[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Mike Thune calls Netanyahu First

Former CIA Agent "Iran's plot to kill Trump doesn't ADD UP"

Trump Nominates RFK Jr. For HHS Secretary

Tyrus: I wish this was a joke, but it's not

The free world’s most potent weapons against China have been crippled

The free world’s most potent weapons against China have been crippled

GOD BLESS THE USA - TRUMP MUSIC VIDEO

Landmark flight: US tanker refuels Russian jets in Malaysia

AIex Jones Studio Seized! lnfowars Website Pulled From Internet! But He's NOT Going Away!

Gutfeld: This was Kamala's Achilles' heel

BREAKING! DEEP STATE SWAMP RATS TRYING TO SABOTAGE TRUMP FROM THE INSIDE | Redacted w Clayton Morris [Livestream in progress]

The Media Flips Over Tulsi & Matt Gaetz, Biden & Trump Take A Pic, & Famous People Leave Twitter!

4 arrested in California car insurance scam: 'Clearly a human in a bear suit'

Silk Road Founder Trusts Trump To 'Honor His Pledge' For Commutation

"You DESERVED to LOSE the Senate, the House, and the Presidency!" - Jordan Peterson

"Grand Political Theatre"; FBI Raids Home Of Polymarket CEO; Seize Phone, Electronics

Schoolhouse Limbo: How Low Will Educators Go To Better Grades?

BREAKING: U.S. Army Officers Made a Desperate Attempt To Break Out of The Encirclement in KURSK

Trumps team drawing up list of Pentagon officers to fire, sources say

Israeli Military Planning To Stay in Gaza Through 2025

Hezbollah attacks Israeli army's Tel Aviv HQ twice in one day

People Can't Stop Talking About Elon's Secret Plan For MSNBC And CNN Is Totally Panicking

Tucker Carlson UNLOADS on Diddy, Kamala, Walz, Kimmel, Rich Girls, Conspiracy Theories, and the CIA!

"We have UFO technology that enables FREE ENERGY" Govt. Whistleblowers

They arrested this woman because her son did WHAT?

Parody Ad Features Company That Offers to Cryogenically Freeze Liberals for Duration of TrumpÂ’s Presidency

Elon and Vivek BEGIN Reforming Government, Media LOSES IT

Dear Border Czar: This Nonprofit Boasts A List Of 400 Companies That Employ Migrants

US Deficit Explodes: Blowout October Deficit Means 2nd Worst Start To US Fiscal Year On Record

Gaetz Resigns 'Effective Immediately' After Trump AG Pick; DC In Full Blown Panic


Science/Tech
See other Science/Tech Articles

Title: Coming soon: superfast internet
Source: The Sunday Times
URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece
Published: Apr 6, 2008
Author: Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
Post Date: 2008-04-06 19:51:54 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 299
Comments: 24

THE internet could soon be made obsolete. The scientists who pioneered it have now built a lightning-fast replacement capable of downloading entire feature films within seconds.

At speeds about 10,000 times faster than a typical broadband connection, “the grid” will be able to send the entire Rolling Stones back catalogue from Britain to Japan in less than two seconds.

The latest spin-off from Cern, the particle physics centre that created the web, the grid could also provide the kind of power needed to transmit holographic images; allow instant online gaming with hundreds of thousands of players; and offer high-definition video telephony for the price of a local call.

David Britton, professor of physics at Glasgow University and a leading figure in the grid project, believes grid technologies could “revolutionise” society. “With this kind of computing power, future generations will have the ability to collaborate and communicate in ways older people like me cannot even imagine,” he said.

The power of the grid will become apparent this summer after what scientists at Cern have termed their “red button” day - the switching-on of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the new particle accelerator built to probe the origin of the universe. The grid will be activated at the same time to capture the data it generates.

Cern, based near Geneva, started the grid computing project seven years ago when researchers realised the LHC would generate annual data equivalent to 56m CDs - enough to make a stack 40 miles high.

This meant that scientists at Cern - where Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the web in 1989 - would no longer be able to use his creation for fear of causing a global collapse.

