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Title: What Obama Could Have Said About His Pastor Rev. Wright, a True Patriot
Source: Counterpunch
URL Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/korb04052008.html
Published: Apr 6, 2008
Author: Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss
Post Date: 2008-04-06 07:01:57 by Zoroaster
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Comments: 64

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What Obama Could Have Said About His Pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a True Patriot By LAWRENCE KORB and IAN MOSS

In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President John F. Kennedy's challenge to, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," gave up his student deferment, left college in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines. In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)

The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to the Navy's premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital, as a member of the commander in chief's medical team, and helped care for President Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery. For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House awarded him three letters of commendation. What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy not many years after the two branches began to become integrated.

While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President Dick Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/sailor, received five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and one for being a prospective father. Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay in college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family connections.

Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something or those who merely talk about their love of the country?

After leaving the service of his country, the young African-American finished his final year of college, entered the seminary, was ordained as a minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of America's biggest cities.__This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retiring pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, who has been in the news for comments he made over the last three decades.

Since these comments became public we have heard criticisms, condemnations, denouncements and rejections of his comments and him. We've seen on television, in a seemingly endless loop, sound bites of a select few of Rev. Wright's many sermons. Some of the Wright's comments are inexcusable and inappropriate and should be condemned, but in calling This him "unpatriotic," let us not forget that this is a man who gave up six of the most productive years of his life to serve his country.

How many of Wright's detractors, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly to name but a few, volunteered for service, and did so under the often tumultuous circumstances of a newly integrated armed forces and a society in the midst of a civil rights struggle? Not many. While words do count, so do actions. Let us not forget that, for whatever Rev. Wright may have said over the last 30 years, he has demonstrated his patriotism.

Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss are, respectively, Navy and Marine Corps veterans. They work at The Center For American Progress. Korb served as assistant secretary of Defense in the Reagan administration.

This piece ran in the Chicago Tribune on April 3, 2008.

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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)

Ah, that is ancient history. What he has been saying recently and more importantly what he has been saying while Obama has been going to his church is highly racist. Obama will never get elected becasue of this. It won't happen. McNuts will be president before that happens.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-06   7:08:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: RickyJ (#1)

What he has been saying recently and more importantly what he has been saying while Obama has been going to his church is highly racist.

Oh really? How's that? Can you provide some example of 'highly racist' statements? Not that there's anything wrong with racism. Racism is as legitimate, if not more so because it comes to one naturally, than globalism or collectivism/socialism.

Anyways, what I heard from that priest was that God was not going to bless America but God was more likely to damn America for burning 100,000 innocent people in Hiroshima or for killing a million Iraqis. Compare that with the so-called 'right-winger evangelists' who expect God to damn and punish America for performing abortions and for glorifying anal intercourse.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-06   7:43:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Not that there's anything wrong with racism. Racism is as legitimate,

but racism is only acceptable by persons of color.

christine  posted on  2008-04-06   10:21:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#8)

You are talking about the public expression of racism. It is true that it is generally viewed as unacceptable for Whites to express racial pride and for anyone 'mainstream' to promote or approve of even voluntary racial segregation. While it is true that 'public life' is important, it is not the most important aspect of most people lives. Privately, Whites are as racist as anyone else - I believe that racism is a natural behavior, a lot more healthy than, let's say, homosexuality. It's only that, to their shame, some Whites are more reluctant to express their views when anyone other than close friends and family is present - and I plea guilty to this myself. This is unhealthy because it creates tensions that become anger and are likely to resolve themselves through violence or mental disturbances.

Regarding certain people claiming that they can't support Obama BECAUSE his pastor said something 'racist' (it was really anti-statist from what I heard), it's possible that they just don't want to see a semi-Negro in the White House but they are afraid to say it.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-06   10:35:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#16)

For those of us how lived outside the US the term racism is a American invention which has been exported to many other parts of the globe it is an artificial construct designed to control the dispersal of wealth the support for Obama is more a case of "white guilt" I've seen this before in South Africa where a people shamed into silence for being politically incorrect voted for their own destruction

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   10:46:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robnoel (#17)

Our own destruction? Seems to me, it's much clearer that a vote for McCain's policy of perpetual war is a vote for this country's destruction.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-06   10:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: aristeides (#18)

