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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
Source: Democratic Underground
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 5152
Comments: 259

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I doubt Obama is electable in the fall, but I KNOW Hillary isn't.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-07   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston (#1)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   9:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#6)

I didn't get the impression there was a big surge for Obama when I was in the southeast part of the state around Easter. It was non-stop MSM politics. People are sick of it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-08   9:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: angle (#10)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-08   10:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

I think there's a lot of misunderestimation going on about Obama.

Rendell & Hillary are right. He can't win a national. There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.

It seems we have a lot of them here.

They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:19:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#21)

They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.

Cyni,

The Cleansed Ones claim a special political insight that ignores the black dual standard. As part of their guilt they willingly accept a seat on the back of the same bus Rosa Park rode. Take pity; their warm and fuzzy feeling will soon be replaced by shock when their kids become the brunt of the insanity they embrace.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:25:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

As part of their guilt they willingly accept a seat on the back of the same bus Rosa Park rode. Take pity; their warm and fuzzy feeling will soon be replaced by shock when their kids become the brunt of the insanity they embrace.

Remember Obama said he was a member of the “Joshua generation,” whose challenge is to complete the work of the “Moses generation,” specifically with respect to the rights of African-Americans.

We should put a list of questions together and submit before their next debate.

His position on mandatory 'service' needs some clarification. He supports 65K more troops and a redeployment plan, so does his committment to withdraw troops carry a deadline?


December 5, 2007, 2:08 pm

Obama Issues Call for Public Service

By Jeff Zeleny

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/obama-issues-call-for-public- service/

MT. VERNON, Iowa – Senator Barack Obama implored young Americans “to step into the currents of history,” by not only supporting his presidential candidacy, but committing to form a new generation of public service.

In a speech here today at Cornell College, Mr. Obama said he would seek to restore America’s standing in the world by doubling the size of the Peace Corps, increasing the strength of the Foreign Service and creating a national network – modeled after Craigslist – to connect volunteers to areas of need across the country.

“I won’t just ask for your vote as a candidate, I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I am president of the United States,” Mr. Obama said, drawing applause and a standing ovation from hundreds of students and residents of this eastern Iowa town. “This will not be a call issued in one speech or program, this will be a cause of my presidency.”

Before presenting his proposals calling for a renewed commitment to national service, Mr. Obama was endorsed by Harris Wofford, a former senator from Pennsylvania who helped form the Peace Corps during his time in the Kennedy administration. As he introduced Mr. Obama to the crowd, Mr. Wofford said he had not felt as inspired “since the days of John Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King.” “Barack Obama has picked up the torch that they lit,” Mr. Wofford said.

In his speech here, Mr. Obama also proposed to:

* Expand AmeriCorps from 75,000 slots to 250,000 slots and establish five new “corps,” including: Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps and Homeland Security Corps.

* Increase the engagement of retired Americans in volunteer service.

* Establish a goal of having students in middle school and high school contribute at least 50 hours a year to community service

* Create a new American Opportunity Tax Credit to ensure the first $4,000 of a college education is free for Americans willing to complete 100 hours of public service a year.

With four weeks remaining in the Iowa caucus campaign, Mr. Obama is aggressively courting college students and residents of college communities across the state. Today’s stop at Cornell College is one of five stops on college campus over a two-day stretch of campaigning.

“This is one of those rare windows that don’t come around very often, maybe once in a generation,” Mr. Obama said. “As you get older, you get more set in your ways, you come to just assume that the world as it is, is the world as it must be. At your age, you’re still in the position to imagine what it might be. You are in the position to be the lever by which we move in a different direction.”

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   10:42:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Peppa (#47)

He supports 65K more troops and a redeployment plan,

The key word is "redeployment".

That does not mean bring the troops home, merely shift them elsewhere in the region.

When Obama spoke of sending more troops to Afghanistan, that was not Obama speaking, that was his handlers putting words into his mouth.

There is a reason to add troops to Afghanistan but not to look for Osama.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   10:46:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Cynicom, Peppa, all (#50)

The key word is "redeployment".

That does not mean bring the troops home, merely shift them elsewhere in the region.

As the late Paul Harvey was fond of saying, "Here is the rest of the story."

I didn't know Obama's full plan until I poked around and found the material. He bought the Iraqi Study Group's plan, lock, stock and barrel. And that plan, BTW, was hatched from an Israeli one that was developed in '82. Little did I know by simply offering it w/o comment, some would take offense.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   10:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Little did I know by simply offering it w/o comment, some would take offense.

Any discussion of Obama's statements or votes appears to be offensive. Such scrutiny is racist.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   11:15:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Peppa (#72)

Any discussion of Obama's statements or votes appears to be offensive. Such scrutiny is racist.

This tactic by guilt laden whites has been adopted from the black radical handbook. For now they're useful idiots.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   11:50:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#87)

This tactic by guilt laden whites has been adopted from the black radical handbook. For now they're useful idiots.

There's only one poster I've seen that said, I'm voting for O because he's black. And he has made it clear why. Honesty is refreshing.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08   11:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Peppa (#90)

There's only one poster I've seen that said, I'm voting for O because he's black. And he has made it clear why. Honesty is refreshing.

I know of whom you speak, and yes it's refreshing, but, that same poster would say nasty things about a white who did the same. That would be an example of the reverse racism he refuses to acknowledge.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-08   12:09:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#98. To: Jethro Tull (#94) (Edited)

I know of whom you speak, and yes it's refreshing, but, that same poster would say nasty things about a white who did the same. That would be an example of the reverse racism he refuses to acknowledge.

Geeeeeze.

Does anyone know when we fell down the rabbit hole?

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08 12:15:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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