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Title: Obama. I want him to win.
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Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:21:13 by christine
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so that either the O'philes or the O'phobes get the Op to say "I told you so."

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#21. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#16)

Obamer is unlikely to torture people, bomb

Any reason for adding the qualifier, "unlikely"?

Do you have some doubt?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-07   19:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)
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He may not be the bestest but he is CLEARLY and BY FAR the better man.

Ron Paul *may* qualify for bestest, which speaks volumes about the standard politicians.

As for the worstest, McCain could very well qualify.

On the ongoing argument of Cain vs Obama vs Hillary, we already know Cain will be horrible. With Obama, we can at least afford some doubts that he'll be as bad as Cain.

Whoever wins will inherit a disaster though, and I predict will be only a 1 term pres.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-07   19:27:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)

no, vast, you misunderstand. he's not my choice. my choice is Ron Paul. i'll never again vote for a candidate from either of the two parties. i said that i hope that Obama is the selection so that we have the opportunity to see who is right and who is wrong about him.

and let me assure you that if i am wrong, i will happily accept the 'i told you SOs'.

christine  posted on  2008-04-07   19:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#21)

Oh, but, of course, you can never fully trust a human. I maintain 'unlikely' but I would not go as far as 'very unlikely'. He MIGHT order some bombs dropped on Sudan. It's not likely but it's possible. However, I can't see him considering nukeing anyone while McCain probably dreams of mushroom clouds and Hillary would view dropping the big one as a way of her claiming her manhood.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-07   19:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#23)

I agree that Mr. Paul is the better man. However, he dropped out, or so it seems. He refused to listen to my advice of going independent BEFORE the primaries. We still have Bob Barr, a man for whom I have an enormous respect. I might vote for Mr. Barr if he manages to get himself registered in PA. We shall see.

And, a gentle reminder - you said you would never support one of the '2 parties'. Well... Mr. Paul would have been a candidate of the GOPs (one of the 2 parties) had he won the GOP nomination.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-07   19:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#24)

All three will hurt America. It is just a matter of which poison you wish to have used on you.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-04-07   19:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#24)

Oh, but, of course, you can never fully trust a human.

True. They've been lying ever since they developed speech.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-07   19:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pinguinite (#22)

Whoever wins will inherit a disaster though, and I predict will be only a 1 term pres.

That could be brought about several ways.

Turned out of office by voters, highly unlikely.

Or, the new President may decide to stay on permanent.

Or, the new President may be expendable.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-07   19:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#25)

And, a gentle reminder - you said you would never support one of the '2 parties'. Well... Mr. Paul would have been a candidate of the GOPs (one of the 2 parties) had he won the GOP nomination.

yep, you're right. funny, i forgot that.

christine  posted on  2008-04-07   19:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#25)

And, a gentle reminder - you said you would never support one of the '2 parties'. Well... Mr. Paul would have been a candidate of the GOPs (one of the 2 parties) had he won the GOP nomination.

To the tower with YOU. The O-train is NOT of a two party system... they are on the Messiah Ride, therefore different.. because they say so!

He walks on water, he parteth the sea! He takes away civil liberties for me and thee, he is, ******sound the trumpets in glory********, deliverance from eeeeevil. He stands against the powerful for the hungry, the weak against the strong, the haves against the have nots, ummmmmmmmmmm. wait. (put soros back behind the curtain). He's a bailtrazer, and no pedestal is high enough! He can calm the seas of racial strife, (take down the Wright blacklight posters please) he helps the rich to eat the poor. He's for social justice and hybrids! He for change, and he means it. If he changes his mind, you will too... he is the WIZARD OF OZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Cue Toto.. his kids want a dog in the Whitehaus.

...granted, it needs work.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-07   19:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: MUDDOG (#10)

i really want to see what he can accomplish.

To be young, gifted, and black,.

If he's deprived of trying, it will be on the hood of you and your ilk.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-07   19:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Peppa (#30)

To the tower with YOU. The O-train is NOT of a two party system... they are on the Messiah Ride, therefore different.. because they say so!

He walks on water, he parteth the sea! He takes away civil liberties for me and thee, he is, ******sound the trumpets in glory********, deliverance from eeeeevil. He stands against the powerful for the hungry, the weak against the strong, the haves against the have nots, ummmmmmmmmmm. wait. (put soros back behind the curtain). He's a bailtrazer, and no pedestal is high enough! He can calm the seas of racial strife, (take down the Wright blacklight posters please) he helps the rich to eat the poor. He's for social justice and hybrids! He for change, and he means it. If he changes his mind, you will too... he is the WIZARD OF OZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Cue Toto.. his kids want a dog in the Whitehaus.

...granted, it needs work.

No, you need psychiatric help ... desperately.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-07   19:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: iconoclast (#32)

No, you need psychiatric help ... desperately

You seem unqualified to appreciate excellent satire.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-07   19:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: iconoclast (#32)

I don't want to call anyone 'a racist', even though I have no problem calling myself so - I would NOT move into a black neighborhood, for example, and I would not be happy if many blacks began moving into mine which makes me a racist - but there are degrees of racism on a scale that ranges from 'healthy' (my kind) to 'sick'.

I see Lou Dobbs (a most confused man) turning into a Clintonist only because he wants Obama to lose. I believe he wants him to lose because Obama dared diss him, calling the Dobbs name in the same sentence that had Rush and some other idiots in it. Somehow, being dissed by Obama left an open, festering wound, or so it seems.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-07   20:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Critter (#14)

it's not the water.

christine  posted on  2008-04-07   20:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#35)

Maybe it's the food. My company's cafeteria switched today to 'eatcomplete', which means that they are serving COLORful (hint, hint) veggies and beans and LEAN (hint) meats. And, today, we all got a free banana.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-07   20:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: iconoclast (#32)

No, you need psychiatric help ... desperately.

