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Title: UNBRAINWASH YOURSELF
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Published: Apr 5, 2008
Author: Alan Stang
Post Date: 2008-04-05 13:45:43 by christine
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Again and again in these columns I have respectfully reminded you that the main reason this country is now on its knees is the communist government schools. We could not have arrived at the end of the plank had not those schools cooked our brains from the beginning. The communist media left and right – from the Communist Broadcasting System and the Communist News Network to Loopy Laura and Limbag – would not be enough. It could not have been done without the communist schools. That is why the schools want ever younger victims. Consider that the most important time you hear about something is the first time, because the first time you have nothing to compare it to. You can’t criticize it; you can’t evaluate it. So what you hear the first time sinks into your mind and becomes the matrix, the mold. It becomes “true.” From then on, everything you hear about that particular subject is filtered through that matrix and you have no way of knowing if that matrix is faulty. From then on, you will reject the truth because it will sound alien compared to what you “know.” So it all depends on who gets there first. If I am 40, or 50 or whatever years old, and you tell me something I don’t know, I compare it to what I do. If I am five years old, I believe whatever the nice lady my parents park me with says. If the only thing I hear for the next thirteen years is what she says – if I never hear anything else – I regard anything contradictory as crazy. Thus, if I have heard for thirteen years, or seventeen years if I go to college, that the white man is responsible for every problem from asthma to xenophobia, and that anyone who says anything else is a “racist,” I tend to believe it when you show up and say that. If the only thing I’ve ever heard is that Lincoln was sent by God to save the Union and free the slaves, I consider you a nut when you say Lincoln was our first Communist President, that he destroyed the Union and that he wanted to send the nation’s blacks back to Africa. The same thing applies to any assertion that the federal government is not here to help you, that the Fed arranged the Great Depression, that FDR arranged Pearl Harbor, that federal welfare destroyed the black family, that Washington colluded in Nine Eleven, and on and on. Of course, these things are intangibles. You can’t see the Great Depression; you must dig out the real history to see what really happened. The real brainwashing hits when you are told that the truth is different from what you see every day, e.g., when you are told that men and women are the “same” (except that women should run things) and that sodomite buggery is “normal.” The purpose of the Communist media is to reinforce what you have been told, in case, despite these elaborate precautions, you accidentally blunder into the truth. The Germans call what we are talking about the “zeitgeist,” the “spirit of the time,” but that doesn’t quite do the trick. For want of something better, I have elected to call it the Abasement Matrix. We don’t know it is there, but everything we experience – everything we do – is filtered through it, and it is the reason we are losing. It answers the question of how the conspiracy for world government gets away with such outrages, every one more egregious. The reason is we allow it; we allow it and applaud it. Again, the obvious solution to all this is to remove your kiddos from the Communist government schools. You still can do this and as soon as you do it you will experience the thrill of an enormous victory. You have just saved another victim from the monster. You are a Twenty First Century Scarlet Pimpernel. As long as you leave a child in the clutches of the monster, anything you think you are doing to fight it is an ineffectual joke. Yes, I know it can be difficult. We home-schooled all five and as I write not one is in jail. The reason all this again comes to mind is that as the Republican National Convention approaches, patriots are being told as usual how to behave. Make nice, we are told. Play fair. No cheating. Honor. Don’t try to change the rules. Do as you are told, our way. Elect Republicans. Any disunity could help Hillary and Hussein. And by the way, there is no such candidate as Dr. Ron No Such Candidate Paul. Who? Except that the people who tell us this are the same people who changed the rules to steal the 1952 nomination for Eisenhower from Taft. Robert Taft was “Mr. Republican,” while Eisenhower only a few months earlier had confirmed that he was not a Democrat. They are the same people – putative Republicans – who sabotaged Barry Goldwater in 1964; who routinely squelch any “conservative” eruption. Here is an ethical question: If a guy steps out of an alley and sticks a gun in your ribs, do ethics require you to treat him fairly? Here’s another: You are downstairs in the living room reading scripture, when someone breaks in and you realize he is the same man you just saw on television described as an escaped serial rapist. The man asks where your daughter is and she is upstairs. What do you tell him? The answer is that, holding the Bible in both hands, you lie. You say your daughter is visiting her grandmother in Schenectady. You took her to the airport. You just got back. She won’t return for a couple of weeks, but he’s welcome to wait. You keep lying, and if you get the chance you rack the old Widow Maker in the corner and blow him away. Why do you do that? One of the things the Founding Fathers explained is that the system of government they were leaving us could only work among a people mature enough, responsible enough, to obey the rules, the Christian rules. Immature, irresponsible people cancel the rules. If they do that, the mature, responsible people who remain no longer are required to obey. Well, what kind of people are we talking about? What kind of people run the Republican Party? First, remember that they are the same