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Title: 6th Closed Door Session of Congress in 176 Years
Source: email
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Published: Apr 5, 2008
Author: n/a
Post Date: 2008-04-05 14:44:42 by christine
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Comments: 6

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009;
the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse;
advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government;
the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84);
the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses;
the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest;
the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool);
the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress were forbidden to reveal what was discussed.

See House Holds Closed Session to Discuss Surveillance Bill:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/house-holds-closed-sessio_n_91490.html; House Approves New Eavesdropping Rules:
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2008Mar14/0,4675,TerroristSurveillance,00.html; International Experts Foresee Collapse of U.S. Economy: http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=918803

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See: Beginning of Martial Law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=begEaAe4XYE

Preparation of martial law in the USA has begun.
Is our country turning into Fascism? What are WE going to do about it? Can anything below be denied?

1) The president asserts the right to ignore part or all of laws passed by the national legislature.
2) Massive warrantless searches.
3) The president and other officials regularly lie to you.
4) Fraudulent election counts.
5) Government monitoring of letters, emails, phone calls and checking accounts.
6) Secret courts.
7) A government subservient to the interests of the country's largest corporations.
8) Use of torture on prisoners.
9) Courts that support presidential use of unconstitutional powers.
10) Massive spying on citizens, especially those involved in political dissent.
11) A government that uses words like democracy, freedom and peace while engaging in acts dramatically at odds with such words.
12) Government agencies or officials declaring themselves exempt from portions of the law or constitution.
13) Creation of watch lists, no-fly lists and similar exclusionary documents.
14) National ID cards.
15) Growing number of citizens incarcerated for a growing number of offenses. 16) Massive use of cameras to spy on citizens.
17) A media supportive of, or obsequious towards, the government in covering its police state activities.
18) Security bubble around government leaders' public appearances including pre selected audiences and limit on proximity of protests.
19) Disarming of citizenry.
20) Dissent characterized as disloyal by government and its supporting media.
21) Increasing government control over private behavior.
22) Lack of legal recourse to stop illegal government actions.
23) Prison without trial and arrests without charges.
24) It is difficult to borrow books from libraries pertaining to controversial subjects such as fascism.
25) Transfer of powers from legislatures to executive.
26) Assassinations of popular public figures.
27) Expansion of prisons and laws that lead people to prisons.
28) President claims right to make war whenever he wants.
29) Words misused to mean their opposite: i.e. peace for war, democracy for fascism.
30) The president sets himself up as the sole moral authority for the entire country, using his personal beliefs as the basis on which to declare what is 'good' and what is 'evil.'
31) Federal takeover of functions formerly considered essential state or local responsibilities such as state militias and public education.
32) Creation of a mercenary military force used for foreign and domestic purposes.

The concentration camps have already been built HERE IN America.

FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders http://www.mindfully.org:80/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm Un hidden Agendas: Off To Camp FEMA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTvPljNxYTI&NR=1 Detention Center, concentration camp? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqi123hBw2A&NR=1 Concentration Camps being built for U.S citizens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y&NR=1 Concentration Camp In Texas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYxTly-yo8&NR=1 FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA&NR=1 FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4&NR=1 Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006 http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=v9Ut-t7k_zY&NR=1 NEW WORLD ORDER OF FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN USA EXPOSED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlKg5ZXPu0&NR=1 FEMA camp Chicago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0da_83BzqM&NR=1


Poster Comment: The person from whom I received this information said that this meeting was confirmed to him by Norman in Ron Paul's Washington office.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Quite a laundry list for those gutless turds.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-05   15:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

I read and posted that it was only the 4th time.

They pretended it was about surveillance, but no one believed that.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-05   15:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Last week's session (Th 3/13/08) was only the 6th time in the last 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public.

Actually, it is the sixth time the House has had a closed door session in since 1825, or 182+ years. The Senate has done so 54 times since 1929. It is the routine procedure followed when CLASSIFIED or otherwise sensitive information is discussed.

