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Title: Candidate Clinton to Richardson: 'Barack Obama Can't Win'
Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com
URL Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/candidate-clint.html
Published: Apr 2, 2008
Author: http://blogs.abcnews.com
Post Date: 2008-04-02 22:17:58 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 267
Comments: 17

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former President Bill Clinton are making very direct arguments to Democratic superdelegates, starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."

Richardson, who served in President Clinton's cabinet, disagreed.

At a rally in Oregon, standing next to Obama, Richardson insisted, "My great affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver." But he added, "It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting among ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against John McCain in the fall."

WATCH GEORGE'S FULL WORLD NEWS REPORT BY CLICKING HERE.

A report in the San Francisco Chronicle detailed another explosive exchange in which the former president angrily objected to Richardson's endorsement.

"Five times to my face [Richardson] said that he would never do that," Clinton said, according to the Chronicle -- before, the newspaper reports, he "went on a tirade that ran from the media's unfair treatment of Hillary to questions about the fairness of the votes in state caucuses that voted for Obama. It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent and people were telling him to drop out."

Another, neutral superdelegate who was in the room for that meeting called the Chronicle's take "a bit exaggerated." But there is no question the Clintons are passionately arguing their case against Obama in what is fast becoming an intense race not just for the votes of the public but of the Democratic elite known as superdelegates.

For all the latest from the campaign trail, read The Note every day exclusively on ABCNews.com.

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#1. To: Cynicom (#0)

ping

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   22:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Reality and hardball politics.

Pelosi did not change her mind about super delegates without an attitude adjustment.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-02   22:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#0)

The violence of Bill Clinton, the first black president, against Obama is another sad reminder of black-on-black crime..


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-02   22:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MUDDOG (#3)

The violence of Bill Clinton,

If Obama wins, McKooK wins.

If Clinton/Obama win, they win. McKooK loses. Becomes hired gun for Clinton.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-02   22:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: MUDDOG (#3)

lol

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-02   22:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#0)

Sen. Clinton ... told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."

When running for senator in NY, Hillary discovered she was part Jewish. This was just the chutzpah coming out.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-02   22:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu_chan (#6)

Obama the candidate, McKooK is president.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-02   22:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#0)

Hell hath no fury like a Clinton scorned....

"If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution secession is not rebellion." ---Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court delivered his opinion on charging captured Confederate officers with treason

X-15  posted on  2008-04-02   23:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7)

Obama the candidate, McKooK is president.

You are free to believe that and prepare for President McBush.

Hillary is the only candidate who mobilize the Republican base and elect McBush. Fortunately, she has very little chance to get the nomination.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-02   23:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: MUDDOG (#3)

The violence of Bill Clinton, the first black president, against Obama is another sad reminder of black-on-black crime..

haha...good one, MUDDOG.

christine  posted on  2008-04-02   23:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu_chan (#9)

You are free to believe that and prepare for President McBush.

Hillary is the only candidate who mobilize the Republican base and elect McBush. Fortunately, she has very little chance to get the nomination.

Perhaps I do not understand your reply?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-03   4:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Perhaps I do not understand your reply?

Perhaps you choose not to understand.

Hillary is the most polarizing figure around. People who do not like McCain would come out to vote against Hillary. Her attacks on Obama have driven her own negatives up. She is now polling not much better than George W. Bush.

She has little chance to win the nomination because her campaign is cash-strapped. She has relatively few donors and most her available funds can only be spent in the general election. To catch up in popular vote or elected delegate count she requires victories by a 20-30% margin. Her margin in PA has shrunk to single digit, and she trails nationally by about 10%. In TV ads, Obama is outspending her 5-1 in PA, and 100-0 elsewhere. With three weeks to go before PA, she has unpaid bills and mounting debt, and her campaign is on life support.

Obama does not share the same high negatives as Clinton. He could defeat McCain. But if you choose to believe McCain will enjoy certain victory over Obama, then it would appear you should prepare for President McCain as Obama appears to be winning the Democratic nomination.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-03   9:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu_chan (#12)

Perhaps you choose not to understand.

A few weeks ago Gov. Rendell of Pa. made a very forthright statement.

For this he was roundly criticized.

It was his opinion that white voters would not elect Obama president.

My own opinion is that none of the three are qualified to be president, not even the lesser of three evils, whomever that might be. They all belong to the same system, three peas in a pod.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-03   9:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#0)

This is one election cycle in which a credible Third Party (with massive bodyguards, obviously) candidate COULD HAVE beaten any of these three remaining suits.

As this is not going to happen, I give the nod to McSame. He will be known either as a modern-day Hoover or Hitler, but the outcome will be doom for the rest of us, regardless of which persona he channels.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-03   9:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Sam Houston (#14)

This is one election cycle in which a credible Third Party (with massive bodyguards, obviously) candidate COULD HAVE beaten any of these three remaining suits.

that was my feeling too. Ron Paul said the same in his interview recently with John Stadtmiller, but he claimed it would require someone with deep deep pockets like Perot. i think it's possible that had Ron Paul gone for it, he could have raised the money needed. it dried up when he quit.

christine  posted on  2008-04-03   9:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

No one that plays for real likes a quitter.

Turns out RP wasn't even really a starter, as he was a 'reluctant' candidate...Republican Congressman first, last and forevermore...


What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

FOH  posted on  2008-04-03   10:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#0)

Bubba Clinton bump...

:-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-06-03   2:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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