kind of people who run the Democrats. They are part of the same totalitarian cabal at the top. They are “different” in the same way Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Al Capone, Mao Tse-tung and Meyer Lansky were “different.” I am not talking about the people you see at the local Republican Club. I am talking about the people you don’t see – or see only at a distance or on television – at the very top. What have these people done? They have blithely tricked us into one war after another for more than a century, starting with Lincoln’s Communist War to Destroy the Union. They couldn’t care less who and how many are killed and maimed on whichever side. Indeed, they routinely finance and support both sides, to keep the wars going as long as they can, because the longer you fight, the more wealth and power they collect. For instance, the more you know about World War I, and about the jejune European rulers who fomented it, the more you realize that Washington’s intervention was one of the most preposterous decisions every made. The conspirators created Soviet Russia, Hitler Germany, Red China, Castro Cuba and the Iran we are getting ready to bomb. Without their intervention, none of these things would ever have amounted to more than historical footnotes at the bottom of a page. They extort and swindle and regulate and socialize, to collect more wealth and more power. It was Alan Greenscum’s Fed that got us into the present financial mess; now, el presidente Jorge W. Boosh proposes “solving” the mess by giving the Fed even more power, and Greenscum, still not in jail, is telling Middle East sheikhs to dump the dollar in favor of the Euro. If you go to any U.S. Marine base, you will hear the name of Smedley Butler. There, Butler is as close to divine as a man can get without being God Himself. General Butler was awarded not one, but two Medals of Honor. Most Marines don’t know that Butler later wrote a book, War Is a Racket, in which he explained his new understanding that Washington had sent his beloved Marines around the world on behalf of huge international corporations. Hugh Hewitt is a radio neo-con (man). Recently, thinking of that book, Blewitt actually said that General Butler became “un-American.” Wouldn’t you love to hear him say that at Pendleton? Americanism to Hugh Blewitt means militarism, means making imperial war on the world, poking our nose into everyone else’s business abroad and regimentation at home. The Monsanto monster is poisoning your food. Big Pharma has almost succeeded in making vitamins illegal. In preparation for the discontent to come, Washington is imposing a fascist dictatorship here – rule by monster corporation – complete with concentration camps that would drive the torturers in Orwell’s 1984 livid with jealousy, furious that they did not have today’s technology that makes it possible. Soon, you will need a Real ID to go to the ladies’ room, while illegal aliens roam the nation unchecked. Remember that Boosh is running the invasion. So, again, what kind of people are we talking about? They are psychopaths. A psychopath is distinguished from normal people in that he – or she – has no moral sense, no conscience. A psychopath is incapable of experiencing embarrassment or shame. You may never have met one because they are only a handful; if there were any more than a few, civilization would be impossible. It would be replaced by a landscape ruled by ravening wolves. They are paradoxically brilliant and immensely attractive, “magnetic” personalities. The lawmen tell us we shall never know how many women utterly charming Ted Bundy killed. They nailed him for some thirty, but women disappear all the time and are never seen again. Undoubtedly, he did some of them, but he fried still not talking. Stalin is reputed to have said, maybe apocryphally, that the greatest joy in life is befriending a man until he trusts you completely, and then sticking a knife in his ribs. Now look at Hillary Clinton, not at all in the spirit of partisanship. She is just a recent, good example. She lies all the time, even when she doesn’t need to. She is a compulsive liar. You can’t even believe her name. She lied about it, saying she was named for Sir Edmund Hillary. Remember? Recently, she clearly remembered running for cover under intense sniper fire in the Balkans, where Rapist-in-Chief Bill sent her because he always sent the First Feminoid where the danger was greatest. You and I wouldn’t tell such a whopper to start with; but, if we had, we would be mortified when caught, eaten up with shame. Remember the First Feminoid’s response when this latest lie was exposed, this time on videotape by the correspondent who was there? Yeah, I misspoke. You caught me. Ha, ha. Well on to the next prevarication. Isn’t politics fun? Wasn’t that in effect what she said? I am not the first observer to say that you can’t embarrass the Clintons. You couldn’t embarrass Hillary if you videotaped her naked straddling Janet Reno at a bull dyke convention. You couldn’t embarrass Bill if you caught him servicing a sow in a hog wallow. And Jorge W. Boosh likewise is apparently incapable of shame, enthusiastically talking patriotism while he leads the illegal alien invasion. So, let’s see, while these traitors are robbing, swindling, killing, maiming, enslaving and betraying us, we are supposed to be well-behaved little boys and girls and make nice, because anything else would be rude. We are supposed to defer to the bull dyke revolution and confirm the feminization that is destroying our civilization. Do I understand? Remember, I am not talking about ordinary venality, not about wanting the imagined prestige of political jobs. I’m talking about people who worship the Republican Party, who secretly imagine it will still be here when everything else collapses, when the Southwest is again Mexican, there is a mosque on every corner in New England and the United States has been dissolved. I’m talking about the people at the top, colder than absolute zero, who couldn’t care less about all this as long as the money rolls in. Remember also that there is only one way to stop a striking rattler.
