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Title: 2 4um members join TLBSHOW and B Yeltsin on my s__tlist - what took me so long?
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 11, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-04-11 06:55:52 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 3625
Comments: 99

This has been my favorite site for a couple of years now, maybe longer and, until recently, I found just about every one here to be honest, intellectually curious and generally open to debate. I value the most people who refuse to wear ideological straight jackets and are willing to overcome the inevitable intellectual and moral inhibitions imposed by life within any social structure. Not everyone or probably no one can do this all the time but there is a difference between those who open themselves to the new and fresh even infrequently and those who choose to never leave their dogmatic cocoon or are always the follower of some 'movement' or leader. I don't find 'followers' to be interesting.

I noticed the recent emergence at this site of a number of uninteresting, moronic, dogmatic, brutally stupid 'posters' whose only purpose seems to be that of screaming their 'views' and to attack (in an uninteresting, moronic, dogmatic and brutally stupid way) anyone who does not buy into their propagandistic nonsense. The specimen calling himself or herself "_______" is a perfect case. The other one that comes to mind now is the "Peppa". I don't remember the history of "_______" and I couldn't care less of what his/her whereabouts were or may be because I'm not interested in stupids. In the case of Peppa, I remember that she used to be a Ron Paul supporter (so was I and I still am in the sense that I agree with many of his views) but she was of the aggressive/possessive type, screaming and hysterically imploring everyone to believe that reality was something other than any normal person could see. And, of course, attacking anyone who stayed rational and objective.

Well... I've never done it until now at this site but I am doing it now. I am banning these 2 because I find their contributions to be boring and worthless. They are joining the ranks of the late TLBSHOW and Boris Yeltsin who are my bannees at the LP site so they are in good company - deep, loudly proclaimed stupidity seems to be what they have in common. I can't say that seeing their moronic, worthless 'thoughts' published at this site bothered me a lot. It's just that I can't spend a lot of time here and, if it's easy to prevent worthless trash from invading my 4um browsing experience, I see no reason not to do it.

I hope that _______ and Peppa are not offended by this. They can still talk to each other. I just don't care what they do so it's fair for me to place them on the Bozo list. _______ is at #1 and Peppa is at #2.

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#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

ROFLMAO!

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-11   10:08:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Peppa, Os (#19)

The Os are taking this selection way too seriously. You'd think after all the education we've received over the years about the American government, and both branches of the national party, they'd agree with us the Agenda will move forward regardless of who is chosen. I'm thinking deep down they know this but are in some sort of denial.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-11   10:17:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

Actually, I am not taking it very seriously. I find it to be more interesting than others even though, Buchanan's struggle to take over Ross Perot's loot and his instant re-morph into 'pundit' the day after 'election day' was more entertaining. I believe we were both with Buchanan those days.

Is this upcoming a 'selection'? Sure it is. You are inside the 2-party system and all you get to choose from is from the menu the 2-parties so generously offer you. In the case of the GOP, I believe that McCain if the perfect representative of what that party is today - and today's GOP party is ugly. Both Obama and Hillary are good approximations of the Demo party but Hillary is a deeply flawed person who should be prevented from reaching the White House. I disagree with the Demo party's agenda as much as I loath the GOP's but the only way to prevent either McCain or Hillary from getting the WH job is to support Obama. As an intelligent and principled person with some sense of humor, I appreciate his intelligence, moral qualities and his sense of humor. Of course, I disagree with a lot of his agenda.

Now, if anyone can come forward with any other way of preventing McCain or Hillary from installing themselves into the WH, please come forward and brief me on the plan. And, please, stating that there is no difference between Obama (a flawed human) and the 2 monsters opposing him is well... naive.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-11   10:29:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)

moral qualities

can you please elaborate as to what you consider Obama's moral qualities?

christine  posted on  2008-04-11   11:43:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#49) (Edited)

elaborate as to what you consider Obama's moral qualities?

Sure.

He's not cheating on his wife, as far as I now. He's got 2 nice girls and, apparently, he loves them. So far, he's on the par with Bush and, maybe, with Hill Clinton too but he's way above the average politician. Now... let's look further.

Apparently Obama, as a student, was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. From what I heard, this is a most prestigious job and it's granted to one of the best students on campus. He finished at the top of his class and he could have joined just about any prestigious law firm and probably get rich soon, like Hillary tried to do or maybe become counsel to some hedgehog fund, like Hillary's daughter did. Instead, Mr. Obama decided to go back to his neighborhood and work as a 'community activist'. Some may disagree with the nature of his community work but it does show idealism and selflessness. These are good moral qualities in my book.

I also like the fact that he is running for president. For a semi-black man with very few connections this shows an enormous amount of courage. The rumor is the Colin Powell did not run for prez himself because his wife was afraid that he would be harmed in the process. Obama decided to take the risk. Courage is a good moral quality.

I also admired the fact that he did not completely repudiate his Rev. Wright. Most politicians would do such thing at the drop of a hat. Remember what Bush did to Lott. Bush is a scumbag because Lott helped him and he was a fellow GOP and all he did was say some words. But Obama had the guts and he was principled enough to say 'no' I will not abandon the man who christened my daughters and wedded me to my wife. This is admirable.

These are some of the qualities that are rare in today's politicians. I am sure that Mr. Obama has many defects but he does not appear to be a monster.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-11   12:13:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine, jethro tull, allthekings'horseswontdoit (#53) (Edited)

The fact that he attended Wright's church, the fact that he did NOT repudiate Wright, and the fact that he is a Wright apologist DOES make him a monster in my book. David Duke, being a white man, could have NEVER in a million years gotten away with this slick teflon trick, but Obama is every bit the racist and has gotten away with it just because he's black.

The hypocrisy sickens me. I vote 3rd party or write in. Voting for Obama is voting for the status quo, only worse. He is the antithesis of Ron Paul in every way.

Are you ready to pay the "world tax?" God help us all. I don't know what has happened to the people on 4UM. Which is why I haven't posted in 2 weeks. "Strong delusion" has come.

IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-11   15:59:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: IndieTX (#73)

Voting for Obama is voting for the status quo, only worse. He is the antithesis of Ron Paul in every way.

Yep.

I'm keeping my pledge of never again voting for the lesser evil.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-11   16:08:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#82. To: lodwick (#75)

"I'm keeping my pledge of never again voting for the lesser evil."

My view of this evolves more slowly then this and is tempered by the in-house pecking order of what is the expectations of fellow activists to believe or advocate.

I am used to pissing people with belief systems similar to mine off. I would rather make people think then to make them happy.

I will never give an entrenched politico like John Kerry the benefit of doubt I did the last election, but will support a younger woman or man who has the choice of what political and ethical paths to take yet ahead of them.

Obama fits that category and I will support and do some work for him as seems appropriate, but I will always be quick to criticize him for bad errors he should not have made and I will not return to the Democratic Party even if he becomes one of the greatest presidents of our history.

I'm afraid that party and I have had a permanent divorce. It sleeps with the Republican party and wears the same clothes. (ugggh!)

I appreciate your personal pledge and understand well what drives your commitment to it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-11 16:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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