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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
Source: Democratic Underground
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Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
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Views: 3868
Comments: 259

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I doubt Obama is electable in the fall, but I KNOW Hillary isn't.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: Sam Houston (#1)

so you think it's mcCain?

christine  posted on  2008-04-07   18:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: christine (#2)

Barring a miracle, yes.

A part of me wants McInsane to inherit this disaster. The other part of me wants to survive, though.

McInsane may well end civilization. You can already feel it crumbling. But he'll probably ignite a thermonuclear 9/11 on the entire planet.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   18:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)

It'll probably come down to who is the best warmonger. Don't forget how the media trots out the OBL tapes right before voting.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-07   18:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: Sam Houston (#3)

wonder if the republicans can get away with the appearance of another stolen election.

christine  posted on  2008-04-07   18:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: Sam Houston (#1)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: ghostdogtxn (#6)

I think Obama wins this election decisively.

Really????

Dont bet the farm. Thousands of citizens did not switch parties to vote for Obama.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   9:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: ghostdogtxn (#8)

I know of NO dyed in the wool democrat locally that will vote for Obama this month or in NOV. None, nada, zilch.

They are such die hard party stalwarts that they will vote Clinton in Nov. regardless of whom she drags along as VP.

Republican stalwarts have no stomach for McKooK and will stay home now and in Nov. or leave a lot of blanks.

Will the white guilt, gender and homosexual crowd vote Obama and or Clinton, yes they will.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   9:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#6)

I didn't get the impression there was a big surge for Obama when I was in the southeast part of the state around Easter. It was non-stop MSM politics. People are sick of it.

"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: Sam Houston (#3)

McInsane may well end civilization.

Cancer may get him first. Enter RP.

"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: all (#0)

In the real world of racial American politics, Obama has already won. Given his success to date, there is no way the Beast could be declared the nominee of the socialist wing of the National party w/o major social unrest. If that were to happen, the racist Rev. Wright, and those who think whites created AIDS to pare down the black populace, would erupt into riots, circa Harlem, 1965.

I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: Cynicom (#9)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: angle (#10)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

Peter Beinart has an op ed in today's Washington Post suggesting that Obama's effective management of his campaign suggests that he would be an effective president: Obama at the Helm.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   10:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

I think there's a lot of misunderestimation going on about Obama.

Rendell & Hillary are right. He can't win a national. There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#13)

Gov. Rendell, white, Jew, democrat and governor of the State put it rather bluntly, regardless of polls etc, white voters will not vote Obama for president.

Obama as dem candidate brings us McKooK, Americans lose regardless who wins.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: aristeides (#15)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#19. To: angle (#11)

Cancer may get him first. Enter RP

would it be wrong to pray for that?

christine  posted on  2008-04-08   10:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

It seems we have a lot of them here.

They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: Cynicom (#17)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#23. To: christine (#19)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: ghostdogtxn (#20) (Edited)

There may not be enough guilt laden whites out there, but how many bloodthirsty warmongers are left?

Plenty in both so called "parties".

We received next to zilch support here for Ron Paul, the only non war monger, but all of a sudden the Obama chorus is loud and clear. Very odd.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: Cynicom (#21)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#25)

Sure. I'm voting for the black guy because of my "guilt"...

Well, at least you admit it.

Score one for you.

This talk about "war mongering" is just that, talk. a smoke screen to justify voting a guilty conscience because none of the three will end the war. NONE. You know that as well as others.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#27. To: Cynicom (#24)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: Cynicom (#21)

They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.

Cyni,

The Cleansed Ones claim a special political insight that ignores the black dual standard. As part of their guilt they willingly accept a seat on the back of the same bus Rosa Park rode. Take pity; their warm and fuzzy feeling will soon be replaced by shock when their kids become the brunt of the insanity they embrace.

I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: Cynicom (#26)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#30. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#27)

Geeze. You make me sad, Cyni. You really do.

ghost...

You raised the "war mongering" issue.

Paul was the only man that would have ended the war, yet 4um gave next to zero support. Now all of a sudden we justify supporting Obama because he is not a warmonger????

Yet openly he says we need to move more troops into Afghanistan. why is that ghost, for what useful purpose????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#30)

O please. Why don't you just come on out and say you'd never vote for a black guy and be done with it. You're about as opaque as a sheet of glass.

And how opaque are the blacks that will 99 per cent vote for Obama because he is black..

Lets here what you have to say about them being racist, bigots or opaque'.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: Cynicom (#31)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)

How come he's winning in white states in the midwest, then?

Ah....because it's a D-selection process? When the rational thinkers in this nation are introduced to the real Hussein Obama (read my tag line), this selection will look like a George McGovern v Nixon event.

I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#32)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#36. To: ghostdogtxn (#30)

Why don't you just come on out and say you'd never vote for a black guy and be done with it.

Ah.......that would be because I refuse to vote.

I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#37. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#39. To: ghostdogtxn (#35)

This "reverse racism" card you guys continuously play, why does it never come out unless there's a black running for office? It's bullshit, that's why.

So state sanctioned reverse racism doesn't exist?

I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#33)

WTF are you talking about? 4um gave Ron Paul tons of support,

rah rah cheer leading does not count, money received counts. Obama received 2 million per day with little effort.

Now we seem to understand from whence it came.

" As for the troops in Afghanistan, it's a stupid move, a blunder,

Lets discuss that part, have you given it any thot as to WHY Obama would want more troops in Afghanistan???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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