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Title: Mexico Complains of Too Many Repatriated Mexicans
Source: Judicial Watch Blog
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 9, 2008
Author: staff
Post Date: 2008-04-09 17:53:49 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 336
Comments: 20

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Sweeeeet.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-09   18:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ghostdogtxn, *The Border* (#0)

They miss the remittances sent from the U.S. as well as smaller class sizes in local schools.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-09   18:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Representative Florencio Diaz Armenta, asked “what do we do with the repatriated?”

How about treating them like citizens? That's what they are. YOUR citizens.

The United States mostly treated them as if they were citizens here and they weren't.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-04-09   18:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ghostdogtxn, peppa (#0)

State legislators have passed laws barring illegal immigrants from receiving government services, posting bail for serious crimes and winning punitive damages in lawsuits

the law supposedly barring punitive damage awards is interesting, i had not heard of that and i don't know if it would stand up if challenged. when someone is here, illegally or not, they do have basic rights. for example, which is why police cant arrest an illegal and treat them as it does if they were in gitmo. So, when one concedes that rights dont belong only to ''citizens'', that begs the question if they are damaged why cant they have legal recourse?

are they still entitled to jury trials, and if so on what authority does the state have to barr the jury decision?

what about the expatriots or those born in murika who dont voluntarily claim the title of ''citizen'? are they then barred from punitive damages awards in lawsuits too? On what basis??

I think that is BS and wouldnt hold up for ten minutes if challenged, nor should it.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-09   18:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#4)

Not one more dime for this criminal enterprise. Certainly such legal issues wouldn't arise if they followed the legal process to immigrate.

I'm guessing, but I don't think expats have a high expectation of being entitled to squat when they move.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-09   18:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Peppa (#5)

the issues might not arise but id be curious as to if this law could be upheld. for example, one can not hire an illegal and pay them 2 bucks an hour. despite being illegal theyre still entitled, according to the state, with minimum wage laws. this has been ruled on. also, they can not be arrested and carted off without a chance for counsel and read their rights. These are just a few examples of the 'rights' that the states concede are still held by those who break immigration laws.

as far as 'expats', i was refering to those who never left the US and just dont voluntarily claim citizen status. but who still live here,. maybe it's too obscure or small group to discuss, Lol. Eric WHORU on WTPRN.com has a radio show discussing these things. it's interesting. he claims to have beaten a fed. charge in the 70s using this defense, as well as beating driving without a license charge in missouri a few years ago; claiming the courts lack of political jurisdiction.

if i ever meet an illegal alien in arizona who wants to sue someone for punitive damages, ill let you know how it turns out. ;-/

it's just like the cell phone laws here or seat belt laws. if i ever get one i will challenge it on appeal as unconstitutional. then the appeals court would have to rule on it. Basically just challenging the govt on everything. More people should do that.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-09   18:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#6)

the issues might not arise but id be curious as to if this law could be upheld. for example, one can not hire an illegal and pay them 2 bucks an hour.

yes they can.. ways around everything.

I'm sorry I did think you meant expats.. I'd say you have rights, and that is a very interesting topic.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-09   19:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#2) (Edited)

They miss the remittances sent from the U.S. as well as smaller class sizes in local schools.

Aww, poor dears, how shameful that us thugs would force them to consider the consequences of their home-made demographic time-bomb. Maybe we could teach them to build high rise housing projects.

“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac

Dakmar  posted on  2008-04-09   19:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Peppa (#1)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-10   9:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Sam Houston (#3)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-10   9:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#4)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-10   9:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)

Homegrown problem comes home to roost.

That will no doubt keep stirring the pot of hatred to us greedy americans that want to support our families too. The party bosses laugh.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-10   10:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Peppa (#12)

stirring that ole pot

oy vey!!

CadetD  posted on  2008-04-10   10:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Peppa (#12)

The party bosses laugh.

Mere collateral damage in the push for the new reich.

"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-04-10   10:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CadetD (#13)

oy vey!!

Ole!! LOL!

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-10   10:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: angle (#14)

Mere collateral damage in the push for the new reich.

Yep yep yep.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-10   10:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

_______  posted on  2008-04-10   14:56:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: ghostdogtxn (#11)

It's just another example of legislators ignoring the law themselves (in this case immigration enforcement laws) and then passing an invalid measure that violates more rights of others as a fix to their first action. very similar to the REAL ID law, or that law which was quashed in courts, in which certain cities threatend to seize property of landlords who ''rented to ''illegals''.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-10   15:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ghostdogtxn, all (#0) (Edited)

“what do we do with the repatriated?”

We should only throw back 1/2 of them.

Keep the women, they are preferable to the home grown variety that are about as feminine as Hulk Hogan (slutty is not feminine, and present company excepted, I am sure), and toss out the men. Call it a political compromise.

------They may look intimidating, by design, but they aren't bulletproof. -------

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-11   7:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA (#19)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-16   9:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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