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Title: Stay-the-Course Plus; Obama, Romney and Foreign Engagement on Steroids
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Published: Jun 4, 2007
Author: Fred Hiatt
Post Date: 2008-04-02 20:09:07 by Jethro Tull
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Stay-the-Course Plus; Obama, Romney and Foreign Engagement on Steroids

From:
The Washington Post
Date:
June 4, 2007
Author:
Fred Hiatt
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You might expect the candidates in this presidential election to want to lead the nation in radically new foreign policy directions. The incumbent, after all, is widely perceived to have driven the country off a cliff. You might expect a retreat to humility and pragmatism after George Bush's wildly ambitious, and thus far stymied, freedom agenda.

You might also think, given the bitter partisan divisions in Washington, that the two parties would offer programs differing radically from each other. And you might figure that, if anyone is positioned to strike out in such new directions, it would be Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney, neither of whom is burdened by much foreign policy history on the national stage.

Now those two candidates have laid out their foreign policy visions in parallel articles, released last week prior to publication in the July/August issue of Foreign Affairs. And after you cut through some of their campaign rhetoric, here's what you find:

(1) The two candidates' programs are strikingly similar to each other.

(2) Both are strikingly similar to Bush administration policy.

(3) And both, far from retreating to isolationism in the face of Iraq and other challenges, set forth their own wildly ambitious calls for American leadership and the promotion of American values. "Boldness" is an operative word for both of them.

Obama begins: "After Iraq, we may be tempted to turn inward. That would be a mistake. The American moment is not over, but it must be seized anew."

Romney writes: "In the aftermath of World War II and with the coming of the Cold War, members of the 'greatest generation' united America and the free world around shared values and actions that changed history. . . . Our times call for equally bold leadership."

The two differ in some respects, of course. Romney puts more emphasis on combating radical Islam and less on promoting freedom. Obama dwells more on Bush's failures and the value of diplomacy and endorses a "phased withdrawal" of U.S. troops from Iraq. But even there, the differences are not as stark as the candidates would like them to appear. Obama would maintain in Iraq enough troops "to protect American personnel and facilities, continue training Iraqi security forces, and root out al Qaeda."

And the similarities dwarf the differences. Both want bigger, not smaller, armed forces: Obama calls for an additional 92,000 ground troops, Romney for 100,000.

Obama calls for a doubling of foreign aid; Romney wants a Marshall Plan-like "Partnership for Prosperity and Progress" that would support schools, microcredit, the rule of law, human rights, health care and the free market in Islamic states.

Romney says that "the jihadist threat is the defining challenge of our generation," as real as the threat that was posed by Nazi Germany and Stalin's Soviet Union, and he promises an appropriately sized response. Obama, albeit using slightly different terms, agrees: "To defeat al Qaeda, I will build a twenty-first-century military and twenty-first-century partnerships as strong as the anticommunist alliance that won the Cold War to stay on the offense everywhere from Djibouti to Kandahar."

Both want to revamp domestic bureaucracies, intelligence agencies and institutions far beyond post-Sept. 11 reforms. Romney would pool the civilian agencies of the government, assign to each region of the world a civilian leader equivalent to the powerful regional military commander and make him or her responsible for promoting U.S. interests and "building the foundations of freedom, democracy, security and peace."

Strikingly, both want to reinvigorate existing multilateral alliances and to create new ones. Both point to flaws in the United Nations but say the United States should work to cure them rather than pull out. Both want renewed attention to securing loose nukes around the world.

Each of their calls for change carries criticism of the Bush administration, implicit in Romney's case, explicit -- and eloquent -- in Obama's. The United States cannot promote its values abroad unless it lives by them at home, Obama says, pledging an end to secret prisons and other abuse of detainees. A president cannot sell an active foreign policy, he says, unless he "can restore the American people's trust" at home.

But in both cases, the criticism is not that Bush took on too much but that he accomplished too little. "We are a unique nation, and there is no substitute for our leadership," says Romney. Agrees Obama: "We can be this America again. . . . [A]n America that battles immediate evils, promotes an ultimate good, and leads the world once more."

If Iraq-weary voters are looking for someone who will call on America to "come home," they won't find that candidate here.

fredhiatt@washpost.com


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#9. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Agrees Obama: "We can be this America again. . . . [A]n America that battles immediate evils, promotes an ultimate good, and leads the world once more."

Can we just rename the Military to the Worker's & Peasant's Army, establish an American Comintern, and get it over with?

"We've come to liberate the crap out of you, comrade! We don't care if you want it or not."

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-04-02   20:41:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pissed Off Janitor, Cynicon, angle, all (#9)

[A]n America that battles immediate evils, promotes an ultimate good - BH Obama

Does anyone know what Obama means by this swill?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-02   20:48:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

Does anyone know what Obama means by this swill?

What anyone knows that pays attention is that Obama wishes to pick up the attempt to bring about a rapprochement between the Jews and Palestinians ... the policy that characterized U.S. ME foreign policy for 30-40 years and which the Bush administration junked junked on day-1 in favor a bellicose policy of making war on every ME nation that Israel perceives as being an enemy.

That's why he is neocon public enemy numero uno.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-03   8:43:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: iconoclast (#27)

What anyone knows that pays attention is that Obama wishes to pick up the attempt to bring about a rapprochement between the Jews and Palestinians

Ah......and why would Obama think this position is reasonable, when the Israelis themselves don't want peace?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-03   8:51:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#29) (Edited)

Ah......and why would Obama think this position is reasonable, when the Israelis themselves don't want peace?

It beats the hell out of the Bush policy.

And working to keep a lid on Israeli/Palestinian conflict was our policy for decades .... up till Bush's 10th day in office when he junked it and began war plans for Iraq. How did that little U-turn, cakewalk work out for y'all?

Secy of Treasury Paul O'Neill revealed all this in his book The Price of Loyalty. A price he wasn't willing to pay as he left the administration about two years in. Up till that time he and Greenspan also attempted to fight Bush on his guns-and-butter economics to no avail. Bush listened to no one except Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove and coterie of kiss-up, mid-level yes-men and neocons. Yes, Rove was actually a policy adviser.

Now you guys want chapter three of an administration fronted by a another headstrong, C-, war monger.

Well, that ought to place you in perfect position for another 4-8 years of pissing and moaning.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-03   16:58:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: iconoclast (#34)

Now you guys want chapter three of an administration fronted by a another headstrong, C-, war monger.

That's what I don't understand, in all the glee to bash Obama, who says he'll restore habeas corpus and has an actual date for leaving Iraq. Rather than support him they deride and ridicule him as a liberal/socialist/etc.

They would rather see us totally destroyed than become socialist, a place we could still return from. And Obama is not liked by the Zionists. In fact, some of the more rabid criticism of Obama is probably from Zionist paid shills.

robin  posted on  2008-04-03   19:11:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#37)

and has an actual date for leaving Iraq.

When is that?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-03   22:46:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#40. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

from 2007:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...1/30/AR2007013001586.html

Obama's legislation, offered on the Senate floor last night, would remove all combat brigades from Iraq by March 31, 2008.

from 2008:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...n-divide-on-_n_88734.html

A change in Feingold's bill -- the removal of an end date for troop redeployment in an effort to win wider support -- persuaded Obama to not co-sponsor the measure. "Senator Obama has long said that he would only support Iraq legislation that has an end date for the removal of troops," an Obama aide told the Huffington Post. As for whether the Senator would ultimately support the bill, the aide said, "it will depend on the final version."

www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/bl...year=2008&month=03&day=07

Obama himself responded from Wyoming: "I will bring this war to an end in 2009," he said. "Don't be confused."

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