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Title: Pentagon issues pocket lie detector to troops
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Penta ... cket_lie_detector_to_0409.html
Published: Apr 9, 2008
Author: David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Post Date: 2008-04-09 19:04:51 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 160
Comments: 9

The Pentagon is planning to give US troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan "hand-held lie detectors" aimed at rooting out potential insurgents and terrorists. But polygraph experts doubt the system's accuracy and Defense Department memos show results of the few tests that were run were manipulated to demonstrate more success with them than was achieved, according to an MSNBC investigative reporter.

"The Defense Department says the portable device isn't perfect, but is accurate enough to save American lives by screening local police officers, interpreters and allied forces for access to U.S. military bases, and by helping narrow the list of suspects after a roadside bombing," MSNBC's Bill Dedman reports. "The device has already been tried in Iraq and is expected to be deployed there as well."

The Pentagon argues the portable polygraphs have accuracy rates up to 90 percent, but Dedman reports the military arrived at those figures by omitting some results from the tests. The Preliminary Credibility Assessment Screening System, or PCASS, uses a hand-held computer that analyzes readings from censors attached to an interviewees hand and wrist. The computer displays "Green" if it believes the person is honest, "Red" if they are being deceptive and "Yellow" if it is unsure.

The Pentagon, in a PowerPoint presentation released to msnbc.com through a Freedom of Information Act request, says the PCASS is 82 to 90 percent accurate. Those are the only accuracy numbers that were sent up the chain of command at the Pentagon before the device was approved.


But Pentagon studies obtained by msnbc.com show a more complicated picture: In calculating its accuracy, the scientists conducting the tests discarded the yellow screens, or inconclusive readings.

That practice was criticized in the 2003 National Academy study, which said the "inconclusives" have to be included to measure accuracy. If you take into account the yellow screens, the PCASS accuracy rate in the three Pentagon-funded tests drops to the level of 63 to 79 percent.

The portable lie-detectors are far less accurate than a typical polygraph, and the Pentagon documents Dedman cites show they are much less likely to give a definitive yes-or-no answer as to whether someone is being truthful. (A traditional polygraph gave uncertain responses 7.2 percent of the time, compared to 27 percent and 16 percent in tests with the PCASS.)

The Pentagon argues that the PCASS is better than nothing, but an expert on lie detector tests calls their approach wrong-headed.

"I don't understand how anybody could think that this is ready for deployment," statistics professor Stephen E. Fienberg, who headed a 2003 study by the National Academy of Sciences that found insufficient scientific evidence to support using polygraphs for national security, told MSNBC. "Sending these instruments into the field in Iraq and Afghanistan without serious scientific assessment, and for use by untrained personnel, is a mockery of what we advocated in our report."

This video is from MSNBC, broadcast April 9, 2008.



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#1. To: robin (#0)

Here's a cheap, effective lie detector.

"The evil man is the child grown strong" - Thomas Hobbes

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-04-09   19:08:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

talk about a setup for abuse of the Iraqi people...my gosh.

christine  posted on  2008-04-09   19:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#0)

What a racket. If you are so worried about someone you are giving them lie detector tests all day you should not be trusting them at all. Still, it will be very useful in some situations.

"I swear, I shot those orphans because my PDA said they were insurgents! I was just following orders."

I also love how the machine sees if you are lieing by measuring stress. Because heaven knows most people are very calm after an IED attack and large men with big guns are asking if you did it.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-04-09   21:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#2)

No body armor, but lie detectors...wonder who owns those firms.

"Hello Rothschild's cattle!" ~ Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-04-09   22:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#0)

The Pentagon argues that the PCASS is better than nothing...

It just gets worse.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-04-09   22:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#3)

I also love how the machine sees if you are lieing by measuring stress. Because heaven knows most people are very calm after an IED attack and large men with big guns are asking if you did it.

Innocent people are always calm, everyone knows that !

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-09   22:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: angle (#4)

No body armor, but lie detectors...wonder who owns those firms.

That was my question too, and how much did they charge.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-09   22:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#2)

Better still, lets use them on our congress critters to interrogate about Constitutional/civil rights issues, etc. If they fail the honesty test, then impeach and remove from office.

If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2008-04-09   22:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#0)

Just think of all the lives that could be saved if these devices were issued to Child Protective Service workers and police departments across America...

"If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution secession is not rebellion." ---Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court delivered his opinion on charging captured Confederate officers with treason

X-15  posted on  2008-04-09   22:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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