Title: ARG Poll has PA tied between Obama and Clinton at 45-45 Source:
Democratic Underground URL Source:[None] Published:Apr 7, 2008 Author:DU people Post Date:2008-04-07 17:42:11 by ghostdogtxn Keywords:None Views:4052 Comments:259
I think there's a lot of misunderestimation going on about Obama.
Rendell & Hillary are right. He can't win a national. There simply aren't enough guilt laden whites out here.......thank god.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
Gov. Rendell, white, Jew, democrat and governor of the State put it rather bluntly, regardless of polls etc, white voters will not vote Obama for president.
Obama as dem candidate brings us McKooK, Americans lose regardless who wins.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Sure. I'm voting for the black guy because of my "guilt"...
Well, at least you admit it.
Score one for you.
This talk about "war mongering" is just that, talk. a smoke screen to justify voting a guilty conscience because none of the three will end the war. NONE. You know that as well as others.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
They are all very quiet about the fact that Obama will garner 99 per cent of the black vote, " because he is black", very quiet.
Cyni,
The Cleansed Ones claim a special political insight that ignores the black dual standard. As part of their guilt they willingly accept a seat on the back of the same bus Rosa Park rode. Take pity; their warm and fuzzy feeling will soon be replaced by shock when their kids become the brunt of the insanity they embrace.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Paul was the only man that would have ended the war, yet 4um gave next to zero support. Now all of a sudden we justify supporting Obama because he is not a warmonger????
Yet openly he says we need to move more troops into Afghanistan. why is that ghost, for what useful purpose????
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
How come he's winning in white states in the midwest, then?
Ah....because it's a D-selection process? When the rational thinkers in this nation are introduced to the real Hussein Obama (read my tag line), this selection will look like a George McGovern v Nixon event.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Why don't you just come on out and say you'd never vote for a black guy and be done with it.
Ah.......that would be because I refuse to vote.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
This "reverse racism" card you guys continuously play, why does it never come out unless there's a black running for office? It's bullshit, that's why.
So state sanctioned reverse racism doesn't exist?
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
White liberals have always provided me with an endless source of amusement.
Please continue.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
I'd say it no more exists than good old fashioned racism.
Your non-answers are funny :)
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
ghost does not want to discuss the millions of blacks that will vote Obama because he is black. I find that odd.
The Cleansed Ones aren't capable of logical, direct discussion. In order for their universe to make sense, certain realities must be either ignored or rejected as racist.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
As part of their guilt they willingly accept a seat on the back of the same bus Rosa Park rode. Take pity; their warm and fuzzy feeling will soon be replaced by shock when their kids become the brunt of the insanity they embrace.
Remember Obama said he was a member of the Joshua generation, whose challenge is to complete the work of the Moses generation, specifically with respect to the rights of African-Americans.
We should put a list of questions together and submit before their next debate.
His position on mandatory 'service' needs some clarification. He supports 65K more troops and a redeployment plan, so does his committment to withdraw troops carry a deadline?
MT. VERNON, Iowa Senator Barack Obama implored young Americans to step into the currents of history, by not only supporting his presidential candidacy, but committing to form a new generation of public service.
In a speech here today at Cornell College, Mr. Obama said he would seek to restore Americas standing in the world by doubling the size of the Peace Corps, increasing the strength of the Foreign Service and creating a national network modeled after Craigslist to connect volunteers to areas of need across the country.
I wont just ask for your vote as a candidate, I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I am president of the United States, Mr. Obama said, drawing applause and a standing ovation from hundreds of students and residents of this eastern Iowa town. This will not be a call issued in one speech or program, this will be a cause of my presidency.
Before presenting his proposals calling for a renewed commitment to national service, Mr. Obama was endorsed by Harris Wofford, a former senator from Pennsylvania who helped form the Peace Corps during his time in the Kennedy administration. As he introduced Mr. Obama to the crowd, Mr. Wofford said he had not felt as inspired since the days of John Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Barack Obama has picked up the torch that they lit, Mr. Wofford said.
In his speech here, Mr. Obama also proposed to:
* Expand AmeriCorps from 75,000 slots to 250,000 slots and establish five new corps, including: Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps and Homeland Security Corps.
* Increase the engagement of retired Americans in volunteer service.
* Establish a goal of having students in middle school and high school contribute at least 50 hours a year to community service
* Create a new American Opportunity Tax Credit to ensure the first $4,000 of a college education is free for Americans willing to complete 100 hours of public service a year.
With four weeks remaining in the Iowa caucus campaign, Mr. Obama is aggressively courting college students and residents of college communities across the state. Todays stop at Cornell College is one of five stops on college campus over a two-day stretch of campaigning.
This is one of those rare windows that dont come around very often, maybe once in a generation, Mr. Obama said. As you get older, you get more set in your ways, you come to just assume that the world as it is, is the world as it must be. At your age, youre still in the position to imagine what it might be. You are in the position to be the lever by which we move in a different direction.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
ghost does not want to discuss the millions of blacks that will vote Obama because he is black. I find that odd.
Any intelligent person knows that if he wasn't half black he wouldn't even be considered for President of the USA by the elite. Americans didn't pick this guy, mainstream media did, just like they picked the rest of the candidates. Americans are easily fooled by the talking heads on TV. That's why we will be destroyed as a nation. Too many Americans are easily fooled.
Why would I pay attention to anything a self professed Democrat would say to me? The mere fact that you have an association w/that wing of the Party tells me you have the political acumen of a bowling ball.
I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Ed Rendell said.
As for WHY Obama wants more troops in Afghanistan, I don't know that he really does
Obama's 2006 rating by the Almanac of American Politics (2008) on Foreign Policy is 85% liberal, 12% conservative. (2005: 76% liberal, 15% conservative.) [39]
His first major speech on foreign policy was delivered on April 23, 2007 to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He identified the problems the current foreign policy has caused, and the five ways America can lead again, focused on "common security", "common humanity", and remaining "a beacon of freedom and justice for the world":[40]
"Bringing a responsible end" to the war in Iraq and refocusing on the broader region.
"Building the first truly 21st century military and showing wisdom in how we deploy it."
"Marshalling a global effort" to secure, destroy, and stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction.
"Rebuild and construct the alliances and partnerships necessary to meet common challenges and confront common threats," including climate change.
"Invest in our common humanity" through foreign aid and supporting the "pillars of a sustainable democracy a strong legislature, an independent judiciary, the rule of law, a vibrant civil society, a free press, and an honest police force."
During the speech Obama called for an expansion of the United States Armed Forces "by adding 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines", an idea introduced by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.
In an address on national security to the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars on August 1, 2007, Obama stated that as President he would consider military action in Pakistan in order to attack al-Qaeda, even if the Pakistani government did not give approval.[41] Obama said, "I will not hesitate to use military force to take out terrorists who pose a direct threat to America."[42] He also said "As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations".[43]
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)