This is because the internet has evolved by linking together a hotchpotch of cables and routing equipment, much of which was originally designed for telephone calls and therefore lacks the capacity for high-speed data transmission.

By contrast, the grid has been built with dedicated fibre optic cables and modern routing centres, meaning there are no outdated components to slow the deluge of data. The 55,000 servers already installed are expected to rise to 200,000 within the next two years.

Professor Tony Doyle, technical director of the grid project, said: “We need so much processing power, there would even be an issue about getting enough electricity to run the computers if they were all at Cern. The only answer was a new network powerful enough to send the data instantly to research centres in other countries.”

That network, in effect a parallel internet, is now built, using fibre optic cables that run from Cern to 11 centres in the United States, Canada, the Far East, Europe and around the world.

One terminates at the Rutherford Appleton laboratory at Harwell in Oxfordshire.

From each centre, further connections radiate out to a host of other research institutions using existing high-speed academic networks.

It means Britain alone has 8,000 servers on the grid system – so that any student or academic will theoretically be able to hook up to the grid rather than the internet from this autumn.

Ian Bird, project leader for Cern’s high-speed computing project, said grid technology could make the internet so fast that people would stop using desktop computers to store information and entrust it all to the internet.

“It will lead to what’s known as cloud computing, where people keep all their information online and access it from anywhere,” he said.

Computers on the grid can also transmit data at lightning speed. This will allow researchers facing heavy processing tasks to call on the assistance of thousands of other computers around the world. The aim is to eliminate the dreaded “frozen screen” experienced by internet users who ask their machine to handle too much information.

The real goal of the grid is, however, to work with the LHC in tracking down nature’s most elusive particle, the Higgs boson. Predicted in theory but never yet found, the Higgs is supposed to be what gives matter mass.

The LHC has been designed to hunt out this particle - but even at optimum performance it will generate only a few thousand of the particles a year. Analysing the mountain of data will be such a large task that it will keep even the grid’s huge capacity busy for years to come.

Although the grid itself is unlikely to be directly available to domestic internet users, many telecoms providers and businesses are already introducing its pioneering technologies. One of the most potent is so-called dynamic switching, which creates a dedicated channel for internet users trying to download large volumes of data such as films. In theory this would give a standard desktop computer the ability to download a movie in five seconds rather than the current three hours or so.

Additionally, the grid is being made available to dozens of other academic researchers including astronomers and molecular biologists.

It has already been used to help design new drugs against malaria, the mosquito-borne disease that kills 1m people worldwide each year. Researchers used the grid to analyse 140m compounds - a task that would have taken a standard internet-linked PC 420 years.

“Projects like the grid will bring huge changes in business and society as well as science,” Doyle said.

“Holographic video conferencing is not that far away. Online gaming could evolve to include many thousands of people, and social networking could become the main way we communicate.

“The history of the internet shows you cannot predict its real impacts but we know they will be huge.”


Comments

* Have your say

I want to be isolated within a capsule, partially submerged in a gelatinous substance. I want to exist in a semi-vegetative state and be fed intravenously while my physical mind is wired into a holographic, grid-based collective, where it will be bombarded with archetypal images of what it's like to be human.

But I do not want to pay more than $39.99 per month for this, no installation fee, and I want first 3 months free if they don't include HBO.

MacGuffin, Panama City, Florida

Yeh, so I'm thinking, being taken to court to stop them playing with their new toy, and suddenly, they have this carrot to dangle in front of us to show that they really are the good guys. do I sound a little sceptical? Oh I do hope so.

They're using the LHC to do experiments, to find stuff out, as in, stuff they don't know, or at least don't know for certain, yet they can tell us, apparently with absolute certainty, that none of the fears that have been voiced, will happen. I'm starting to sense something here, a teeny wee touch of arrogance maybe?

Jimmy, Edinburgh, Scotland

it will probably be mainly used for porn, just like the one we've got now.... so much for greatness !!

monica, london,

Let's call it "The Matrix"!

steve, Klamath Falls,

Why don't we just let machines do all our thinking for us ? ( ie. The next Big Thing)

H.T. Benderski, McMasterville, Canada


Poster Comment:

The internet was developed by and for the military. There were reasons for the way it works now.

from March 18, 2003:

Caltech computer scientists develop FAST protocol to speed up Internet
Caltech computer scientists have developed a new data transfer protocol for the Internet fast enough to download a full-length DVD movie in less than five seconds.

