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Title: The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
Source: Truth Be Known
URL Source: http://truthbeknown.com/origins.htm
Published: Apr 4, 2008
Author: Acharya
Post Date: 2008-04-04 04:45:14 by Zoroaster
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Comments: 48

The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ Part 1 by Acharya S

Was Jesus a man, myth or God? The answers may surprise you.

Introduction Around the world over the centuries, much has been written about religion, its meaning, its relevance and contribution to humanity. In the West particularly, sizable tomes have been composed speculating upon the nature and historical background of the main character of Western religions, Jesus Christ. Many have tried to dig into the precious few clues as to Jesus's identity and come up with a biographical sketch that either bolsters faith or reveals a more human side of this godman to which we can all relate. Obviously, considering the time and energy spent on them, the subjects of Christianity and its legendary founder are very important to the Western mind and culture.

The Controversy Despite all of this literature continuously being cranked out and the significance of the issue, in the public at large there is a serious lack of formal and broad education regarding religion and mythology, and most individuals are highly uninformed in this area. Concerning the issue of Christianity, for example, the majority of people are taught in most schools and churches that Jesus Christ was an actual historical figure and that the only controversy regarding him is that some people accept him as the Son of God and the Messiah, while others do not. However, whereas this is the raging debate most evident in this field today, it is not the most important. Shocking as it may seem to the general populace, the most enduring and profound controversy in this subject is whether or not a person named Jesus Christ ever really existed.

Although this debate may not be evident from publications readily found in popular bookstores1, when one examines this issue closely, one will find a tremendous volume of literature that demonstrates, logically and intelligently, time and again that Jesus Christ is a mythological character along the same lines as the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian or other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths rather than historical figures2. Delving deeply into this large body of work, one uncovers evidence that the Jesus character is based upon much older myths and heroes from around the globe. One discovers that this story is not, therefore, a historical representation of a Jewish rebel carpenter who had physical incarnation in the Levant 2,000 years ago. In other words, it has been demonstrated continually for centuries that this character, Jesus Christ, was invented and did not depict a real person who was either the "son of God" or was "evemeristically" made into a superhuman by enthusiastic followers3.

History and Positions of the Debate This controversy has existed from the very beginning, and the writings of the "Church Fathers" themselves reveal that they were constantly forced by the pagan intelligentsia to defend what the non-Christians and other Christians ("heretics")4 alike saw as a preposterous and fabricated yarn with absolutely no evidence of it ever having taken place in history. As Rev. Robert Taylor says, "And from the apostolic age downwards, in a never interrupted succession, but never so strongly and emphatically as in the most primitive times, was the existence of Christ as a man most strenuously denied."5 Emperor Julian, who, coming after the reign of the fanatical and murderous "good Christian" Constantine, returned rights to pagan worshippers, stated, "If anyone should wish to know the truth with respect to you Christians, he will find your impiety to be made up partly of the Jewish audacity, and partly of the indifference and confusion of the Gentiles, and that you have put together not the best, but the worst characteristics of them both."6 According to these learned dissenters, the New Testament could rightly be called, "Gospel Fictions."7

A century ago, mythicist Albert Churchward said, "The canonical gospels can be shown to be a collection of sayings from the Egyptian Mythos and Eschatology."8 In Forgery in Christianity, Joseph Wheless states, "The gospels are all priestly forgeries over a century after their pretended dates."9 Those who concocted some of the hundreds of "alternative" gospels and epistles that were being kicked about during the first several centuries C.E. have even admitted that they had forged the documents.10 Forgery during the first centuries of the Church's existence was admittedly rampant, so common in fact that a new phrase was coined to describe it: "pious fraud."11 Such prevarication is confessed to repeatedly in the Catholic Encyclopedia.12 Some of the "great" church fathers, such as Eusebius13, were determined by their own peers to be unbelievable liars who regularly wrote their own fictions of what "the Lord" said and did during "his" alleged sojourn upon the earth.14

The Proof The assertion that Jesus Christ is a myth can be proved not only through the works of dissenters and "pagans" who knew the truth - and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and "Church Fathers" fooling the masses with their fictions - but also through the very statements of the Christians themselves, who continuously disclose that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. In fact, Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"15 (Emphasis added.) As Wheless says, "The proofs of my indictment are marvellously easy."

