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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
Source: Democratic Underground
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Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 4269
Comments: 259

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I doubt Obama is electable in the fall, but I KNOW Hillary isn't.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think Obama wins this election decisively.

I agree. Insane doesn't have the support. He's too close to the current Bush admin who's approval ratings are in the toilet. He openly wants more war when it's extremely unpopular.

And the economy will continue to tank between now and November and he'll have no answers to campaign with.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-08   13:23:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama's gotta get past the Dem party elite to secure the nomination first. that won't happen unless he's the selection.

christine  posted on  2008-04-08   13:46:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama's gotta get past the Dem party elite to secure the nomination first. that won't happen unless he's the selection.

In which case, all discussion on (s)elections is for naught.

Which I know is your main point.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-08   14:17:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

well, we have to start with the belief that our votes are counted. i happen to believe they don't and that the PTB choose who's going to be president years in advance. i think our elections have been manipulated and fraudulent for years (i read Votescam: The Stealing of America in 2001).

i was a reluctant voter for RP from the getgo because of this conviction. that's the reason i was so disappointed and angered when he made the declaration that vote fraud hadn't affected his results in NH and the primary after that. imo, illuminating vote fraud would have been the biggest favor RP could have done for us and this country. for without honest elections, we have nothing. no government for, by, and of the people.

this is probably the main issue that separates in the current debate. others, obviously, believe that they're electing.

i won't ever vote for one of their selection. it would be an endorsement that i believe in it and will continue to accept it.

christine  posted on  2008-04-08   14:39:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All three will bring us fully into the NAU and complete bastardization of our nation to the globalist god.

I resemble those remarks...well done Christine! I don't care to see what B.O., Hitlery OR McTraitor are going to do and doubt we'll get the opportunity to chat about it before long.

FOH  posted on  2008-04-08   14:45:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Monday I'm going to a hearing at the state capitol for AJR 51. It is non binding but calls for the repeal of Real ID.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-04-08   16:45:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Monday I'm going to a hearing at the state capitol for AJR 51. It is non binding but calls for the repeal of Real ID.

FF,

While this may be the lamest ill-sourced post ever, I offer this. On MSNBC this morning, some pub came out warning against the National ID/Real ID legislation. I don't know the guys name, had never seen his face on the tube before, but the hosts kept teasing that he was on the short list of McCain VP possibilities.

That they connected him with McCain, is a red flag on it's own.

That he is warning of the lack of evidence that such a card is not a guarantee of a more secure nation...

It made me wonder, what *else* was in the pipeline. Something different than a card?

These people don't do anything without prepping the public with what they want to hear to embrace something worse as the exchange.

I wish like hell I could tell you the guys name, but I can only relay what I saw and heard. FWIW.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   23:58:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well I can tell you that the Real ID Act of 2005 puts our state drivers licenses under an international authority with Canada and Mexico and creates an international face recognition data base that will be shared with all other countries. There is a requirement that all people entering the US by air be checked against this data base. Since face recognition is only effective less than 40% of the time, what are the odds of false identification? And we know that "terrorists" are enemy combatants held with out bail or legal counsel. Real ID not only gets us closer to NAU but a one world government.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-04-09   6:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Since face recognition is only effective less than 40% of the time, what are the odds of false identification?

That's what the guy on the tube yesterday mentioned as well.. I think he mentioned that people need to push back starting now before some implementation begins in 2009.

Real ID not only gets us closer to NAU but a one world government.

Agreed.

I'm sure all 3 candidates are FOR this.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-09   10:51:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

REAL_ID_Act_of_2005

The Real ID Act of 2005 was approved by both the House and Senate as part of the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief (H.R.1268) and signed into law on May 11, 2005 by President George W. Bush.[1]

So they buried it in another bill no one would dare vote against. It was a unanimous vote in the Senate.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-04-09   15:04:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#258. To: farmfriend (#256)

So they buried it in another bill no one would dare vote against. It was a unanimous vote in the Senate.

Grrr.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-09 15:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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