The protocol is called FAST, standing for Fast Active queue management Scalable Transmission Control Protocol (TCP). The researchers have achieved a speed of 8,609 megabits per second (Mbps) by using 10 simultaneous flows of data over routed paths, the largest aggregate throughput ever accomplished in such a configuration. More importantly, the FAST protocol sustained this speed using standard packet size, stably over an extended period on shared networks in the presence of background traffic, making it adaptable for deployment on the world's high-speed production networks.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: robin (#0)

it will probably be mainly used for porn, just like the one we've got now.... so much for greatness !!

funny :P

christine  posted on  2008-04-06   20:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin, christine, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz (#0)

Internet II wasn't selling - because the threat of censorship and barring such sites as this and any alternative news sites putting out information the controllers do not want the "hoi polloi" aware of would be blocked as "hate and disinformation". So, they had to come up with something that would make it attractive to the ill informed and thus willing to accept the "access limitations" that will come with it.

So, we get a superfast Internet to convince people to switch and thus kill the old internet with its awful load of truth, exposure of the controllers, etc., .... No the new Superfast Internet will feature porn but it won't feature honest uncensored news and information.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-06   20:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#0)

older people like me cannot even imagine

They will come no more, the old men with beautiful manners.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-06   20:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2)

No the new Superfast Internet will feature porn but it won't feature honest uncensored news and information.

what a completely depressing proposition.

christine  posted on  2008-04-06   21:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#2)

No the new Superfast Internet will feature porn but it won't feature honest uncensored news and information.

If honest people can plug into it, then the truth will be found on it. You can count on the anti-establishment hacker community to see to that.

It'll be no different than what we have now.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-06   21:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)

It'll be no different than what we have now.

just much faster - I'm not sure compression algorithms will be so necessary

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-06   21:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

I'm not sure compression algorithms will be so necessary

At those speeds, compression won't be needed for transmission, but they would be needed for storage.

I'd expect with these huge xmission speeds, the habit of saving what you download would mean your 300 gig drives would fill up in 2 evenings of casual movie downloading. While people would be forced to break the habit of saving data, they will still not trust the net to store their most favorite movies. I'd expect demand for far high storage needs to create a market for much bigger HD's accordingly. Watch for the 1, 2 & 4 terabyte disk (1T = 1000 gigs) to come out.

This may create a first threat for encryption security. The ability to harvest CPU time from 10's of thousands of PC's at one time via this ultra high speed means an organized effort can crack most current encryption.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-06   21:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)

but they would be needed for storage.

true

This may create a first threat for encryption security. The ability to harvest CPU time from 10's of thousands of PC's at one time via this ultra high speed means an organized effort can crack most current encryption.

It will bring new challenges. When the FAST news from CalTech broke (see link above in poster comment) I was working on a video conferencing set top box for a small company; I saw their time was limited when I read that article.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-06   21:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent, ALL (#2)

Faster would be nice.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-04-07   0:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: wudidiz (#9)

Faster would be nice.

I agree, but it is a two edged sword. What does faster mean if it comes at the expense of freedom of expression and access to "unapproved" thought and information?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-07   1:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#4)

No the new Superfast Internet will feature porn but it won't feature honest uncensored news and information.

what a completely depressing proposition.

Agreed. So, if they try it we'll have to fight it. If they try to "clean up" the Internet at the expense of free access to information then we have to be willing to make a really big fuss. REALLY BIG.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-07   1:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#5)

If honest people can plug into it, then the truth will be found on it. You can count on the anti-establishment hacker community to see to that.

It'll be no different than what we have now.

I hope you are right, but we are dealing with psychotic control freaks. I am certain that the existing Internet is driving them buggy as it is helping to expose the seamy underside of the control grid they are trying to put in place.

"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-07   1:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#10)

What does faster mean if it comes at the expense of freedom of expression and access to "unapproved" thought and information?