The Gnostics From their own admissions, the early Christians were incessantly under criticism by scholars of great repute who were impugned as "heathens" by their Christian adversaries. This group included many Gnostics, who strenuously objected to the carnalization of their deity, as the Christians can be shown to have taken many of the characteristics of their god and godman from the Gnostics, meaning "Ones who know," a loose designation applied to members of a variety of esoteric schools and brotherhoods. The refutations of the Christians against the Gnostics reveal that the Christian godman was an insult to the Gnostics, who held that their god could never take human form.16

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For more information, please see: The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled.

The Historical Jesus? The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Untangled Pliny, Tacitus and Suetonius: No Proof of Jesus Moon Mary: Queen of Heaven Born of a Virgin on December 25th Easter: Christian or Pagan? Astrotheology of the Ancients Krishna Born of a Virgin? Krishna Crucified? Osiris The Lord: Out of Egypt Life of Buddha Introduction to Suns of God "Suns of God" Review Dr. Robert Price's "Suns of God" Review Jesus in India? Beddru is Beddou is Buddha Mithra/Mithras: The Pagan Christ The Myth of Noah's Ark Jesus God Man or Myth Debunking the Christ Myth Origins of Christianity, Part 1 Origins of Christianity, Part 2 Origins of Christianity, Part 3 Origins of Christianity, Part 4 Origins of Christianity, Part 5 Origins of Christianity, Part 6 The Christ Conspiracy Articles

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#24. To: Zoroaster (#0)

The assertion that Jesus Christ is a myth can be proved not only through the works of dissenters and "pagans" who knew the truth - and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and "Church Fathers" fooling the masses with their fictions - but also through the very statements of the Christians themselves, who continuously disclose that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. In fact, Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"15 (Emphasis added.) As Wheless says, "The proofs of my indictment are marvellously easy."

Pope Leo was a cryptoJew, part of the ongoing antiChrist plot:

"DEATH OF THE PHOENIX

FINAL ACT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

ACT III. THE DAWN OF AQUARIUS

SCENE I. The Holy Roman Empire

Enter Giovanni de Medici as Pope Leo X,

also Merovingians William St. Clair and Mary de Guise

In the early 16th century, Pope Leo X, formerly Giovanni de Medici of the Jewish House of Medici, bankrupted the Vatican with an extravagant remodeling program. To make up the deficit, Leo launched an empire-wide campaign for the selling of indulgences. This particular papal abuse was the final straw that triggered the Protestant Reformation... which may have been the plan from the start:

“In one fell swoop, the Christian world was cleft in twain. No longer would Rome be able to raise great armies from its subject nations to crush heresies wherever the Papal finger pointed. There was no longer just one big boy on the block. Another had moved in. The mightiest church the world had ever known had been ‘divided’ and ‘conquered’.” (Rosslyn Chapel Revisited)

By means of covert operations, the Merovingian dynasty has always managed to keep their opposition divided and ineffective. William St. Clair and Mary de Guise, who lived during the Reformation period, apparently knew this little secret and, as high-born Merovingian Jews, were skilled in deploying their agents provocateurs:

“But the Reformed Church would not be allowed to remain squeaky clean. The life of Mary’s grandson, James VI, the first masonic* king of both Scotland and England, would be threatened by a plot hatched by ‘witches’ on Halloween, 1590. The celebrated but trumped-up case of the ‘North Berwick Witches’ kick-started over a century of Scottish witch hunts, and proved that your average Presbyterian could be just as vindictive as your average Catholic when it came to fighting Satan's minions. While an equilibrium had been established between the two great Christian powers, neither can yet lay claim to being the saintliest, and each still has that heavy cross of guilt to bear. Another perfect doublecross, perhaps?” (Ibid.)

*We note here that Merovingian authors include King James among the Masonic conspirators when it suits their purposes. In reality they were bitter enemies of King James due to his prosecution of the Druids who were a criminal element in Scotland. To get a true reading on the Christian character of King James, and his abhorrence of the witchcraft of the Merovingians, one has only to read his book, The Daemonologie......."

http://maranatha-amen.com/dawn-aquarius.html

"....This is what sparked the Reformation. The Pope desperately needed money to build St. Peter's in Rome. Forgiveness of sins was offered for a price —murder, adultery, lying, theft, swearing etc., etc. You could even buy forgiveness for future sins. . . . Salvation was bought and sold like any common marketplace commodity. That the Gift of God could be treated so contemptuously was the last straw for Luther.

Handwriting on the door. Oct. 31, 1517.

Pope Leo X

Pope Leo X. (1513 - 1521).