McCain as you pointed out is for perpetual war so is Hillary who in my opinion will win based on the fact that the Jewish Lobby has more supper delegates that favour her over Obama in other words either way Israel will decide who becomes the next president and they are proud to boast about it

Dozens of Jewish Super-Delegates May Hold Key to Democratic Race Campaign Marks a Communal Coming of Age in Party Politics By Jennifer Siegel Thu. Mar 20, 2008

According to a new survey conducted by the Forward, a disproportionately large share of the Democratic party’s super-delegates are Jewish. Many of them have declared their support for Hillary Clinton, accounting for more than 15% of her current backers.

www.forward.com/articles/12998/

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   10:58:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robnoel (#22)

McCain as you pointed out is for perpetual war so is Hillary who in my opinion will win based on the fact that the Jewish Lobby has more supper delegates that favour her over Obama in other words either way Israel will decide who becomes the next president and they are proud to boast about it

Well, those sound to me like arguments for favoring the nomination and election of Obama.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-06   11:00:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: aristeides (#23)

For Obama to win he will have to embrace Israel which will inflame the folks who subscribe to the "black liberation theology" he will be seen and called a "Uncle Tom" push comes to shove although Americans maybe ready for a women president they will choke when it comes to pulling the lever for a black one

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   11:08:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: robnoel (#31)

although Americans maybe ready for a women president they will choke when it comes to pulling the lever for a black one

If, as I suspect, Obama gets the nomination, we will get to see whether or not you are right.

Since, as you say, Hillary is as much for perpetual war as McCain, I don't see why Americans shouldn't be given the chance of voting for a candidate who seems to be against it.

Political realities probably do dictate that Obama will be making pro-Israel statements during the campaign, as you say, but it is possible to believe that, in making those statements, he's only paying lip service to political realities. I see no reason to believe Hillary and McCain do not wholeheartedly believe in supporting Israel down the line, even including Israeli aggression.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-06   11:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#34)

Have you read this by Shelby Steele like Obama has a white mother

The Identity Card By SHELBY STEELE www.time.com/time/magazin...le/0,9171,1689619,00.html

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   11:25:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: robnoel (#39)

I take it you're suggesting a President Obama will pursue the agenda of black identity politics. For all I know, that may be correct.

Even if it is, that would be a far lesser evil than a continuation of the Bush/Cheney/neocon/McCain/Hillary policy of perpetual war. That way lies national suicide.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-06   11:30:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: aristeides (#41)

I take it you're suggesting a President Obama will pursue the agenda of black identity politics. For all I know, that may be correct.

That may actually be a good thing, as working class blacks are hurt most by illegal immigration.

Dakmar  posted on  2008-04-06   11:37:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Dakmar (#47) (Edited)

The only real hope we have and its a long shot is McCain breaks down and has a senior moment on national TV prior to the Republican Convention forcing the party to go with Ron Paul let me add that if the economy goes into a death spiral between now and September Ron Paul has a even greater chance

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   11:47:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: robnoel (#49) (Edited)

LOL - so Obama can't get the WH job unless 'they' let him but, somehow, Ron Paul just might take it as the official GOP 'lady in waiting'. Oh, and that is called 'real hope'.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-06   11:50:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#50)

Do you really still think the "people" decide who becomes President?

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-06   11:52:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#53. To: robnoel (#52)

How do you think FDR became president? How do you think JFK became president?

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-06 11:56:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: robnoel (#52)

Do you really still think the "people" decide who becomes President?

In a '2-party system'? It's the parties who put forward a nominee and, then, 'the people' get to pick on of the 2, strikingly similar 'choices'. In the end, like the saloon's owner's wife in 'The Blues Brothers' said, we got BOTH kinds of music here: Country AND Western.

In today's cycle, we already know who is going to represent 'Western' - a senile madman. On the 'Country' side, we got Billy's ultra-feminist and somewhat mental wife and some semi-black guy who came from nowhere but looks and acts halfway decent.

Of the 3, I'll pick 'halfway decent' any time. So, now, 'the people' generally don't decide makes it to the finals but, in this instance, there is a chance that someone not completely destructive might make it. Then, if he does, the people do get to pick one of the 2 and they might pick the right one if they don't act stupid, like they did in 2004 when they re-elected Bush.

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