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Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45
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Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: DU people
Post Date: 2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn
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#220. To: Peppa (#218)
No proof, that is, if you don't find an official statement by the University of Chicago Law School to be evidence enough. Oh, I see, you're objecting that he was only offered tenure-track positions, not tenure. I suppose that's true. I stand corrected. I was somewhat inaccurate. Yes, I misremembered. But Obama was not inaccurate, and my point stands that the University of Chicago clearly thought highly of Obama as a professor.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Good of you to admit your reading comprehension sometimes is lacking. I have been telling you about that for some time. Ahem.
And did you read the link I provided above about that? Oh, I see, you're objecting that he was only offered tenure-track positions, not tenure. I suppose that's true. I stand corrected. I only object when people embellish the facts. The facts are the facts, and apparently the legal community likes to make sure they're right, especially when it's about them. I was somewhat inaccurate. Yes, I misremembered. But Obama was not inaccurate, and my point stands that the University of Chicago clearly thought highly of Obama as a professor. That's okay. There's no argument so far that people consider lecturers, 'professors' UofChicago. As a lecturer or professor on the Constitution, I'd expect to see his positions closer to Ron Paul, yet, despite his education, and respect given as a lecturer, his PERSONAL politics are contrary to it. I did read that he considers the Constitution a living document. So, if that is true then, his politics support that. He sort of picks and chooses what he likes about it.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Yes, and I consider an official statement by the University of Chicago Law School to be better evidence. Especially when it happens to coincide with my own experience as a lecturer at Yale.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I drove by Yale once, they told me to keep moving.
I would say they were being politically careful, yet were taken to task on known definitions by others as well. Your experience as a lecturer at Yale then should by extention find it important that accuracy be maintained. However, the law means whatever you let people get away with at the moment. It may be rude of me to suggest that as a lecturer at Yale, I expect you to have a fine tuned ear and eye for BS. As retired military, I expect it. I have 3 cousins now deployed, another one is home a year now (with an injury the Gov. refuses to treat). The truth matters. Spinning it to fit some world view that will not happen, is hard for me to understand and accept at face value.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Ok Ari you been shelved by an expert, admit it. I once met a gentleman that was a Prof at a large engineering school. Degrees by the handful. I mentioned I had a loser friend that graduated from the same school and asked if perhaps he had "loser" for a student. He turned red faced and flustered, turned out my "loser" friend had HIM as a student.
Not an expert, or a doormat either. Thank you though.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Oh how I would LOVE to see Hillary run as a third-party/independent candidate. Just so she can see just HOW unpopular she is nationally.
The title of this thread is really misleading now. A poll came out in the last day or so placing Hillary 18 points ahead.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
There's no guarantee. All three are sanctioned by the criminals at the top else they wouldn't be there. Obama is getting so much favorable MSM coverage, don't you think? His message is allowable. The whole thing is a dog and pony show to distract you and the rest from seeing and reacting to the horror that our country has become.
"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson
Pregnant man tells Oprah: It's a miracle
lol. Don't forget Britney...it seems she's seeing her father for a limited time everyday.
"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson
Thanks Mike. I'm certain you have me confused with someone else tho :)
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
Who rattled your cage?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Sure there is... The Peoples Democratic Republic of Congo. They like you a lot - boiled with garlic.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" FF, While this may be the lamest ill-sourced post ever, I offer this. On MSNBC this morning, some pub came out warning against the National ID/Real ID legislation. I don't know the guys name, had never seen his face on the tube before, but the hosts kept teasing that he was on the short list of McCain VP possibilities. That they connected him with McCain, is a red flag on it's own. That he is warning of the lack of evidence that such a card is not a guarantee of a more secure nation... It made me wonder, what *else* was in the pipeline. Something different than a card? These people don't do anything without prepping the public with what they want to hear to embrace something worse as the exchange. I wish like hell I could tell you the guys name, but I can only relay what I saw and heard. FWIW.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
hehehehe..witty ;)
Not nice scare an olde man. You have seen too many of the boiling pot jokes. Maybe Turtle would let me become an Ozarker?
hehehehe..witty ;) Not funny at all, scare an olde man. I will tell on both of you.
Well I can tell you that the Real ID Act of 2005 puts our state drivers licenses under an international authority with Canada and Mexico and creates an international face recognition data base that will be shared with all other countries. There is a requirement that all people entering the US by air be checked against this data base. Since face recognition is only effective less than 40% of the time, what are the odds of false identification? And we know that "terrorists" are enemy combatants held with out bail or legal counsel. Real ID not only gets us closer to NAU but a one world government.
That's a good idea. They got coffins there and like to have sex in them. Weird bunch I tell you.
God is always good!
Yes indeed. You are at a social gathering of uppity people, most are unknown to each other. One person "attended" Yale, how will you know who that person is? Not to worry, they will tell you.