Leo thundered at Saint Martin and ordered him to appear at Rome with 60 days!!

The Burning of Babylon commences!!

Roman Emperor Leo X., roared at Luther and sent him a Bull of Excommunication ordering him to appear at Rome within 60 days to recant . . . or face a fiery death.

Flames consume the Papal Bull of Excommunication. Luther ignored this Papal thunder and on Dec. 10, 1520, outside the gates of Wittenberg, he burnt the Papal Bull;, the Decretals of Clement VI., the Summa Angelica, the Chrysposus of Dr. Eck etc., etc.

By this brave act Luther formally excommunicated the Pope. Since that fateful day, the fire of God's wrath has never ceased to consume Babylon the Great......

http://www.reformation.org/luther.html

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope Leo X Pope Leo X. (GIOVANNI DE MEDICI). Born at Florence, 11 December, 1475; died at Rome, 1 December, 1521, was the second son of Lorenzo the Magnificent ... http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09162a.htm

"...."Mrs. Van Hyning, I am surprised at your surprise. You are a student of history -- and you know that both the Borgias and the Mediciis are Jewish families of Italy. Surely you know that there have been Popes from both of these houses. Perhaps it will surprise you to know that we have had 20 Jewish Popes, and when you have sufficient time, which may coincide with my free time, I can show you these names and dates. You will learn from these that: The crimes committed in the name of the Catholic Church were under Jewish Popes. The leaders of the inquisition was one, de TorQuemada, a Jew." (Woman's Voice, November 25, 1953)...." 1001 Quotes By and About Jews

MYSTERY BABYLON 3 MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT. CATHOLIC OR JEWISH? PART III. THE MEDICI ... Medici (1535-1605) was Pope Leo XI and Giovanni de Medici, Pope Leo X (1513-1521). ... http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-3.html

The Gnostics From their own admissions, the early Christians were incessantly under criticism by scholars of great repute who were impugned as "heathens" by their Christian adversaries. This group included many Gnostics, who strenuously objected to the carnalization of their deity, as the Christians can be shown to have taken many of the characteristics of their god and godman from the Gnostics, meaning "Ones who know," a loose designation applied to members of a variety of esoteric schools and brotherhoods. The refutations of the Christians against the Gnostics reveal that the Christian godman was an insult to the Gnostics, who held that their god could never take human form.16

1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come *** in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of ***** antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and *** even now already is it in the world.

2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

"THE REFORMATION:

ROSICRUCIAN CONNECTIONS

Today we hear frequent exhortations coming from Fundamental and Evangelical leaders that the Church needs a "new Reformation," or a second or third Reformation.......

".... *

ESOTERIC CHRISTIANITY

*

Christians have been led to believe that the "one world religion" will eradicate Christianity, rather than transform it.

*

FICTION: The one world religion will exclude evangelical Christianity.

“The most likely scenario in the years following this Parliament (of World Religions) will be the gradual formation of a 'World Council of Religion' which will function in a way similar to that of the present World Council of Churches or the United Nations. Despite their differences, this league of religions will be most united in three particular areas:

“1. To foster the view that all religions (in which they mistakenly include Christianity) share the same God and are one in their ultimate ambitions. 2. To create permanent world peace and justice through cooperation with a similarly-confederated form of world government (e.g., the United Nations). 3. To propagate the concept that biblical, evangelical Christianity is a hindrance to 'evolutionary' progress and spiritual growth on this planet." (Alan Morrison, The Serpent & the Cross, K. & M. Books, 1994, 1999, Chapter 12.)

*

FACT: The "one world religion" will be a Gnostic form of Christianity.

“Is Christianity to survive as the religion of the West? Is it to live through the centuries of the future, and to continue to play a part in moulding the thought of the evolving western races? If it is to live, it must regain the knowledge it has lost, and again have its mystic and its occult teachings; it must again stand forth as an authoritative teacher of spiritual verities, clothed with the only authority worth anything, the authority of knowledge. If these teachings be regained, their influence will soon be seen in wider and deeper views of truth; dogmas, which now seem like mere shells and fetters, shall again be seen to partial presentments of fundamental realities. First, Esoteric Christianity will reappear in the ‘Holy Place’, in the Temple so that all who are capable of receiving it may follow its lines of published thought; and secondly, Occult Christianity will again descend into the adytum, dwelling behind the veil which guards the ‘Holy of Holies’, into which only the Initiate may enter…” (Annie Besant, Esoteric Christianity, pp. 26-7)......"

http://www.angelfire.com/journal...o-prayer/reformation.html

great....all you who don't want Christ to rule over you....this is what you will get if you get your way:

Scepter of Judah and Thesis Statements [Agenda for World War, Destruction of Christian America; and Jewish Supremacy]

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75182

good job.

