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Title: The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
Source: Truth Be Known
URL Source: http://truthbeknown.com/origins.htm
Published: Apr 4, 2008
Author: Acharya
Post Date: 2008-04-04 04:45:14 by Zoroaster
Keywords: None
Views: 839
Comments: 48

The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ Part 1 by Acharya S

Was Jesus a man, myth or God? The answers may surprise you.

Introduction Around the world over the centuries, much has been written about religion, its meaning, its relevance and contribution to humanity. In the West particularly, sizable tomes have been composed speculating upon the nature and historical background of the main character of Western religions, Jesus Christ. Many have tried to dig into the precious few clues as to Jesus's identity and come up with a biographical sketch that either bolsters faith or reveals a more human side of this godman to which we can all relate. Obviously, considering the time and energy spent on them, the subjects of Christianity and its legendary founder are very important to the Western mind and culture.

The Controversy Despite all of this literature continuously being cranked out and the significance of the issue, in the public at large there is a serious lack of formal and broad education regarding religion and mythology, and most individuals are highly uninformed in this area. Concerning the issue of Christianity, for example, the majority of people are taught in most schools and churches that Jesus Christ was an actual historical figure and that the only controversy regarding him is that some people accept him as the Son of God and the Messiah, while others do not. However, whereas this is the raging debate most evident in this field today, it is not the most important. Shocking as it may seem to the general populace, the most enduring and profound controversy in this subject is whether or not a person named Jesus Christ ever really existed.

Although this debate may not be evident from publications readily found in popular bookstores1, when one examines this issue closely, one will find a tremendous volume of literature that demonstrates, logically and intelligently, time and again that Jesus Christ is a mythological character along the same lines as the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian or other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths rather than historical figures2. Delving deeply into this large body of work, one uncovers evidence that the Jesus character is based upon much older myths and heroes from around the globe. One discovers that this story is not, therefore, a historical representation of a Jewish rebel carpenter who had physical incarnation in the Levant 2,000 years ago. In other words, it has been demonstrated continually for centuries that this character, Jesus Christ, was invented and did not depict a real person who was either the "son of God" or was "evemeristically" made into a superhuman by enthusiastic followers3.

History and Positions of the Debate This controversy has existed from the very beginning, and the writings of the "Church Fathers" themselves reveal that they were constantly forced by the pagan intelligentsia to defend what the non-Christians and other Christians ("heretics")4 alike saw as a preposterous and fabricated yarn with absolutely no evidence of it ever having taken place in history. As Rev. Robert Taylor says, "And from the apostolic age downwards, in a never interrupted succession, but never so strongly and emphatically as in the most primitive times, was the existence of Christ as a man most strenuously denied."5 Emperor Julian, who, coming after the reign of the fanatical and murderous "good Christian" Constantine, returned rights to pagan worshippers, stated, "If anyone should wish to know the truth with respect to you Christians, he will find your impiety to be made up partly of the Jewish audacity, and partly of the indifference and confusion of the Gentiles, and that you have put together not the best, but the worst characteristics of them both."6 According to these learned dissenters, the New Testament could rightly be called, "Gospel Fictions."7

A century ago, mythicist Albert Churchward said, "The canonical gospels can be shown to be a collection of sayings from the Egyptian Mythos and Eschatology."8 In Forgery in Christianity, Joseph Wheless states, "The gospels are all priestly forgeries over a century after their pretended dates."9 Those who concocted some of the hundreds of "alternative" gospels and epistles that were being kicked about during the first several centuries C.E. have even admitted that they had forged the documents.10 Forgery during the first centuries of the Church's existence was admittedly rampant, so common in fact that a new phrase was coined to describe it: "pious fraud."11 Such prevarication is confessed to repeatedly in the Catholic Encyclopedia.12 Some of the "great" church fathers, such as Eusebius13, were determined by their own peers to be unbelievable liars who regularly wrote their own fictions of what "the Lord" said and did during "his" alleged sojourn upon the earth.14

The Proof The assertion that Jesus Christ is a myth can be proved not only through the works of dissenters and "pagans" who knew the truth - and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and "Church Fathers" fooling the masses with their fictions - but also through the very statements of the Christians themselves, who continuously disclose that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. In fact, Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"15 (Emphasis added.) As Wheless says, "The proofs of my indictment are marvellously easy."

The Gnostics From their own admissions, the early Christians were incessantly under criticism by scholars of great repute who were impugned as "heathens" by their Christian adversaries. This group included many Gnostics, who strenuously objected to the carnalization of their deity, as the Christians can be shown to have taken many of the characteristics of their god and godman from the Gnostics, meaning "Ones who know," a loose designation applied to members of a variety of esoteric schools and brotherhoods. The refutations of the Christians against the Gnostics reveal that the Christian godman was an insult to the Gnostics, who held that their god could never take human form.16

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For more information, please see: The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled.