House closed door sessions

Reason........ Date(s)
03/13/2008... Electronic Surveillance of Terror Suspects
07/17/1983... U.S. support for paramilitary operations in Nicaragua
02/25/1980... Involvement of Cuba and communist countries in Nicaragua
06/20/1979... Implementing the Panama Canal Act of 1979
05/27/1830... Trade between the U.S. and Great Britain
12/27/1825... Relations with Indian tribes

They also may exclude the public from Senate sessions when they conduct business with the President, but that is called Executive Session.

www.rules.house.gov/ruleprec/110th.pdf

House Rule XVII, Clause 9

Secret sessions

9. When confidential communications are received from the President, or when the Speaker or a Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner informs the House that he has communications that he believes ought to be kept secret for the present, the House shall be cleared of all persons except the Members, Delegates, Resident Commissioner, and officers of the House for the reading of such communications, and debates and proceedings thereon, unless otherwise ordered by the House.

rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule21.php

Standing Rules of the Senate
RULE XXI
SESSION WITH CLOSED DOORS

1. On a motion made and seconded to close the doors of the Senate, on the discussion of any business which may, in the opinion of a Senator, require secrecy, the Presiding Officer shall direct the galleries to be cleared; and during the discussion of such motion the doors shall remain closed.

2. When the Senate meets in closed session, any applicable provisions of rules XXIX and XXXI, including the confidentiality of information shall apply to any information and to the conduct of any debate transacted.

Standing Rules of the Senate
RULE XXIX
EXECUTIVE SESSIONS

1. When the President of the United States shall meet the Senate in the Senate Chamber for the consideration of Executive business, he shall have a seat on the right of the Presiding Officer. When the Senate shall be convened by the President of the United States to any other place, the Presiding Officer of the Senate and the Senators shall attend at the place appointed, with the necessary officers of the Senate.

2. When acting upon confidential or Executive business, unless the same shall be considered in open Executive session, the Senate Chamber shall be cleared of all persons except the Secretary, the Assistant Secretary, the Principal Legislative Clerk, the Parliamentarian, the Executive Clerk, the Minute and Journal Clerk, the Sergeant at Arms, the Secretaries to the Majority and the Minority, and such other officers as the Presiding Officer shall think necessary; and all such officers shall be sworn to secrecy.

3. All confidential communications made by the President of the United States to the Senate shall be by the Senators and the officers of the Senate kept secret; and all treaties which may be laid before the Senate, and all remarks, votes, and proceedings thereon shall also be kept secret, until the Senate shall, by their resolution, take off the injunction of secrecy.

4. Whenever the injunction of secrecy shall be removed from any part of the proceedings of the Senate in closed Executive or legislative session, the order of the Senate removing the same shall be entered in the Legislative Journal as well as in the Executive Journal, and shall be published in the Congressional Record under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate.

5. Any Senator, officer, or employee of the Senate who shall disclose the secret or confidential business or proceedings of the Senate, including the business and proceedings of the committees, subcommittees, and offices of the Senate, shall be liable, if a Senator, to suffer expulsion from the body; and if an officer or employee, to dismissal from the service of the Senate, and to punishment for contempt.

6. Whenever, by the request of the Senate or any committee thereof, any documents or papers shall be communicated to the Senate by the President or the head of any department relating to any matter pending in the Senate, the proceedings in regard to which are secret or confidential under the rules, said documents and papers shall be considered as confidential, and shall not be disclosed without leave of the Senate.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-05   16:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: nolu_chan (#3)

thanks for the info, nolu. what's your opinion about these secret meetings? i thought this was a government for, of, and by the people? /sarcasm

christine  posted on  2008-04-05   17:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4)

thanks for the info, nolu. what's your opinion about these secret meetings?

Classified information cannot be discussed in a public forum. If a congress critter does so on the floor, he or she may be expelled.

When the Executive Department classifies something, the Legislature is required to treat it as such. So, there must be some allowance for non-public discussion. While there is a necessity for such things, it is subject to abuse, particularly by the Executive improperly classifying something not for national security, but to cover executive butt.

The session of March 13 went 58 minutes from 10:11pm to 11:09pm.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-05   19:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#1)

Quite a laundry list for those gutless turds.

end game for a government that was conceived in secrecy and contrary to the mandate given to the ones who planted the cross almost 401 years ago

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-05   19:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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