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#48. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, innieway (#24)

The Gnostics From their own admissions, the early Christians were incessantly under criticism by scholars of great repute who were impugned as "heathens" by their Christian adversaries. This group included many Gnostics, who strenuously objected to the carnalization of their deity, as the Christians can be shown to have taken many of the characteristics of their godman from the Gnostics, meaning "Ones who know," a loose designation applied to members of a variety of esoteric schools and brotherhoods. The refutations of the Christians against the Gnostics reveal that the Christian godman was an insult to the Gnostics, who held that their god could never take human form.16

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FACT: The "one world religion" will be a Gnostic form of Christianity.

“Is Christianity to survive as the religion of the West? Is it to live through the centuries of the future, and to continue to play a part in moulding the thought of the evolving western races? If it is to live, it must regain the knowledge it has lost, and again have its mystic and its occult teachings; it must again stand forth as an authoritative teacher of spiritual verities, clothed with the only authority worth anything, the authority of knowledge. If these teachings be regained, their influence will soon be seen in wider and deeper views of truth; dogmas, which now seem like mere shells and fetters, shall again be seen to partial presentments of fundamental realities. First, Esoteric Christianity will reappear in the ‘Holy Place’, in the Temple so that all who are capable of receiving it may follow its lines of published thought; and secondly, Occult Christianity will again descend into the adytum, dwelling behind the veil which guards the ‘Holy of Holies’, into which only the Initiate may enter…” (Annie Besant, Esoteric Christianity, pp. 26-7)......"

forgot about this bit of evidence.... Gnostism stemmed from the Jews, too, as I THOUGHT:

".... THE ALEXANDRIAN GNOSTICS

Alexandria, Egypt was a center of interchange of religious ideas as well as the intellectual meeting point between the Jews and the Greeks. After the fall of Jerusalem, Alexandria would become the epicenter from which the Cabalist Jews, who had synthesized their Chaldean witchcraft with Neo-Platonic philosophy, would cloak the new Cabalism in Christian terminology and attempt to penetrate the fledgling Church with heresy. As the origins of the Cabala were documented in the Chaldean mystery religion, the Jewish Encyclopedia locates the source of Gnosticism in Jewish Cabalism:

“But especially does Gnosticism testify to the antiquity of the Cabala. Of Chaldean origin... Gnosticism was Jewish in character long before it became Christian... Gnosticism—that is, the cabalistic ‘Hokmah’ (wisdom)—seems to have been the first attempt on the part of the Jewish sages to give the empirical mystic lore, with the help of Platonic and Pythagorean or Stoic ideas, a speculative turn; hence the danger of heresy…of which the systems of Philo, an adept in Cabala...show many pitfalls...

“Jewish gnosticism unquestionably antedates Christianity, for Biblical exegesis had already reached an age of five hundred years by the first century C.E. Judaism had been in close contact with Babylonian-Persian ideas for at least that length of time, and for nearly as long a period with Hellenistic ideas. Magic, also, which,...was a not unimportant part of the doctrines and manifestations of gnosticism, largely occupied Jewish thinkers. There is, in general, no circle of ideas to which elements of gnosticism have been traced, and with which the Jews were not acquainted.” (Jewish Encyclopedia)......."

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html

from THE BLOOD MOON ECLIPSE, THE MIDDLE EAST, AND END TIMES EVENTS http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bi...?ArtNum=75014&Disp=13#C13

HMMMM.....just googled WHY LEAP THEE, and the following came up....for future study for any significance.....

