazy mind.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
If Obama is the antithesis of the neocons, why do you suppose they provide him with such favorable state-owned media coverage?
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
Have you read the Grand Chessboard yet, or still jonesing to ignore the glaring goals of Zbig and the CFR? Of course his strategy changes, to find the best path to create the least resistance to Global Corporate control. It's hideous. Have you read ANYTHING about how we got here, or are you satisfied to fill your shelves with only that which agrees with your opinion at the moment? History is not something you can choose, and if it were so, there are millions buried whose families would love to change it as well. Are you so divorced from reality that you CAN not see, or is it easier to hide your eyes?
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
You've lifted my spirits today! Thanks!! Gotta run, and NOT for office...;)
Gotta run, and NOT for office...;) I'm looking for the counselor to make his case FOR Obama. His case. Not the establishment approved message, but his own. You'd think, he'd be capable of doing so.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I have read The Choice, a much more recent book than The Grand Chessboard. I doubt if anybody else on this thread or forum has read even that much Brzezinski. If I ever get around to reading another book by him, it will be his most recent one. Since it deals something close to the current world, it would be a more productive use of my time. I see no reason why I should waste my time reading a book he published about a decade ago, in a very different world. Brzezinski recognizes that the world has changed. Other people seem stuck in Cold War thinking.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
THAT is the system we currently have that confronts third party candidates. It's a joke, a sham, there will NEVER EVER EVER be a "third party" candidate elected to the presidency. We'll grow wings and fly to the moon under our own power before that happens. Sad but true. And, the voting/elections rules are laid down at the state level. It would take a a constitutional amendment (maybe even a constitutional convention, and God knows we don't that) to change things. The Plutocrats have rigged this system REAL good, all for them, nothing for us, and that's how it's going to stay until there's a major revolt. Both "parties" bear the shame. Red states are no different that blue in this regard.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Good luck with that! Later...
If you deny history, you repeat it, and it appears you are happy to embrace it under the perversion of our language.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
He is loathe to respond to a direct question, but feels entitled to demand it from others. A case of faulty wiring.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Yes, and do you remember who he excludes?
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
who is this speaking? excellent information regarding the bloodlines.
I take it you have not read a single book by Brzezinski, and yet you feel able to demand that I read a book about a world very different from the current one.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I have put FOH on Bozo, because he confessed he was only here to mock and ridicule. I will not answer a question from him, whether somebody relays it or not.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You'd be wrong, and still try to dance your way around history. We are different world, by whose hand? Do you understand how we got here, or is here enough and trusting the same evil to set forth the next blueprint? It really doesn't appear that you've read his last book either. Zbig doesn't write in code, he makes the goals quite clear. But, considering that history is not your concern, could you have him rewrite the laws of gravity, cause and effect, and reverse the rotation of the Earth?
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
To each their own.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
What a lazy mind. Do you never tire of substituting ad hominem attacks for fact based rebuttal? What are the "events" to which you refer? Cite/source them and we will stand or fall on our responses to them.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
You must have been a real little teaser in your time. What is your reason for not revealing this nugget, assuming you have at least a factoid.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
What is your reason for nut not revealing this nugget, assuming you have at least a factoid. Nope, always a tell it like it is sort. You could always look it up for yourself. You seem capable. :)
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
What are the "events" to which you refer? Cite/source them and we will stand or fall on our responses to them. Being a yipping poodle suits you. Oops... there I go again.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I did so quite a while back. He's reappeared as of late.
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
I did so quite a while back. He's reappeared as of late. I have never put anyone on bozo. Not even Ari... I have been called vulgar names, insulted and zapped but bozoing is not the way to go, never has been. Just because you and Ari never agree with anything I have to say does not mean we cant be friends, even if the two of you are wrong most of the time. hehehehehe
From your arguments, I can see how the GOP fooled you into voting for Bush - twice. Hint: Once an organization like the Republican Party makes an utter fool of you that way, don't go around telling people like me what an idiot you were.
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I did so quite a while back. He's reappeared as of late. You really don't have to put him on bozo, if you question him about his prior rabid support of Bush, he puts you on bozo to end the conversation. That's how I got rid of the obnoxious moron.
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Thanks for the advice, the little creep accused me of being a CFR member just for asking that we limit attacks to candidates rather than each other.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
Sez you. Freedom of association. When you bug me too much, you've been on as well, love.
