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Title: Top general in Iraq war to urge patience
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408 ... t=AgFac3oOyRIXR8cRvqGoTcWs0NUE
Published: Apr 8, 2008
Author: ANNE FLAHERTY
Post Date: 2008-04-08 08:31:59 by angle
Keywords: None
Views: 331
Comments: 31

WASHINGTON - The four-star general in charge of Iraq wants more time in a war that is now in its sixth year. Democrats say he's got until the November elections.

Gen. David Petraeus planned to testify Tuesday on the war for the first time in seven months. He was expected to tell two Senate committees that last year's influx of 30,000 troops in Iraq had helped calm some of the sectarian violence but that to prevent a backslide in security, troops would likely be needed in large numbers through the end of the year.

Under his proposal, as many as 140,000 troops could be in Iraq when voters head to the polls this fall.

Democrats contend that this approach guarantees an open-ended commitment to a $10-billion-a-month war as the economy at home is faltering. They say the lack of political progress made in Iraq, as well as the recent spike in violence in Basra, indicates the troop buildup has failed.

"We need a strategy that will clearly shift the burden to the Iraqis, that'll begin to take the pressure off our forces, begin to allow us to respond to other challenges in the region and worldwide," said Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., a member of the Armed Services Committee.

Democrats also acknowledge that they are more or less helpless in trying to force President Bush's hand on the war. While anti-war legislation has been able to pass the House, it repeatedly sinks in the Senate, where Democrats lack the 60 votes needed to overcome procedural hurdles.

They contend, however, that come fall dissatisfied voters will head to the polls and put more Democrats in power, possibly including an anti-war president. In last month's Associated Press-Ipsos poll, only 31 percent said they approve of the job Bush is doing on Iraq.

Indeed, Tuesday's hearings are expected to be about as much as the presidential elections as they are about the state of Iraq. The three major candidates for president are on the committees for which Petraeus is providing testimony.

Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the No. 1 Republican on the Armed Services Committee, and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., a member of the panel, are expected to use the morning committee hearing to showcase their opposing views on the war. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., will get his chance later that afternoon as member of the Foreign Relations Committee.

For now, Petraeus faces a dramatically different political landscape than last fall when support for the war had been eroding steadily among Republicans. Petraeus' testimony helped shore up GOP defections at the time. And since then, a significant drop in violence has helped stave off legislation ordering troops home.

Recent statistics reviewed by the AP show that while violence in Iraq is still down substantially, there have been spikes in both deaths and attacks since the slow withdrawal of U.S. troops began in December.

The internal strife was underscored by a rise in ethno-sectarian violence between Iraqis in March, the first such monthly increase since last July.

Defense officials also warned Monday of another likely spike in attacks this week, as U.S. forces strike back at militia fighters in Sadr City. And officials also said there are indications that al-Qaida is looking for an opportunity to reassert its influence in the Baghdad region.

With the Petraeus testimony approaching, only a subtle shift is expected in the GOP message. In addition to insisting that troops must stay in Iraq to fight the terrorists, which has been the party line for some time, Republicans are expected to talk more about the need for a comprehensive political settlement among Baghdad politicians. They believe that this tracks more closely with the voters' views that the U.S. commitment cannot be indefinite.

Petraeus' plan would allow the five extra brigades ordered to Iraq last year to withdraw by July without ordering their replacement. After that, he and other military officials would wait to see whether Iraq was stable enough to allow additional troops to leave.

His presentation was expected to include statistics reflecting the reduction in violence over the past seven months. It also will note the latest Iraqi-led operation in Basra and could give lawmakers more detail on the level of Iranian involvement in the fighting.

Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, is expected to testify that there has been modest but positive political progress.

Also this week, possibly on Thursday when Bush addresses the nation on the war, the administration plans to announce that soldiers will spend no longer than 12 months at a time in combat, a decrease of three months in current combat tours.

I say ENOUGH.

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#22. To: angle (#0)

Top general in Iraq war to urge patience

All we are saying, is give war a chance.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-08   19:40:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: MUDDOG (#22)

All we are saying, is give war a chance.

No one seems to care that 4000 Americans have died. Look for replacements, have patience.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   19:44:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

No one seems to care that 4000 Americans have died. Look for replacements, have patience.

It's like Watergate never happened. The imperial presidency rides high.

In a related vein, I recently saw on C-Span, Roger Mudd was reminiscing with Brian Lamb about Nixon's resignation speech.

Mudd said the CBS commentators were ordered by their superior to go easy on Nixon that night when they did the commentary on the evening news, but that Mudd was out of the office and didn't get the message.

So that night on the news, Dan Rather and Eric Sevareid are opining on what a noble speech Nixon gave ("the best of his career" according to Rather), but when it comes Mudd's turn, Mudd says what a maudlin speech it was, that Nixon apologized for nothing, and that Mudd didn't think Nixon helped himself avoid prosecution (this was before Ford pardoned him).

So Eric Sevareid gets mad and starts putting down Mudd on the air.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-08   20:03:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: MUDDOG (#24)

Perhaps it would be better to take the "military" out of the hands of the president, as it was originally intended. With power hungry presidents and a compliant Congress we will have endless wars.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-08   20:10:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#25)

With power hungry presidents and a compliant Congress we will have endless wars.

And look how easy it was for Bush Jr. to invade Iraq merely on his own say-so, based on some kind of personal family score he had to settle with Saddam, whether because Jr. wanted to show up his father by eliminating Saddam where his father stopped short, or because Jr. felt that Saddam's continued existence was an affront to Bush family honor.

This type of exercise of war powers at the sovereign's whim was explicitly warned against in the Federalist Papers.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-08   20:21:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: MUDDOG (#26)

Mud, that was the great cover story. But I don't think that is the real story. Here are a couple of links that changed my thinking about that...........

www.ccc.nps.navy.mil /si/mar03/middleEast2.asp

www.cfr.org/publication/3...in_the_persian_gulf.html? breadcrumb=%2Fregion%2F400%2Fgulf_states

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-08 20:24:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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