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#1. To: christine, all, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0)
I dont buy this. A lot of us have gone to public schools, and although we may be "brainwashed" to a certain degree, we also are not easily fooled. I am not a feminist, homosexual, straight, bisexual, trysexual, liberal, conservative, libertarian, secular humanist, "christian", or any other label that some PTB cares to attach to me to keep us in their grasp. Why didn't the "brainwashing" work in my case? Or yours? Or anyone elses that frequents these kinds of websites? How is it that we value freedom over conformity? How did we escape? If there ever was such a thing as "predestination" it is in relation to this, not that some are predestined to "eternal hell" that the "church" would have us believe, if we dont believe as they believe. There are more than enough of us out there to bring their plans crashing down on their fucking heads, with Gods' provision. Sometimes being a minority is a good thing. It keeps us honest.
------They may look intimidating, by design, but they aren't bulletproof. -------
This sort of commentary goes a long way towards de-programming. I know what you mean, but recall back to your childhood; at the time, we believed what they taught us. Later we tossed out the nonsense.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Some of the things they tried to teach me went in one ear and right out the other, much to their aggravation. How is it that we were able to do this, even later on in life; and most other intelligent people, many smarter than me, cannot do this? That is what I dont understand; how are we able to break free? Where did it start? How was it done? IMO there has to be a Divine element to this.
------They may look intimidating, by design, but they aren't bulletproof. -------
I agree.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
One day, we took the red pill and awoke to reality.
When I was a little kid I believed if I stepped on a crack I'd break my mom's back, and the stuff inside a golfball was poison, and that if I put a tooth in Coke it would dissolve overnight, and that if I put an aspirin in Coke it would make me drunk. I once tried to throw salt on a bird's tail because I thought I would catch him. Little kids will believe anything. I figure adults who remain brainwashed still have the minds of children.
"Man is rather stupid than wicked." - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
Fortified with God. You know, the Guy Who talks to Bush in that typically silent and certainly not un-Christian sort of way which requires that the recipient relay to everyone else the gist of what was said. Asking a religious leader to complain about the content is kind of like asking a midget to lift his own house.
robin: I know what you mean, but recall back to your childhood; at the time, we believed what they taught us. Later we tossed out the nonsense. We are, at this time, a minority. There is almost always a percentage bright enough to look at and spot the contradictions and reason toward a more truthful, and hence accurate, conclusion. That does not mean everyone is. The reality can be seen in the NeoCon followers, the FReepistan Morons, the Rush Slimebag and Neil BOORtz liss'ners, those who still think "we wuz rite ta' go and git the filthy Sand Niggers". The reality is that not everyone is strong enough, or bright enough, to confront the reality we face.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Coming of age in the 60s taught us to "Question Authority" and not to trust govt.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Then why do you trust government with your health care?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Who said I do? I see I cannot trust the CEO of HealthNet, he likes to cancel health coverage to people who get sick. I'm trying to look at all possibilities and see what would work better than one that leaves 45 million Americans (8 million are children) w/o any coverage. From the 1st Single Payer link I gave you above: Single Payer would modify how doctors are paid, how hospitals calculate their costs and budgets, and how much prescription drugs cost in the United States. I would trust any one state over the federal govt and Single Payer sounds less govt intrusive than universal. Every nation in EU and Scandinavia has better health care than America. Some are especially better than others. And they all cost less than ours. Private companies still provide coverage in Switzerland. Germany has had a health care system since Otto von Bismarck, in the 1880s. Check this chart on Single Payer: www.grahamazon.com/sp/compare.php
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I believe it was the great American statesman Andrew Clay who said "You either suck dick, or you do not suck dick."