The Historical Jesus? The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Untangled Pliny, Tacitus and Suetonius: No Proof of Jesus Moon Mary: Queen of Heaven Born of a Virgin on December 25th Easter: Christian or Pagan? Astrotheology of the Ancients Krishna Born of a Virgin? Krishna Crucified? Osiris The Lord: Out of Egypt Life of Buddha Introduction to Suns of God "Suns of God" Review Dr. Robert Price's "Suns of God" Review Jesus in India? Beddru is Beddou is Buddha Mithra/Mithras: The Pagan Christ The Myth of Noah's Ark Jesus God Man or Myth Debunking the Christ Myth Origins of Christianity, Part 1 Origins of Christianity, Part 2 Origins of Christianity, Part 3 Origins of Christianity, Part 4 Origins of Christianity, Part 5 Origins of Christianity, Part 6 The Christ Conspiracy Articles

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#5. To: Zoroaster (#0)

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-04   8:40:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Old Friend (#5)

They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Glass houses. To disown these works by self-described Christians is to cast them out like stones upon the heads of the rest of humanity.

nobody  posted on  2008-04-04   13:04:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nobody (#7)

Just because someone says they are a christian doesn't make it so. Wide is the way which leads to death and narrow is the way to life.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-04   19:45:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Old Friend (#8) (Edited)

Just because someone says they are a christian doesn't make it so.

Similarly, just because it's in the Bible doesn't make it true.

Actually, if it's in the Bible, it's probably false.

Indeed, the overwhelmingly fraudulent intrinsic quality of the Bible itself is what foments fraud and attracts more frauds to it. The Bible is a complete fraud/victim magnet, it's a proven conspiracy, a coddled delusion. The Bible is a curse on those who won't join the conspiracy, and so you want to suggest that not following it means death.

It's all just too disgusting, as its manifest fraudulence makes it a curse on any truths it incorporates.

nobody  posted on  2008-04-04   19:56:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nobody (#10)

Similarly, just because it's in the Bible doesn't make it true.

What you said is not true. The Bible is totally accurate. That is why it has withstood the test of time. It has worn out many anvils.

If I may ask. What do you perceive to be in the Bible that is not true?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-04   21:08:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Old Friend (#13)

If I may ask. What do you perceive to be in the Bible that is not true?

Here's a link you may find interesting. The title of the page is "Fraud in the Bible: Or, it sucks that you don't know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic."

www.hiddenmysteries.or g/r...stianity/piousfraud.shtml

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-04-06   0:54:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Elliott Jackalope (#28)

I am not going to go sort your laundry. But if you have a comment from your little list. Please post it here. I might even have the wisdom to set you straight on your confusion. But maybe not. Give it a toss.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-06   9:42:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Old Friend (#31)

The missing question in this debate is which Bible are we talking about? The most often quoted and pushed by the Christian right is the "Scofield Reference Bible "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible

Understanding this helps explain the various myths such as Jews are Gods chosen people and groups like Christians United For Israel and John Hagee Pat Robertson etc

As stated before Jefferson wrote "The Life and Morals of Jesus" he like many questioned faith and to better understand the moral teachings of Jesus he paid no attention to the birth of Jesus or the book of Revelations .....smart man!

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   9:58:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robnoel (#32)

I like the King James version. I don't like the NIV because it has flaws in it. The Scofield is also not very good in my opinion.

But the Bible makes it clear that the Jews are the chosen people of God. That just means that he chose them to reveal his word to. Then he said that the whole world would be blessed because of them. Saying that the Jews are not the chosen people is not what Gods word teaches. Jesus even said that he came first for the Jew then the Gentile.

Nice to meet you Rob.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-06   13:36:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Old Friend (#33)

God did not write the Bible, Jews did. It was written by Jews, for Jews.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-04-06   13:47:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Zoroaster (#34)

God did not write the Bible, Jews did. It was written by Jews, for Jews.

So moses and Abraham were Jews? What about Jesus was he one too?

Physically yes men did write it. But the Bible claims they were inspired by God. I believe the Bible is correct in its claim. Man couldn't have written a perfect book like the Bible. You of course are free to disagree with me on that point.

But one thing I find interesting is that the Bible has withstood the test of time and has spread over all the earth. On the other hand zoroasterism is obsucre and virtually unknown and has not spread over the earth.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-06   19:13:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Old Friend, Zoroaster (#38)

On the other hand zoroasterism is obsucre and virtually unknown and has not spread over the earth.

No.

Zoroaster was subsumed into the Persian Shia Islamic religious structure when the Arab conquests of the eighth century dominated Persia.

The arabs converted the Persians at sword point and the Persians developed their Shia form of Islam by putting window dressing on their beloved Zoroaster beliefs.

So the ancient religion still exists, the name had to be changed to exist under the Sunni occupation of Persia.

The Arabs, generally speaking, hold the Shias in contempt both for their own racism and because they realize the Shias practice a form of Islam that is a bit of a sham, and is really much of the ancient religion they wanted to wipe out.

In short Shias are apostates in the view of the Islam orthodoxy.

The Sunni Arabs maintained a economic domination the relegated the Shia to a inferior social and economic status that persists to this day where ever the two sects coexist.

You are of course correct in saying that it did not spread over the earth, and really is in stagnation as, AFAIK, Shia Islam does not do much to convert others.

I know, picky, picky.

tom007  posted on  2008-04-06   20:41:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: tom007 (#42)

Thanks for the insight.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-06 20:47:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: tom007 (#42)

Good info about Zoroasterism:

I'm a Celt, not Persian; I picked up the user name Zoroaster because I liked Nietzsche's work "Thus Spoke Zarathustra." Although I've done research on Zoroaster, it never occurred to me that the Sha of Islam was based on Zoroastrianism. It fits in with what I've read. BTW, there may have been two Zoroasters, the first appearing about 1,500 BC, the second around 500 BC.

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