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
Now my feelings are broken.
Are you referring to your personal qualities or your unsubstantiated charges. It is customary on forums I've been on to have the person who makes charge back them up with source(s). Those that don't are ... well let's just say they lose all credibility
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Didn't you see the love part?
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
Yes but I am a very sensitive person.
You got to walk, "The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Yes, well, toughen up. Perhaps I put you on filter for your own protection.
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
You better read up on Zbig then. As a reminder, he and his son Mark are advisors to Obama.
#70. To: Elliott Jackalope (#65)
#71. To: Peppa (#67)
#72. To: christine (#66)
me too
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#68)
There isn't a need to show me Peppa. Some folks I came to this forum with have become infatuated w/the political left for reasons that are beyond me. They won't communicate to you, and it's best they ignore me too. If Gore, et al, are viable political choices for them, we can save our time and energy trading posts.
#74. To: Elliott Jackalope (#65)
The Plutocrats have rigged this system REAL good, all for them, nothing for us, and that's how it's going to stay until there's a major revolt.
#75. To: christine, Peppa, aristeides (#66)
I guess I'm somewhere in the Libertine corner on such issues.
#76. To: iconoclast (#69)
Zbig's foreign policy philosophy is rooted in WWII and cold war western alliances. It bears little or no resemblance to the neocon, imperialistic globalism of the highjacked Republican party.
#77. To: aristeides (#74)
#78. To: aristeides (#71)
Have you read either of the books I just cited?
#79. To: Peppa (#76)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#80. To: FOH (#79)
You've lifted my spirits today! Thanks!!
#81. To: Peppa (#78)
#82. To: angle, Peppa, buckeye, christine, JamesDeffenbach, Cynicom, JethroTull, Hayek Fan, lodwick, IndieTX, robin, iconoclast, aristeides, ALL (#77)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#83. To: aristeides (#81)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#84. To: Elliott Jackalope (#65)
#85. To: Peppa (#80)
I'm looking for the counselor to make his case FOR Obama. His case. Not the establishment approved message, but his own.
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#86. To: aristeides (#81)
I see no reason why I should waste my time reading a book he published about a decade ago, in a very different world.
#87. To: FOH (#85)
I'm looking for the counselor to make his case FOR Obama. His case. Not the establishment approved message, but his own. Good luck with that! Later...
#88. To: aristeides (#54)
I heard him call for restoring habeas corpus in his first campaign speech in New Hampshire, after Iowa. The New Yorker says he repeatedly calls for restoring habeas corpus in his speeches, and that the line always gets big applause.
#89. To: FOH (#82)
#90. To: Peppa (#86)
#91. To: Peppa, FOH (#87)
#92. To: aristeides (#90)
I take it you have not read a single book by Brzezinski, and yet you feel able to demand that I read a book about a world very different from the current one.
#93. To: aristeides (#91)
I have put FOH on Bozo, because he confessed he was only here to mock and ridicule. I will not answer a question from him, whether somebody relays it or not.
#94. To: Peppa (#76)
Your reading comprehension and the inability to connect the events that transpired as a result, is off the chart.
#95. To: Peppa (#88)
(Edited)
Yes, and do you remember who he excludes?
#96. To: iconoclast (#95)
You must have been a real little teaser in your time.
#97. To: iconoclast (#94)
Do you never tire of substituting ad hominem attacks for fact based rebuttal?
#98. To: aristeides (#91)
I have put FOH on Bozo
#99. To: angle, aristedes (#98)
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I have put FOH on Bozo
#100. To: FOH (#83)
#101. To: angle (#98)
I have put FOH on Bozo
#102. To: ... (#101)
You really don't have to put him on bozo, if you question him about his prior rabid support of Bush, he puts you on bozo to end the conversation.
#103. To: Cynicom (#99)
bozoing is not the way to go, never has been.
#104. To: angle (#103)
#105. To: Peppa (#96)
You could always look it up for yourself. You seem capable.
#106. To: Cynicom (#104)
Now my feelings are broken.
#107. To: angle (#106)
#108. To: iconoclast (#105)
That lonesome valley,
You got to walk it by yourself,
Oh, nobody else, can walk it for you,
You got to walk, it by yourself.
#109. To: Cynicom (#107)
Yes but I am a very sensitive person.
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