...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins... However, it is a private organization and doing that ruins their reputation and makes those who can choose less likely to choose his company. The solution is better enforcement of contracts and stiffer penalties for companies, such as Healthnet, who violate them. It is not an argument supporting a government enforced Hellthcare system. Then you need to start asking the question: Why is that so? First you need to know the "Why" before you can propose a workable solution. That is Bean Counting. First you need to look at and question the paradigm of Health Care. What do we mean by Health Care? If you can't give it a clear distinct definition then you are not yet at the point where you can propose a solution. First you need to define: What is the problem? What is the cause of the problem? The WHY. Without this you cannot solve the problem. Any system of "Single Payer" will have Federal "Regulations" and thus Federal Control. That is the pretext, via the Interstate Commerce Clause, that currently allows the Pharmaceutical Cartel, via their lackeys in the Feral Government, to control what constitutes Medicine and acceptable practice which is all that will be allowable under your proposed "Single Payer" system. Of course natural alternatives would be outlawed as "bad practice" and the "Single Payer" System would not pay for non-toxic natural treatments. It depends upon how you define "better". I don't accept your premise. The EU has made many vitamins "Prescription" and of course the only ones that meet the standards for "prescription" are sterile inorganic compounds produced by the Pharmaceutical Cartel. I much prefer private arrangements without government interference, beyond laws enforcing contracts and against fraud, as people are capable of making their own decisions. They don't always make the best ones but we live in an imperfect world and it is their prerogative to be stupid as long as their action does not adversely affect another. Otto Von Bismarck was an Autocrat and there was not an ounce of charity in his actions - it was to cement STATE CONTROL over intimate aspects of life. It was, just as Single Payer/Socialized Medicine is now a mechanism of control. When you factor in the Eugenics agenda of our self styled elites then you have created a mechanism for mass liquidation of large segments of the planetary population. Money is not their only agenda - they just want to make us pay for our own extermination.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
That is what I dont understand; how are we able to break free? Where did it start? How was it done? IMO there has to be a Divine element to this. At some point we realize that what we were told does not logically mesh with the world around us. Take Santa Clause. I think kids reach an age where they understand that you can't be in 2 places at one time and they begin to understand that one Santa can't possibly visit 50 million kids in one night. I distinctly remember one day as a teen in Catholic class when the teacher made a contrast between our church and the rather prominent Mormon temple off the DC beltway. She said our modest church still owed $100K, and yet the extravagant Mormon temple was completely paid for. She added "And they have the false religion". The question immediately came to mind: "Do they know they have a false religion?" The obvious answer was no. The follow up: "Then how do we know we have the true religion?". I was silent in class, but the question remained lodged in my head, unanswered. Then again, it's my way to take a logical view of the whole world and all of life. I guess that's my foundation or measure for everything, including spiritual matters. Others are not so critical. Their view of the world is based on feelings or faith in what they were first told, and it's a far greater challenge to discount what's spewed from Fox News than stories about a red suited fat guy that lives on a forsaken permanent iceberg with elves.
In my case, after I caught them lying about Santa Claus, I knew the motherfuckers were lying about the easter bunny, and was pretty sure the tooth fairy was bullshit too ... at any rate from that point on I was leary and inclined to search out the facts myself. On a more serious note, I agree that there is a divine element in comprehending truth. The Bible says "eyes to see and ears to hear" ... (not that other writings don't say this same thing, the Bible is just one that I read )... this divine intervention doesn't appear to have much regard for religion, religious views, or any specific factor that might dictate who does and who doesn't get it.