Only if you marry his wife. That's how you get in good with the families down there.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I only mentioned I was a lecturer at Yale because it was relevant to the discussion of Obama's academic status. Are we not supposed to present evidence of our personal experiences when they are relevant to a discussion? I bet you can't find a single other posting of mine here where I mentioned that item in my history.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
That's what the guy on the tube yesterday mentioned as well.. I think he mentioned that people need to push back starting now before some implementation begins in 2009. Real ID not only gets us closer to NAU but a one world government. Agreed. I'm sure all 3 candidates are FOR this.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Ari... I did not see its relevancy. My error.
Cyni, The entire exchange between you and ari should go like this: ari: "I've lectured at Yale. Have you?" Cyni: "No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night."
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
You missed my point, which was that, although I was just a lecturer, I was often addressed by the courtesy title of "Professor". I mentioned Yale to suggest the analogy with the University of Chicago, which I suspect has similar customs. Trust you to miss my point.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Just joshing around.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
At least when you "speak" here, you never know what you'll be called ;P
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
REAL_ID_Act_of_2005 So they buried it in another bill no one would dare vote against. It was a unanimous vote in the Senate.
Cyni: "No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night." Jethro... I "did" get the point Ari was making. It is true I came in on the turnip truck, but not yesterday. I have no paper to hang on the wall, no credentials, no ethics, however I do have a BS degree from UHN.
Grrr.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
And I'm a graduate of City University of New York, the land of Lionel Trilling, Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz. Our little commie wannabes have nooooooooo idea what the real radical left is capable of, but I suspect we'll see in good time.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
There is no proof that he was offered tenure several times.
#221. To: aristeides (#220)
I stand corrected.
#222. To: aristeides (#220)
(Edited)
No proof, that is, if you don't find an official statement by the University of Chicago Law School to be evidence enough.
#223. To: Peppa (#222)
And did you read the link I provided above about that?
#224. To: aristeides (#223)
Especially when it happens to coincide with my own experience as a lecturer at Yale.
#225. To: aristeides (#223)
(Edited)
Yes, and I consider an official statement by the University of Chicago Law School to be better evidence. Especially when it happens to coincide with my own experience as a lecturer at Yale.
#226. To: Peppa, aristedes (#225)
I would say they were being politically careful, yet were taken to task on known definitions by others as well. Your experience as a lecturer at Yale then should by extention find it important that accuracy be maintained. However, the law means whatever you let people get away with at the moment. It may be rude of me to suggest that as a lecturer at Yale, I expect you to have a fine tuned ear and eye for BS.
#227. To: Cynicom (#226)
(Edited)
Ok Ari you been shelved by an expert, admit it.
#228. To: Pinguinite (#116)
...As a write in or is Clinton going 3rd party?
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#229. To: PnbC (#228)
#230. To: robin (#206)
The McCain years would be even worse.
#231. To: angle, christine, all (#230)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#232. To: robin, All (#231)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#233. To: wudidiz (#231)
#234. To: angle (#230)
#235. To: Cynicom (#226)
#236. To: Ferret Mike (#211)
#237. To: Jethro Tull (#205)
(Edited)
#238. To: Ferret Mike (#211)
#239. To: Jethro Tull (#125)
#240. To: Cynicom (#204)
Is there any country that will accept emigrees from NORTH AMERICA?
#241. To: farmfriend (#219)
Monday I'm going to a hearing at the state capitol for AJR 51. It is non binding but calls for the repeal of Real ID.
#242. To: tom007 (#240)
They like you a lot - boiled with garlic.
#243. To: tom007 (#240)
They like you a lot - boiled with garlic.
#244. To: christine (#242)
They like you a lot - boiled with garlic.
#245. To: Peppa (#241)
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#246. To: Cynicom (#224)
I drove by Yale once, they told me to keep moving.
#247. To: RickyJ (#246)
Weird bunch I tell you.
#248. To: Cynicom (#243)
Maybe Turtle would let me become an Ozarker?
#249. To: Cynicom (#247)
#250. To: farmfriend (#245)
Since face recognition is only effective less than 40% of the time, what are the odds of false identification?
#251. To: aristeides (#249)
I only mentioned I was a lecturer at Yale because it was relevant to the discussion of Obama's academic status. Are we not supposed to present evidence of our personal experiences when they are relevant to a discussion?
#252. To: Cynicom, Ari, all (#251)
#253. To: Jethro Tull (#252)
ari: "I've lectured at Yale. Have you?"
#254. To: aristeides (#253)
#255. To: aristeides (#253)
#256. To: Peppa (#250)
The Real ID Act of 2005 was approved by both the House and Senate as part of the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief (H.R.1268) and signed into law on May 11, 2005 by President George W. Bush.[1]
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#257. To: Jethro Tull, aristeides (#252)
ari: "I've lectured at Yale. Have you?"
#258. To: farmfriend (#256)
So they buried it in another bill no one would dare vote against. It was a unanimous vote in the Senate.
#259. To: Cynicom (#257)
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