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Title: McCain rebukes Democrats' views on Iraq withdrawal
Source: The Los Angeles Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/politic ... campaign8apr08,0,4538252.story
Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: Johanna Neuman, Los Angeles Times Staff
Post Date: 2008-04-07 13:43:12 by robin
Keywords: None
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Comments: 6

From the Los Angeles Times

McCain rebukes Democrats' views on Iraq withdrawal

In advance of Gen. Petraeus' testimony before Congress, the Republican candidate challenges Clinton and Obama to be open about the consequences of leaving too soon.

By Johanna Neuman Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

9:35 AM PDT, April 7, 2008

WASHINGTON — Republican John McCain, chiding his Democratic opponents for promising a hasty withdrawal from Iraq, said today that it was "imprudent and dangerous" to leave the combat zone too quickly.

"I do not believe that anyone should make promises as a candidate for president that they cannot keep if elected," he said. "To promise a withdrawal of our forces from Iraq, regardless of the calamitous consequences to the Iraqi people, our most vital interests and the future of the Middle East, is the height of irresponsibility" and "a failure of leadership."

In a preview of the political fireworks surrounding this week's Capitol Hill appearance by Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq, McCain challenged Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton to be honest about the consequences of withdrawal.

"Doing the right thing in the heat of a political campaign is not always the easiest thing," he said. "But when 4,000 Americans have given their lives so that America does not suffer the worst consequences of our failure in Iraq . . . we must put the nation's interests before our own ambitions."

Hailing last year's "surge" in U.S. troops as "a critical moment in our nation's history," McCain told the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Kansas that Congress should reject, as it did last year, calls for what he called "a reckless and irresponsible withdrawal of our forces just at the moment when they are succeeding."

The Arizona senator called on U.S. politicians to shun a policy of "withdraw and re-invade." And he called on Iraq to use its surplus budget funds to create jobs, and to encourage reconciliation between Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. "Much more needs to be done," he said. "Iraq's politicians need to know that we expect them to show the necessary leadership to rebuild their country, for only they can."

McCain did not predict how long U.S. troops would need to stay in Iraq, saying only that he hopes to withdraw them at the earliest opportunity and that security needs "will require that we keep a sufficient level of American forces in Iraq until security conditions" improve. During a New Hampshire town hall meeting in January, McCain said that U.S. troops might have to stay in Iraq for 100 years, prompting both Clinton and Obama to question his judgment.

Today, acknowledging that the situation in southern Iraq remains unsettled, McCain said that the U.S. troop buildup had produced a glimmer of "something approaching normal" in Iraq.

"We are no longer staring into the abyss of defeat, and we can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success," McCain said. "Success in Iraq is the establishment of a generally peaceful, stable, prosperous, democratic state that poses no threat to its neighbors and contributes to the defeat of terrorists."

With Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker to testify before Congress on Tuesday, all three presidential candidates will have an opportunity to ask questions -- McCain and Clinton on the Armed Services Committee in the morning, Obama on the Foreign Relations Committee in the afternoon.

Clinton famously told Petraeus when he appeared before the committee in September that his report on the progress in Iraq required "a willing suspension of disbelief." Obama, a freshman senator from Illinois, said Friday that he liked the question asked of Petraeus last time he appeared before the committee, posed by Virginia Sen. John W. Warner: "How has this effort in Iraq made us safer and how do we expect it will make us safer in the long run?"

The Clinton campaign, meanwhile, was picking up the pieces after Sunday's staff shake-up in which pollster Mark Penn was ousted as her chief strategist. Campaign manager Maggie Williams said today that Penn will continue "to provide polling and advice to the campaign," but that communications director Howard Wolfson and pollster Geoff Garin will direct the campaign's message.

In keeping with the new message focus, the New York senator today unveiled a $300-million-a-year proposal to increase government funding on breast cancer research. On "The Ellen DeGeneres Show," aired today, Clinton said she thinks the government should also fund research on racial disparities in diagnosis and treatment for the disease, which she hopes will be effectively cured within 10 years.