Guns don't kill people ... the Governments we finance thru taxes do
Christine, I am a Marxist Communist and long for a Communist take over and so far I have seen none of it. What you say is pure fabrication and ignorance of what Communism stands for and what it is all about. I am not going to educate you. It would be a waste of time. You sound pretty far gone already and it would take pages to bring you up to speed. In closing, you and I are living in a fascist dictatorship and Communists have always been against fascists. Remember WWII when we found side by side with Russian Communists to rid Europe from Hitler? He was a fascist and the Bush family supported him and brought fascism to America.
Perfect name ... for a blind commie, ignorant to the blended form of fascist- communism being promoted in D.C. Where the hell did you come from ?
Guns don't kill people ... the Governments we finance thru taxes do
Then you need to start asking the question: Why is that so? First you need to know the "Why" before you can propose a workable solution. Because our health insurance comes from our employers and once well employed Americans are now out of work. The reasons are numerous - I blame offshoring and outsourcing, along with foreign visa and illegal workers. Until 65, health care is expensive outside of one's employer. Single-payer removes the employer-paid insurance from the equation.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
exactly
Possibly, but it was ordinary workers who demanded it. Germany has the world's oldest universal health care system, with origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's Health Insurance Act of 1883. As mandatory health insurance, it originally applied only to low-income workers and certain government employees, but has gradually expanded to cover virtually the entire population.[6] Currently 85% of the population is covered by a basic 'Statutory Health Insurance' plan, which provides the standard level of coverage. The remainder opt for private health insurance, which frequently offers additional benefits. According to the World Health Organization, Germany's health care system was 77% government-funded and 23% privately funded as of 2004.[7] Our health care costs twice as much. How much do you think of our health care is actually paid by our taxes for people in ER? I have no idea, but there are stats that prove we pay twice as much for health care.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I'm curious, which nations would you now call communist? The labels are started to get fuzzy for me. I agree with you about the Bush regime, it is a fascist dictatorship. Just ask John Yoo.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I don't see a damned bit of difference between communism and fascism, both are top-down totalitarian systems which profit the select few at the expense of the vast majority. Even if a communist government were set up as advertised, it goes against human nature to work with little or no reward, the same principle that made slavery unworkable. As people become dissatisfied, it requires more and more resources to keep them under control, and at some point those requirements exceed those necessary to produce food and other necessities. China will soon learn this lesson, and will either begin making reforms or will collapse. The US is in the same boat with our gigantic prison population and the growth of internal surveillance. I don't see reform on the horizon, so it seems collapse is inevitable. Call it whatever you want, but an all-powerful state inevitably collapses under its own weight.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
That must be why Chertoff is feeling so at home here.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Along with the freedom of choice and access to alternatives. It puts "massuh" in control of hellthcare and the freedom to exterminate the "useless eaters*". *Actual quote from Henry Kissinger in describing us lower orders. You assume as an underlying premise that the current regime of Allopathic Big Pharma controlled medicine is desirable for all. It is not and people are voting with their dollars. The current high cost of hellthcare is because of government intervention not the absence of it. If you are concerned about the wellbeing of the uninsured then start an organization to take care of them. If it is sound and does the job then you will have no problem getting donations freely given to support it - and it will not be under the control of the psychopaths who run our government. You treat mandatory State Controlled Hellthcare as though it were some cure all when all it is, is another brand of "Snake Oil" with a pretty sounding name and a good PR Agency.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
very good summation
By the time we go full boat commie, I'll be long dead thanks to people who refuse to buy carbon credits for their 60s muscle cars.
Obama, albeit using slightly different terms, agrees: "To defeat al Qaeda, I will build a twenty-first-century military and twenty-first-century partnerships as strong as the anticommunist alliance that won the Cold War to stay on the offense everywhere from Djibouti to Kandahar." - Sen Obama, June 4, 2007
There's more to health care than meds. And as I pointed out, alternative health care is not covered by health insurance now. The Swiss have 87 health insurance companies to choose from, as I posted with a link yesterday. Removing the employers from the health care business is a good first step: "I think the Netherlands is hot right now because a number of people are realizing that we need to go to an individual-based system instead of an employer-based one," he said. President George W. Bush recently proposed eliminating the different tax treatment for employer-purchased and individually purchased health insurance by letting individuals buy insurance with pre-tax dollars.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Don't think your patriot-genius is not being noticed. Very sound, well done.
Thank you for the kind words.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
At night we ride through the mansions of glory in suicide machines. Is it okay if I call you Wendy?