ROFL!

www.youtube.com/watch? v=zZI0zO2TS1Y

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-07   20:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom, Peppa (#33)

You seem unqualified to appreciate excellent satire.

Her satire is indistinguishable from her usual posts.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-07   20:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Critter (#18)

The insanity is believing that there is an ounce of difference.

As Teddy Long would say, EGGZACUTIGLY!!!!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-07   20:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: iconoclast (#38)

LOL - THAT was funny :))))) (just kidding)

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-07   20:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Peppa (#30)

Great post, Peppa.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-07   20:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: iconoclast (#38)

Her satire is indistinguishable from her usual posts.

Boo-hoo.

c'mon now.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-07   20:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

Great post, Peppa.

Thanks much JD!

Ay carumba, it's later than we think......... ;)

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-07   20:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)

I see Lou Dobbs (a most confused man) turning into a Clintonist only because he wants Obama to lose. I believe he wants him to lose because Obama dared diss him, calling the Dobbs name in the same sentence that had Rush and some other idiots in it.

I like Lou .... most of the time.

He's right on the border and economic protectionism, but little else ... gubmint schools for on example.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-07   20:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Artisan (#17)

This is classic!

From the 'He is trash, he was born trash...'

Preach, Preacher!

Lod  posted on  2008-04-07   20:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#0)

I'm for Moe

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-07   20:43:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#7)

Yes, an Obama Presidency would be an O-Bummer!

roughrider  posted on  2008-04-07   20:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: iconoclast (#31)

If he's deprived of trying, it will be on the hood of you and your ilk.

I can't speak for the whole ilk, but personally I don't support and am not going to vote for Obama, Hillary, or McCain.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-07   21:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: MUDDOG (#48)

I can't speak for the whole ilk, but personally I don't support and am not going to vote for Obama, Hillary, or McCain.

This ilkist, or ilker will cast no vote for the scum foisted upon us by the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-07   21:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#49)

Aha! A fellow ilker!


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-07   21:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: MUDDOG (#50)

We ilkers have to band together to protect this country from the barbarians who would send any of the three to Washington.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-07   21:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#0)

I won't "vote" for him. Barr maybe the alternate, or some other 3rd party candidate.

The Obamacons here are in denial, very naive, and weak in true principles. They are closet socialists pinkos, while pretending to be independent constitutionalists.

A few here have lost some serious credibility.

Hate laws, speech laws, war lite, UN carbon taxes, amnesty, gun laws, more taxes for health care and to prop up homes, etc....

Sounds great.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2008-04-08   8:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#49)

This ilkist, or ilker will cast no vote for the scum foisted upon us by the system.

Ink.* Used to be a "club" of "inks" on LP. I won't vote for "the scum foisted upon us by the system" either.

*TLBSHOW aka "The Toddler" called someone an "ink" when he meant to say ilk and that is where it started iirc.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-08   8:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: James Deffenbach (#53)

James...

I have been around forums, chat rooms etc on the internet for over ten years.

Wish I had kept track of the names people have appended, plus the descriptions of my intelligence etc. Most were bad, maybe one or two could be termed questionable.

In this rant there is a nugget of truth about human nature. Namely, in my long life, other than the military, I recall only one or two people that have had the effrontery to speak their minds in front of me in a derogatory manner.

However, on the internet there is no such limit as to the vitriol unleashed.

Shrinks say it has something to do with being able to hide and say bad things without punishment. Human nature.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   9:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom, MUDDOG (#51)

Can I join the ilk?

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Critter (#55)

Can I join the ilk?

I thought you were one of the leading factions of the ilk.

"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: angle (#56)

I thought you were one of the leading factions of the ilk.

Unofficially.

But I think here is an official ilk. If there is, I want in.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-04-08   10:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine (#35)

it's not the water.

It must be the propaganda then.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-08   10:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: iconoclast (#31)

If he's deprived of trying, it will be on the hood of you and your ilk.

Better not to use the word "ilk". It's a favorite of the neocons and of the denizens of Free Republic.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   10:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom (#54)

James...

I have been around forums, chat rooms etc on the internet for over ten years.

Wish I had kept track of the names people have appended, plus the descriptions of my intelligence etc. Most were bad, maybe one or two could be termed questionable.

In this rant there is a nugget of truth about human nature. Namely, in my long life, other than the military, I recall only one or two people that have had the effrontery to speak their minds in front of me in a derogatory manner.

However, on the internet there is no such limit as to the vitriol unleashed.

Shrinks say it has something to do with being able to hide and say bad things without punishment. Human nature.

I think that everyone that "The Toddler" thought of as an "ink" had fun with it. No one took it too seriously.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-08   12:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: iconoclast (#44)

I like Lou .... most of the time.

He's right on the border and economic protectionism, but little else ... gubmint schools for on example.

Pay close attention to what he's saying and you may be able to detect the statist, hiding under several layers of populism and emotional outrages.

His dream state is a most efficient and orderly state - efficient border control is only the beginning - where commerce, income, individual behavior, just about everything are tightly regulated and maintained within the proper standards of decency and efficiency. He doesn't like the Iraq situation but mostly because it was not well-thought and because it proves to be wasteful. He seems to believe that Iran is our enemy and anything worse than our invasion and occupation of Iraq is Iran's gaining influence in 'our' Iraq.

Oh, and don't get me started on his 99% so-called polls.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-08   22:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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