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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
Source: Democratic Underground
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 4337
Comments: 259

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I doubt Obama is electable in the fall, but I KNOW Hillary isn't.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#6)

I didn't get the impression there was a big surge for Obama when I was in the southeast part of the state around Easter. It was non-stop MSM politics. People are sick of it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: angle (#10)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

I think there's a lot of misunderestimation going on about Obama.

Rendell & Hillary are right. He can't win a national. There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: ghostdogtxn (#20) (Edited)

There may not be enough guilt laden whites out there, but how many bloodthirsty warmongers are left?

Plenty in both so called "parties".

We received next to zilch support here for Ron Paul, the only non war monger, but all of a sudden the Obama chorus is loud and clear. Very odd.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#24)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#27)

Geeze. You make me sad, Cyni. You really do.

ghost...

You raised the "war mongering" issue.

Paul was the only man that would have ended the war, yet 4um gave next to zero support. Now all of a sudden we justify supporting Obama because he is not a warmonger????

Yet openly he says we need to move more troops into Afghanistan. why is that ghost, for what useful purpose????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:27:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:31:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#33)

WTF are you talking about? 4um gave Ron Paul tons of support,

rah rah cheer leading does not count, money received counts. Obama received 2 million per day with little effort.

Now we seem to understand from whence it came.

" As for the troops in Afghanistan, it's a stupid move, a blunder,

Lets discuss that part, have you given it any thot as to WHY Obama would want more troops in Afghanistan???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:36:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#40)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:43:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: ghostdogtxn (#48)

As for WHY Obama wants more troops in Afghanistan, I don't know that he really does

Obama's 2006 rating by the Almanac of American Politics (2008) on Foreign Policy is 85% liberal, 12% conservative. (2005: 76% liberal, 15% conservative.) [39]

His first major speech on foreign policy was delivered on April 23, 2007 to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He identified the problems the current foreign policy has caused, and the five ways America can lead again, focused on "common security", "common humanity", and remaining "a beacon of freedom and justice for the world":[40]

"Bringing a responsible end" to the war in Iraq and refocusing on the broader region.

"Building the first truly 21st century military and showing wisdom in how we deploy it."

"Marshalling a global effort" to secure, destroy, and stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

"Rebuild and construct the alliances and partnerships necessary to meet common challenges and confront common threats," including climate change.

"Invest in our common humanity" through foreign aid and supporting the "pillars of a sustainable democracy – a strong legislature, an independent judiciary, the rule of law, a vibrant civil society, a free press, and an honest police force."

During the speech Obama called for an expansion of the United States Armed Forces "by adding 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines", an idea introduced by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

In an address on national security to the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars on August 1, 2007, Obama stated that as President he would consider military action in Pakistan in order to attack al-Qaeda, even if the Pakistani government did not give approval.[41] Obama said, "I will not hesitate to use military force to take out terrorists who pose a direct threat to America."[42] He also said "As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations".[43]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol...ack_Obama#Network_neutral ity_and_government_use_of_information_technology

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   10:49:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Peppa (#53)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:52:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: ghostdogtxn (#57)

here's one of the many articles that were posted last week that you missed.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=77477&Disp=40#C40

note Obama's reference to 911

christine  posted on  2008-04-08   11:48:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: christine (#86)

note Obama's reference to 911

He didn't mean it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   12:42:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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