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Title: 2 4um members join TLBSHOW and B Yeltsin on my s__tlist - what took me so long?
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 11, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-04-11 06:55:52 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 3190
Comments: 99

This has been my favorite site for a couple of years now, maybe longer and, until recently, I found just about every one here to be honest, intellectually curious and generally open to debate. I value the most people who refuse to wear ideological straight jackets and are willing to overcome the inevitable intellectual and moral inhibitions imposed by life within any social structure. Not everyone or probably no one can do this all the time but there is a difference between those who open themselves to the new and fresh even infrequently and those who choose to never leave their dogmatic cocoon or are always the follower of some 'movement' or leader. I don't find 'followers' to be interesting.

I noticed the recent emergence at this site of a number of uninteresting, moronic, dogmatic, brutally stupid 'posters' whose only purpose seems to be that of screaming their 'views' and to attack (in an uninteresting, moronic, dogmatic and brutally stupid way) anyone who does not buy into their propagandistic nonsense. The specimen calling himself or herself "_______" is a perfect case. The other one that comes to mind now is the "Peppa". I don't remember the history of "_______" and I couldn't care less of what his/her whereabouts were or may be because I'm not interested in stupids. In the case of Peppa, I remember that she used to be a Ron Paul supporter (so was I and I still am in the sense that I agree with many of his views) but she was of the aggressive/possessive type, screaming and hysterically imploring everyone to believe that reality was something other than any normal person could see. And, of course, attacking anyone who stayed rational and objective.

Well... I've never done it until now at this site but I am doing it now. I am banning these 2 because I find their contributions to be boring and worthless. They are joining the ranks of the late TLBSHOW and Boris Yeltsin who are my bannees at the LP site so they are in good company - deep, loudly proclaimed stupidity seems to be what they have in common. I can't say that seeing their moronic, worthless 'thoughts' published at this site bothered me a lot. It's just that I can't spend a lot of time here and, if it's easy to prevent worthless trash from invading my 4um browsing experience, I see no reason not to do it.

I hope that _______ and Peppa are not offended by this. They can still talk to each other. I just don't care what they do so it's fair for me to place them on the Bozo list. _______ is at #1 and Peppa is at #2.

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

I have talked to peppa on a few occasions. Peppa is ok in my book.

What is this about the "late" TLBSHOW. Is TLBSHOW deceased? TLBSHOW is ok too. One question though who is this ___________?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-11   7:12:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Old Friend (#1) (Edited)

I don't know 'who' _______ is and, lucky me, I'll never have to find out because I just threw him over the horizon and will never see him/her again. The Peppa person can get quite aggressive in a somewhat nasty and personal way - as in name-calling - when he/she feels that her world order is threatened. I am annoyed by those who call other people names or 'label' them, usually because they are intellectually lazy or incurious themselves and because they feel threatened by other people's views.

Oh, on the TLBSHOW front... I believe that he disappeared from LP. It's possible that he is active elsewhere.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-11   7:19:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#2) (Edited)

Fill my name in because my mind is a blank (________) is the sort of goober that encouraged me to use my current signature. I am not very excited by any candidate, feel the last two elections were fraudulent and don't have too much hope for this one, but if people want to substitute discussion and the sharing of ideas and views on people and events, I'll defend the least objectionable candidate I want to see defeat the Hilda beast.

I never was fond of the FReeper central premise that if you suppress beliefs and views you hate things will be alright. They don't want to see others they disagree with in their myopic and delusionary forum, and this attitude is useful only because they want the dumbest suckers possible to be able to extract the most money from them without questions come fund raiser time.

If people come out and support a candidate on this forum, they probably are survivors of worse in forum intolerance then ________ or anyone else joining in can dish out.

So they are welcome to continue deploying their fleet of paper airplanes and hot air to try to insult and belittle people away as if that will work here.

But I am here to tell you that that is delusional on their part and a lost cause.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-11   7:38:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Obama is for killing babies. That makes him unqualified to be president. I don't get people like him. Killing people in Iraq is wrong. But killing babies by ripping them apart in the womb is fine and dandy. He has a silver tongue which has you hypnotized. Unless you consider killing babies by tearing them apart ok too.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-11   8:06:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Old Friend (#8)

Abortion is something that troubles me. This is something that I never had to face because both me and my wife are strongly pro-life. However, abortion, like murder, incest, polygamy and child molestation are regulated by the values that the society at large displays. While laws and the social values are never in perfect harmony, the law tends to follow the social consensus on what is good, acceptable, bad and intolerable. The social consensus in the case of abortion, right now, in OUR society seems to be that abortion is 'bad' but, under certain circumstances, it is 'acceptable'. It seems that the social consensus is moving toward making abortion less acceptable than it was 30 years ago but values tend to change slowly. You should not expect a president - the head of the US gov't's executive branch - to be a preacher and a prophet. That should be the preachers' and prophets' job. When a social consensus is reached that abortion is intolerable or when that consensus is near, legislation will follow. That's the way it usually works.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-11   8:15:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

I'll boil it down to this. The declaration talked about LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The constitution said it was to "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the BLESSINGS of liberty to ourselves and our POSTERITY.

So the protection of life is a central government purpose.

The constitution talks about passing on the BLESSING of liberty to our POSTERITY. How can we pass on that blessing when people are killing them. It is one of the constitutions purposes to protect life and ensure justice. Well the illegitimate ROE VS WADE decision doesn't do that. In fact it does the opposite and makes the government the enforcer of letting certain people murder our fellow citizens, their offspring. I wont go on so that I don't change the subject of your post. I just saw the OBAMA banner and had to comment on it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-04-11   8:23:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Old Friend (#11) (Edited)

This may be troubling, and it is, but writings such as the Holy Bible, the US Constitution or the Declaration of Independence are always open to interpretation - or we wouldn't have a million different Christian denominations today. They are usually interpreted in ways that are suitable to the society at large and the interpretation changes as the circumstances change. Under the same constitution that talked about passing the blessings of liberty to our posterity, somehow slavery continued, and slavery is not 'liberty' by any stretch of imagination - can't say that the darkies 'axed for it' - it was the dominant section of society that found slavery while 'bad' to be 'acceptable', at least for a while. Eventually, slavery disappeared but it's possible that we are still living the consequences of eradicating it via violent means rather than simply allowing it to fade away, as it did in other parts of the world.

As for 'abortion', very few women kill their babies because they are killers and enjoy doing it. Some teens are afraid of what would happen to them if their parents found out - some parents would kill their daughters or severely punish them or maybe kill the girl's boyfriend or force them to marry. Post-teen to-be mothers may simply not imagine their life with a baby to raise, which would probably prevent them from continuing their education or keeping their job. Is giving the baby away to be raised by someone unrelated a good option? Maybe it's not always such a good thing. In the past, there was the grandma or maybe an older sister who would take care of the baby or maybe the church would arrange for some good Christians to take him but... I've read Dickens. Life for abandoned or orphan kids in the 19th Century wasn't exactly Heaven on Earth.

Life and death issues are VERY difficult to decide and ending a life that is just about to begin is the most troubling decision to make because there is absolutely no indication whether the baby to be born is about to live a life worth living or is about to begin serving a life sentence in a living Hell. Like I said, I am pro-life myself, I don't believe that babies should be killed but I also believe that, in the end, it's the society at large that collectively decides on this issues, not the government through its punishing arm.

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