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Title: McCain: Iraq success within reach (SPEECH TO VFW YESTERDAY)
Source: Baltimore Sun
URL Source: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/new ... n_iraq_success_within_rea.html
Published: Apr 7, 2008
Author: Jill Zuckman
Post Date: 2008-04-08 19:00:14 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 177
Comments: 12

McCain: Iraq success within reach

by Jill Zuckman

Saying “we are no longer staring into the abyss of defeat,” Sen. John McCain speaks to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Kansas City this morning, laying out his vision of the situation in Iraq just one day before General David Petraeus testifies before Congress.

McCain will tell his audience that the U.S. “can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success” in Iraq. And he defines it this way:

*The establishment of a generally peaceful, stable, prosperous, democratic state that poses no threat to its neighbors and contributes to the defeat of terrorists.

*The advance of religious tolerance over violent radicalism.

*A level of security that allows the Iraqi authorities to govern, the average person to live a normal life, and international entities to operate. It is a situation in which the rule of law, after decades of tyranny, takes hold.

*And it is an Iraq where Iraqi forces have the responsibility for enforcing security in their country, and where American troops can return home, with the honor of having secured their country’s interests at great personal cost, and helping another people achieve peace and self-determination.

Those goals, McCain will say, “are within reach.”

McCain, who just returned from a visit to Iraq, takes on both the Democratic candidates for president who are advocating for withdrawing troops calling their plans “the height of irresponsibility.”

“Some would withdraw regardless of the consequences. Others say that we can withdraw now and then return if trouble starts again,” McCain will say according to prepared remarks. “What they are really proposing, if they mean what they say, is a policy of withdraw and re-invade. For if we withdraw hastily and irresponsibly, we will guarantee the trouble will come immediately. Our allies, Arab countries, the UN, and the Iraqis themselves will not step up to their responsibilities if we recklessly retreat. I can hardly imagine a more imprudent and dangerous course.”

McCain will also defend himself against Sen. Barack Obama’s charges that he would keep troops fighting in Iraq for 100 years.

“I do not want to keep our troops in Iraq a minute longer than necessary to secure our interests there,” he will say. “Our goal is an Iraq that can stand on its own as a democratic ally and a responsible force for peace in its neighborhood. Our goal is an Iraq that no longer needs American troops. And I believe we can achieve that goal, perhaps sooner than many imagine.”

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#1. To: All (#0)

Those goals, McCain will say, “are within reach.”

In other words, he can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-08   19:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0)

“I do not want to keep our troops in Iraq a minute longer than necessary to secure our interests there,”

"Our" interests being?

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-08   19:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0)

John is clearly certifiable.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-08   19:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#1)

In other words, he can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

“We haven’t seen any lights at the end of the tunnel.”
-- General Petraeus in response to Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana, 4/8/2008

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-08   21:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides (#0)

McCain will also defend himself against Sen. Barack Obama’s charges that he would keep troops fighting in Iraq for 100 years.

Did McAnus say it, or didn't he? Damn, what a parade of losers before us.

Barry Obama -- In your heart, you know he's wrong.

Old Fud  posted on  2008-04-08   21:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu_chan, aristeides (#4)

lol, thanks for the reference!

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-08   22:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

McCain will tell his audience that the U.S. “can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success” in Iraq.

Or as Robert McNamara would say, all the metrics show we are winning.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-08   22:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu_chan (#4)

“We haven’t seen any lights at the end of the tunnel.” -- General Petraeus in response to Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana, 4/8/2008

oops! :P

christine  posted on  2008-04-08   22:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#2)

"Our" interests being?

Yes and who are the "Our".

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-04-08   23:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: MUDDOG (#7)

Or as Robert McNamara would say, all the metrics show we are winning.

Now there's a depressing memory.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-09   0:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Old Fud, aristeides (#5)

Did McAnus say it, or didn't he?

It depends on whether one listens to McAnus or Faux News.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk

Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years — (cut off by McCain)

McCAIN: Make it a hundred.

Q: Is that … (cut off)

McCAIN: We’ve been in South Korea … we’ve been in Japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans …

Q: [tries to say something]

McCAIN: As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That’s fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queada is training and equipping and recruiting and motivating people every single day.

John McCain
Derry, NH townhall meeting, 1/3/2008

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJAyu3nf-Lo

Faux News
(Alisyn Camerota and Brian Kilmeade)

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nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-09   2:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides, robin (#1)

In other words, he can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

With youtube video. Perhaps McCain sees the light of an oncoming freight train.


Evan Bayh questioning Petraeus

Run time 2m:22s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dihSro8bddw&feature=user

Petraeus: "We haven't Seen Any Lights at the End of the Tunnel"


nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-09   2:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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