Meanwhile, Obama picked up the endorsement of another superdelegate -- Montana state legislator Margaret Campbell, the 69th superdelegate to back Obama since the Super Tuesday primaries on Feb. 5. During the same period, Clinton has a net loss of two superdelegates, with some 330 still uncommitted.

johanna.neuman@latimes.com

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#1. To: Brian S, aristeides, iconoclast, Elliott Jackalope, Arator, vast right wing conspiracy, nolu_chan (#0)

ping

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-07   13:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

John, figure out a way to pay for it. Otherwise, STFU. We're bleeding to death financially. I know economics is not your strong suit.

At least Old Man Bush went hat in hand to the Saudis and the other perfumed princes of the region and got them to pay for the first war. He even turned a slight profit, IIRC.

What's irresponsible is to turn one of the most prosperous nations of the world into a Third World country in only eight years because of your criminal attempted theft of Iraq's oil and your continually taking orders from Tel Aviv.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   13:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1)

ap.google.com/article/ALe...0Xx99P3jt2bEXw7gD8VT5IDG1

McCain: Democrats' stance on Iraq flawed

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Monday that calls from his Democratic rivals to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq stand as a "failure of leadership" as they are making promises they cannot keep.

Democrat Barack Obama said the failure rests with McCain's support for an open-ended occupation of Iraq.

Addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars, McCain criticized Obama and Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and insisted that last year's U.S. troop buildup in Iraq brought a glimmer of "something approaching normal" there, despite a recent outbreak of heavy fighting and a U.S. death toll that has surpassed 4,000.

"I do not believe that anyone should make promises as a candidate for president that they cannot keep if elected," McCain told the crowd.

"To promise a withdrawal of our forces from Iraq, regardless of the calamitous consequences to the Iraqi people, our most vital interests, and the future of the Middle East, is the height of irresponsibility," he said. "It is a failure of leadership."

McCain, the presidential nominee-in-waiting, is closely tied to the unpopular, 5-year-old war. McCain was a vocal advocate of the troop increase strategy eventually adopted by President Bush, and is seeking to convince people the strategy is working. He also argued that Iraq will need more money and aid for reconstruction.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-07   14:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#0)

"I do not believe that anyone should make promises as a candidate for president that they cannot keep if elected," he said.

dear god

christine  posted on  2008-04-07   14:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#0)

"To promise a withdrawal of our forces from Iraq, regardless of the calamitous consequences to the Iraqi people, our most vital interests and the future of the Middle East, is the height of irresponsibility" and "a failure of leadership."

OUR most vital interest is not in Iraq, or Iran.

"But when 4,000 Americans have given their lives so that America does not suffer the worst consequences of our failure in Iraq . . . we must put the nation's interests before our own ambitions."

Who gave their life "so that America does not suffer the worst consequences of our failure in Iraq?" What the heck are the worst consequences of failure in Iraq?

Hailing last year's "surge" in U.S. troops as "a critical moment in our nation's history,"

Yeah, the "surge" ranks right up there with D-Day.

The Arizona senator called on U.S. politicians to shun a policy of "withdraw and re-invade."

Yeah. We should withdraw. One pointless, idiotic invasion was enough. There is no reason to topple the evil dictator and rid the country of WMD again.

And he called on Iraq to use its surplus budget funds to....

Wait... IRAQ HAS SURPLUS BUDGET FUNDS???

"We are no longer staring into the abyss of defeat, and we can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success," McCain said. "Success in Iraq is the establishment of a generally peaceful, stable, prosperous, democratic state that poses no threat to its neighbors and contributes to the defeat of terrorists."

McCain must just be vacantly staring into space. Perhaps having the Green Zone leveled bit by bit is a genuine success. After five years, I am happy to see that McCain sees in Iraq, the establishment of a generally peaceful, stable, prosperous, democratic state. He must have some fine weed, indeed.

Obama, a freshman senator from Illinois, said Friday that he liked the question asked of Petraeus last time he appeared before the committee, posed by Virginia Sen. John W. Warner: "How has this effort in Iraq made us safer and how do we expect it will make us safer in the long run?"

I like that question too. The misbegotten effort in Iraq has made us less safe, and nowhere in the foreseeable future should we expect it to make us safer in the long run.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-07   15:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu_chan (#5)

The misbegotten effort in Iraq has made us less safe, and nowhere in the foreseeable future should we expect it to make us safer in the long run.

Not to mention instilling fear, hatred, and bewilderment worldwide.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-08   7:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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