4um: The Blood Moon Eclipse, The Middle East, And End Time Events This is a leap year and so Adar 14 is called Purim Katan. ..... Gen 27:28 Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, ... http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75014

WHY LEAP THEE KJV of Psalm 68:16 Why do you look with envy, O mountains with many peaks, At the mountain which God has desired for His abode? Surely the LORD will dwell there forever. bible.cc/exodus/15-17.htm

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Pope Leo was a cryptoJew, part of the ongoing antiChrist plot:

"DEATH OF THE PHOENIX

FINAL ACT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

ACT III. "THE DAWN OF AQUARIUS"

another little coincidence [I believe Matthew 24 was basically fulfilled in 70 AD, but as all scripture is given for an example]:

Matthew 24: For as the lightning cometh out of the east,and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. [see Ezekiel 17, John 15:1-2, Matthew 15:13] 29 (NOTE: my seminary Bible has a note to see Dan. 7:11...I'd continue to the end of the chapter.)Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, (NOTE: There is supposed to be a full moon at passover, but the sun, of course, will have set; and furthermore, the sun, which should have been shining, was darkened at the crucifixion. Will the full moon go dark? see Darkness at Full Moon? http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=76308 ) and the stars shall fall from heaven, (NOTE: "The Planets. Best observations from midnight to dawn...looking eastward.... **** eta-Aquarids (COMING FROM THE CONSTELLATION AQUARIUS) APRIL 19 to May 28, 2008...." http://myweb.westnet.com.au.astroventures/page6.html ] and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. [note: I have been giving some thought to verses such as this in regard to the concept of "rapture"....the dead in Christ will be raised up first....they will be changed in the twinkling of an eye....they will meet him in the air and thus will they always be with the Lord....I could see this as the raising of all the "sleeping" saints even back to the old testament times, including those old bones in

Ezekiel 37 which are raised "a great army"....to do battle in the New Jerusalem perhaps? I don't know....but I do not believe they will STAY in the air but be taken to their new home in the New Jerusalem, which I believe to be Christian America....where the wheat and tares are about to be separated.] 31Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35Heaven and earth [note: heaven and earth to the Jews, was the temple and the city of Jerusalem, and it passed away with the old covenant for good in 70 AD, in God's mind anyway....the "new" world order is nothing but an attempt to reinstate the old covenant with the Jews at the helm] shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away........

Isa 65:16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; [ I AM the Way, the TRUTH, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by me.] ] and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa065.html#15

[There are TWO Israels in Isaiah 65...one cursed and one blessed. One chosen, and one not.]

continuing on with this theme through Isaiah 66:

v. 20.......brethren....from all nations.....

v.21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites [See Rev. 5:9-10], saith the Lord. 22 For as [Note in Bible...see Ch.65:17, 1Pet. 3:13, Rev. 21:1]the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed [seed....see Gal. 3:16-29] and your name [new name, called after "the seed", Christ] remain. And [Bible note: Zech. 14:16] it shall come to pass that [Bible note: from new moon to **** HIS new moon, and from sabbath to **** HIS sabbath] from one new moon (March 7? Old Year) to another (April 6? New Year) and from one sabbath [Friday March 21? beginning of the Sabbath for the Jews and also Purim for the Jews, "Good Friday" for Christians, and the last full moon of the old year] to another [April 20? which is the Biblical Passover for Jews and Christians, as it is the first full moon after the first new moon of the new (Biblical) year], (Bible note: Psalm 65:2) shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the (Bible note: see verse 16) the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me (my note: see Ezekiel 38-39): for their (Bible note: see Mark 9:44, 46, 48)worm shall not die; neither shall their fire be quenched and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. [Last word in Isaiah, which is said to be a mini-gospel.]

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".....JEHOVAH's new year begins at the new moon following the spring equinox......

The first day of spring, when the sun is at the equator, falls on March 20.The new year new moon falls on April 6, and the Pascal or Resurrection full moon falls on April 20.

Moses used a solar/lunar calendar. The spring equinox (March 20) began the solar year, and the lunar year began at the first new moon after the equinox.

The Passover—the anniversary of the Exodus from Egyptian bondage— was always celebrated on the 14th day of the FIRST MONTH of the Jewish calendar.

The Lord told Moses:

"This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you" (Exodus 12:2).

This was always at the time of the full moon, following the new moon, after the spring equinox.

JEHOVAH told Moses:

"In the fourteenth day of the FIRST MONTH at even is the LORD's passover" (Leviticus 23:5).

Moses kept the Passover on the anniversary of the Exodus in the wilderness of Sinai:

"And they kept the passover on the fourteenth day of the FIRST MONTH at even in the wilderness of Sinai: according to all that the LORD commanded Moses, so did the children of Israel" (Numbers 9:5).......

The feast of the Passover and Resurrection was celebrated every year by the Christians on the 14th of the month following the new moon, following the equinox....It was the most important holiday on their calendar. Here is a quote from one of the Early Congregation Fathers named Saint Anatolius of Laodicea:

" . . .Following their example up to the present time all the bishops of Asia — as themselves also receiving the rule from an unimpeachable authority, to wit, the evangelist John, who leant on the Lord's breast, and drank in instructions spiritual without doubt — were in the way of celebrating the Paschal feast, without question, every year, whenever the fourteenth day of the moon had come, and the lamb was sacrificed by the Jews after the equinox was past."

