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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
Source: Democratic Underground
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Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 3911
Comments: 259

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I doubt Obama is electable in the fall, but I KNOW Hillary isn't.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't get the impression there was a big surge for Obama when I was in the southeast part of the state around Easter. It was non-stop MSM politics. People are sick of it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think there's a lot of misunderestimation going on about Obama.

Rendell & Hillary are right. He can't win a national. There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

It seems we have a lot of them here.

They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:19:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.

I think you're old enough to remember how much of the Catholic vote JFK got in 1960. Do you ascribe his victory to "Protestant guilt"?

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   11:51:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think you're old enough to remember how much of the Catholic vote JFK got in 1960

Ah....ari my boy......the Catholic vote that went to JFK was the traditional Democrat vote, as most Catholics then, and now, remain Ds and political clueless. Nice try, tho.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   12:05:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

......the Catholic vote that went to JFK was the traditional Democrat vote, as most Catholics then, and now, remain Ds

The black vote that Obama will get is also traditionally Democratic, as most blacks then, and now, remain Ds.

Thank you for making my point for me. There's no difference between how Catholics then voted for JFK, and how blacks today support Obama.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   12:10:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you for making my point for me. There's no difference between how Catholics then voted for JFK, and how blacks today support Obama.

Sure there is a difference. Black Ds were Clintonites until a fellow black came into the mix. See? To them it's all about race, my fine diversity-loving friend.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   12:16:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sure there is a difference. Black Ds were Clintonites until a fellow black came into the mix. See? To them it's all about race, my fine diversity-loving friend.

The Catholics who voted for JFK in the 1960 primaries (as most of them did) had mostly voted for Adlai Stevenson in '52 and '56. (A lot of Catholics had voted for Eisenhower in those elections, but most of those Catholics did not vote in the Democratic primaries in 1960.) Stevenson was one of the Democrats running for the nomination in 1960.

Again, no difference.

I remember. I was a Catholic Irish-American who (mistakenly) supported Nixon that year (mainly out of resentment of how it seemed to be expected that I should support JFK). I remember how unpopular that was in my circles.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   14:07:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I remember. I was a Catholic Irish-American who (mistakenly) supported Nixon that year (mainly out of resentment of how it seemed to be expected that I should support JFK). I remember how unpopular that was in my circles.

So, in 1960 you were unpopular in your circles for supporting Nixon? I'm 58, so in 1960 I was busy trying to feel up Gracie Segona, the only girl w/boobs we knew. You were how old?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   14:17:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I was 14. I remember being punched in my high school for wearing a Nixon button.

I hope my youth at the time serves to excuse the poor judgment I had in opposing JFK.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   14:20:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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