Certainly nothing, but I'm hoping that truth will prevail. It always has before, hasn't it?

I mean here we are, thousands of years of bullshit and we still have the truth.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-04-07   1:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#12)

I hope you are right, but we are dealing with psychotic control freaks.

Psychotic control freaks don't control hackers.

The cat's out of the bag. The internet is here. If they quash it as much as required to suppress the truth, then they'd also shutdown internet commerce.

Even the PTB's can't do that. Commerce is needed to keep the masses pacified.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-07   1:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#13)

The truth is a potent weapon - which is why the psychotic shitheads trying to dominate our world are so afraid of it. Yes the truth will eventually out, BUT that does not necessarily mean immediately.

I am cynical because I have seen the operation of these cruds ongoing for the last 15 years or so since I really began to wake up to what was going on. If they can set up a parallel system that gets rid of the offensive content i.e., the truth, they will try to do it. Of course there will be a good cover legend for the sucker class but it will, have no fear, be aimed at shutting down the real information revolution. Emphasis on REVOLUTION.

Viva La Resistance'!!!!!

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-07   1:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#14)

The cat's out of the bag. The internet is here. If they quash it as much as required to suppress the truth, then they'd also shutdown internet commerce.

I don't necessarily agree. There are variety of mechanisms that could be used to shut down "troublmakers" and it might be that more than one would be used.

We will see but color me cynical.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-07   1:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#16)

There are variety of mechanisms that could be used to shut down "troublmakers" and it might be that more than one would be used.

I can't think of a single one.

As long as it's possible to make information available on the net, the truth will be posted on it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-07   1:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pinguinite (#17)

I can't think of a single one.

Domain registry control.

Access fees.

Leaning on ISPs.

I am sure they are working overtime trying figure out a way to do it.

Control might not be absolute, but shut down, or wall off, "troublemakers" and you reduce their reach.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-04-07   1:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)

Domain registry control.

Probably in the form of increased fees.

It will come under the guise of shutting down the porn vendors and kiddie queers. We have to keep our children safe, so we have to up the registration fees to something like, oh, say $3000 a year to keep the bad guys off the web...

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-04-07   1:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#18)

Their tactic must allow general internet commerce to continue.

Domain registry control.

Domains are not required to post internet content. If the choke off domain names, static IP addresses can be used (see:

http://207.114.84.211/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=77472

)

Or even if domain names are restricted, it will create a market for bunches of separate web pages to be accessible via a single domain name such as anticensorship.com.ec/freedom4um.com. (Domains properly registered by foreign entities would be outside of the US ability to restrict.

Access fees.

They cannot make it so expensive to post web content that it degrades internet commerce. Or if they did, a black market would open up. Countries and states like Switzerland and Nevada and Islands that traditionally offered secure and safe private banking and/or business do so because they lack traditional natural resources to offer the world. Those same places would offer private internet services.

If they make net access for home users so expensive people stop using it, commerce goes down the tubes. Not an option.

Leaning on ISPs.

Then ISP's go international. The ones that don't go out of business.

Also as the saying goes "if they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns", ditto for the net. And the "outlaws" would be us.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-07   2:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Critter (#19)

We have to keep our children safe, so we have to up the registration fees to something like, oh, say $3000 a year to keep the bad guys off the web...

There are many countries that would welcome the stampede of business out of the US to register domains throughout the world.

You can be sure porn sites would be the first to set up shop elsewhere. Money just talks.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-07   2:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wudidiz (#13) (Edited)

Certainly nothing, but I'm hoping that truth will prevail. It always has before, hasn't it?

I mean here we are, thousands of years of bullshit and we still have the truth.

... good questions ... Has the truth always prevailed before ?

Thousands of years of bullshit and we "still have the truth" ...

I'm not sure ... looks like the truth takes a back seat to fraud.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-07   3:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#15)

'Viva La Resistance'!!!!!

'Viva La Resistance'!!!!!


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-04-07   3:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: noone222 (#22)

Thousands of years of bullshit and we "still have the truth" ...

I'm not sure ... looks like the truth takes a back seat to fraud.

It may look that way, but seems we at least still do have it.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-04-07   3:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]