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
If you don't unbrainwash yourself, ain't nobody gonna give a good cahoot.
You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy, “Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
He wrote better songs under LSD than under religion.
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#2. To: PSUSA (#1)
Hugh Hewitt is a radio neo-con (man). Recently, thinking of that book, Blewitt actually said that General Butler became “un-American.”
#3. To: robin (#2)
I know what you mean, but recall back to your childhood; at the time, we believed what they taught us. Later we tossed out the nonsense.
#4. To: PSUSA (#3)
there has to be a Divine element to this
#5. To: PSUSA. Everyone here (#1)
Why didn't the "brainwashing" work in my case? Or yours? Or anyone else that frequents these kinds of websites? How is it that we value freedom over conformity? How did we escape?
#6. To: christine (#0)
#7. To: christine (#0)
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the Abasement Matrix
#8. To: PSUSA, robin (#1)
PSUSA: Why didn't the "brainwashing" work in my case? Or yours? Or anyone elses that frequents these kinds of websites? How is it that we value freedom over conformity? How did we escape?
#9. To: Original_Intent, PSUSA (#8)
#10. To: robin, Hayek Fan (#9)
#11. To: Original_Intent (#10)
#12. To: PSUSA (#1)
I am not a feminist, homosexual, straight, bisexual, trysexual, liberal, conservative, libertarian, secular humanist, "christian"
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144
#13. To: robin (#11)
Who said I do? I see I cannot trust the CEO of HealthNet, he likes to cancel health coverage to people who get sick.
I'm trying to look at all possibilities and see what would work better than one that leaves 45 million Americans (8 million are children) w/o any coverage.
From the 1st Single Payer link I gave you above: Single Payer would modify how doctors are paid, how hospitals calculate their costs and budgets, and how much prescription drugs cost in the United States.
I would trust any one state over the federal govt and Single Payer sounds less govt intrusive than universal.
Every nation in EU and Scandinavia has better health care than America. Some are especially better than others. And they all cost less than ours.
Private companies still provide coverage in Switzerland.
Germany has had a health care system since Otto von Bismarck, in the 1880s.
#14. To: Original_Intent, robin (#13)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#15. To: PSUSA (#3)
#16. To: PSUSA (#3)
That is what I dont understand; how are we able to break free? Where did it start? How was it done?
#17. To: christine (#0)
Communist this and Communist that, duh!
#18. To: DrStrange (#17)
DrStrange
#19. To: Original_Intent (#13)
I'm trying to look at all possibilities and see what would work better than one that leaves 45 million Americans (8 million are children) w/o any coverage.
#20. To: noone222, DrStrange (#18)
for a blind commie, ignorant to the blended form of fascist- communism being promoted in D.C.
#21. To: Original_Intent (#13)
Otto Von Bismarck was an Autocrat and there was not an ounce of charity in his actions - it was to cement STATE CONTROL over intimate aspects of life.
#22. To: DrStrange (#17)
#23. To: DrStrange (#17)
#24. To: Dakmar (#23)
I don't see a damned bit of difference between communism and fascism, both are top-down totalitarian systems which profit the select few at the expense of the vast majority.
#25. To: robin, Hayek Fan (#19)
Single-payer removes the employer-paid insurance from the equation.
#26. To: Dakmar (#23)
Even if a communist government were set up as advertised, it goes against human nature to work with little or no reward, the same principle that made slavery unworkable. As people become dissatisfied, it requires more and more resources to keep them under control, and at some point those requirements exceed those necessary to produce food and other necessities. China will soon learn this lesson, and will either begin making reforms or will collapse. The US is in the same boat with our gigantic prison population and the growth of internal surveillance. I don't see reform on the horizon, so it seems collapse is inevitable. Call it whatever you want, but an all-powerful state inevitably collapses under its own weight.
#27. To: Dakmar (#23)
#28. To: Original_Intent (#25)
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#29. To: Original_Intent (#25)
#30. To: _______ (#29)
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
By the time we go full boat commie, I'll be long dead thanks to people who refuse to buy carbon credits for their 60s muscle cars.
#32. To: Dakmar (#31)
UNBRAINWASH YOURSELF
I've already said too much.
#33. To: MUDDOG (#32)
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy,
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray,
You may call me anything but no matter what you say
You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
#34. To: Dakmar (#33)
I've already said too much.
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