Here is the reason why the Passover was held at the time of the full moon. Quoting again from Saint Anatolius:

"But it is clear that in the Paschal feast it is not possible that any part of the darkness should surpass the light; for the festival of the Lord's resurrection is one of light, and there is no fellowship between light and darkness. And if the moon should rise in the third watch, it is clear that the 22d or 23d of the moon would then be reached, in which it is not possible that there can be a true celebration of Easter. For those who determine that the festival may be kept at this age of the moon, are not only unable to make that good by the authority of Scripture, but turn also into the crime of sacrilege and contumacy, and incur the peril of their souls; inasmuch as they affirm that the true light may be celebrated along with something of that power of darkness which dominates all." Saint Anatolius of Laodicea:

In the ancient world the night was divided into 4 watches

1st Watch 6 to 9 p.m

2nd Watch 9 to 12 Midnight

3d Watch Midnight to 3 am.

4th Watch 3 to 6 am.

When the moon rises after midnight — in the 3rd watch — the darkness is greater than the light for that particular night...... [ATKHWDI Note: Luke 12:38]

according to Holy Scripture," the Feast of the Passover should be observed only between the 14th and 20th day after the new moon; it was a crime to celebrate the resurrection of the Lord at a time when darkness was more powerful than light, for after the 20th of the lunar month the moon does not rise till after midnight;.......

Christ our Passover!!

The great antitype of the deliverance from Egyptian bondage was the death and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. This great event took place on the anniversary of the Exodus:

"Now before the feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world" (John 13:1).....

Happy Resurrection Day, April 20, 2008

http://www.reformation.org/happy-resurrection-day.html

third watch and the darkest time of the night...my ramblings....see Matthew 26:34,74-76....watch....Matthew 26:40-41.....Matthew 24:42-51....Matthew 25:1-13, to end of chapter.....Luke 12:35-48 [ 47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will SHALL BE BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. 47 BUT HE THAT KNEW NOT, AND DID COMMIT THINGS WORTHY OF STRIPES, SHALL BE BEATEN WITH FEW STRIPES. [up to and just before the 41st stripe for some, and 41 stripes for the rest??? http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bi...gi?ArtNum=76243&Disp=3#C3 Luke 12:38.....Exodus 12:29, Matthew 25:6] For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required, and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.... see also verses 54-57.

Dan 12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days. [fulfilled]

Dan 12:12 Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days [???? 45 days....count 'em...[from "old" new moon, March 7, to "new" new moon, April 6, and from "old" sabbath - March 21 = beginning of Jewish Sabbath/Purim/"Good Friday" to the "new" sabbath?? "Jesus is our Sabbath/Rest"..."Jesus is our PASSOVER", which begins at even on the 20th of April, which could mean He considers "Sunday" His new Sabbath....well, after all, there is that quirky verse: the "Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in his wings"....]..... with the "inclusionary reckoning".... http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2008/marilyna229.htm Including March 7 and counting through Passover, April 20, is 45 days. Passover starts on the "even" of the 20th, BUT the Jewish SABBATH actually starts on the evening of the 18th and ends on the evening of the 19th. WE would not count the 7th, and 45 days would end on the 21st. However, sometime on the 19th of April [Julian calendar, 29th on the Gregorian], the Jewish sabbath, is the day our bondage began, for that is the day they planted the cross at Cape Henry [Gen. 15:13-14/Gal. 3:16-29], and I would expect deliverance to begin before the 41st stripe....and before the darkest time of the night.....IF my calculations are correct, and I am not at all sure they are, it all seems to fit...."Can a nation be born in one day? Who has heard of such a thing?"] I don't agree with a lot in this article, but found this theory of the inclusionary rule interesting and edifying.]

[still researching and contemplating, but posting this before the computer crashes]

Mark 13:35-37 Watch and Pray!

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[p.s. there is a discrepancy here in my calculations here, i think, and it has to do with the confusion over when Passover begins....my calendar says it begins on the evening of the 19th, but I have read an article which says that is incorrect, and that it actually starts on the evening of the 20th....I will have to sort this out. I guess it might depend on whether this "inclusionary rule" is factual or not.]....calling innieway....help!

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