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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
Source: Democratic Underground
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Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 5365
Comments: 259

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I doubt Obama is electable in the fall, but I KNOW Hillary isn't.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't get the impression there was a big surge for Obama when I was in the southeast part of the state around Easter. It was non-stop MSM politics. People are sick of it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think there's a lot of misunderestimation going on about Obama.

Rendell & Hillary are right. He can't win a national. There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There may not be enough guilt laden whites out there, but how many bloodthirsty warmongers are left?

Plenty in both so called "parties".

We received next to zilch support here for Ron Paul, the only non war monger, but all of a sudden the Obama chorus is loud and clear. Very odd.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Geeze. You make me sad, Cyni. You really do.

ghost...

You raised the "war mongering" issue.

Paul was the only man that would have ended the war, yet 4um gave next to zero support. Now all of a sudden we justify supporting Obama because he is not a warmonger????

Yet openly he says we need to move more troops into Afghanistan. why is that ghost, for what useful purpose????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:27:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:31:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

WTF are you talking about? 4um gave Ron Paul tons of support,

rah rah cheer leading does not count, money received counts. Obama received 2 million per day with little effort.

Now we seem to understand from whence it came.

" As for the troops in Afghanistan, it's a stupid move, a blunder,

Lets discuss that part, have you given it any thot as to WHY Obama would want more troops in Afghanistan???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:36:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:43:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As for WHY Obama wants more troops in Afghanistan, I don't know that he really does.

He says so, but you don't know if he means it? Utter crap. I don't get where you're coming from at all.

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   11:18:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He says so, but you don't know if he means it? Utter crap. I don't get where you're coming from at all.

Troops in Afghanistan. There is a reason they are there, there is a reason Obama was told that was his position. Obamas military expertise is totally lacking so that proposal is not his military strategy.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   11:23:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Troops in Afghanistan. There is a reason they are there, there is a reason Obama was told that was his position. Obamas military expertise is totally lacking so that proposal is not his military strategy.

And it is explained here:

www.federaljack.com/modul...News&file=article&si d=659

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   11:27:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Zbig did not mention that the reason he wants to downplay certain aspects of US aggression in the Middle East is to free up resources for use in the much bigger and more dangerous adventures which the Trilateral Commission is now directing.

As usual you did you homework and this quote is correct.

Many people here refuse to look beyond Iraq, at what is unfolding before their eyes, much larger affairs are in the works by this government and it has 'not a damned thing to do with party politics".

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   11:38:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   13:20:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Zbig as Obama's foreign policy adviser is a scary concept, but look how the critics lapped up "Charlie Wilson's War". That was an unapologetic ode to Zbigniew Breszinski's policies that would have made Monica Lewinski blush from under the table, and yet it was accepted non critically by most Americans.

First, its not a concept it's a fact, and his son Mark is also an advisor, and yes it's very scary.

Second, to follow along here, you say critics lapped up a movie and it was accepted by MOST Americans. I don't know that that's true, and I haven't seen the movie myself to agree or disagree... but you are suggesting that most Americans then embrace whatever it was in the movie, and that's good enough to keep on doing the same? How does this connect with Obama's policy?

I liked the Godfather movies, but didn't conclude that it was okay embrace the criminal empire.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   13:33:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   13:42:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your second point has me wondering a bit, though. I usually don't try to turn a question around unless the poser of it is an asshole, and believe me, I don't think that of you at all, but where are you coming from here?

It's okay, I've been called worse, and I sleep okay. ;)

You mentioned above: look how the critics lapped up "Charlie Wilson's War". That was an unapologetic ode to Zbigniew Breszinski's policies that would have made Monica Lewinski blush from under the table, and yet it was accepted non critically by most Americans.

I tried to understand the logic of it, but apparently fell short. Can you help me understand what you meant?

I've accepted reluctantly that we are down to 3 likely candidates for president. Obama, Clinton or McCain is going to inherit the expanded and ghastly powers of "Free World's Slavemaster". Who do you want to see in that office, among the 3? If you disagree that we're down to 3, please explain how that can be?

Same here. There are 3. I will not vote for any of them, at all, no matter what happens from now till November, I reject all three. And their are many many reasons, but one huge common denominator is that all three are or are controlled by the CFR, that is intent on a one-world government controlled by pure evil beings. To all three, I say, I won't vote for our own suicide.

I don't know if that helps.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   13:59:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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