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Title: Obama, Clinton cosponsor measure saying McCain is eligible to be president
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/ob ... mccain-can-run-2008-04-10.html
Published: Apr 10, 2008
Author: Klaus Marre
Post Date: 2008-04-11 10:52:07 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 86
Comments: 6

Obama, Clinton cosponsor measure saying McCain is eligible to be president

By Klaus Marre
Posted: 04/10/08 06:42 PM [ET]

In order to counter the views of some pundits, a group of senators, including Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama (Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), on Thursday introduced a measure that clarifies that presumptive GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) is eligible to hold the office.

The effort, spearheaded by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), is meant to counter the views of some pundits, who had openly questioned whether McCain would qualify to be president because he was born on a U.S. naval base and not in the U.S.

“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”

The resolution states that “there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to American citizens serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President.”

McCaskill stated that it would be “silly” to argue that McCain is ineligible to hold the office.

“I would hope that this is something we can all agree on, for goodness sakes,” McCaskill added.

Leahy had also raised the issue during a hearing earlier this month. At the time, he and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, a former federal judge, agreed that McCain would be eligible.

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I'm not sure how an Act of Congress is supposed to affect a constitutional provision, but I suppose it could influence how courts choose to interpret the provision.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-11   10:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't see what the big deal is, unless they are preparing the way for a type of dual-citizen in the near future.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-11   10:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”

The resolution states that “there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to American citizens serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President.”

this is all b.s. this is contrary to all the fraudulent laws they have written based on this fraudulent amendment.

Congress passed the 14th Amendment to slick us all into becoming slaves of the federal government. 14th Amendmnet citizens are not American citizens, even if their forefathers go back 200 years in this country or more. Ask me...this is my pet peeve....makes me madder than a hornet. I was born with this Beast JewCorpUSA's name on my forehead because my parents were off serving this Beast in a foreign country and didn't have the good sense to birth me in one of the states, thus depriving me of my natural birthright as an American. Children born in DC can't be president either, or more importantly, be considered AMERICAN citizens either....they are US CITIZENS as well. Someone born in Texas 1 second after their parents came in illegally are Americans; someoneone born in America of antiChrist Israelis are Americans; WE 14th Amendment citizens, black and white, whose Christian ancestors may go back in this country to the 1600's, oth, are US CITIZENS, CORPORATIONS, "PERSONS", 14TH AMENDMENT SLAVES, not FLESH AND BLOOD MEN AND WOMEN LIKE GOD CREATED US. Address that you @##@#$$ congressmen and women. Making an exemption for McCain for his turn at dictator does NOT take care of the problem. Exposure of the real menace of the fraudulent 14th Amendment [the matter of JURISDICTION and "The validity of the NATIONAL DEBT SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED"] would bring this rotten government down. This is the time for DC residents to jump on this bandwagon and declare that they are "natural born citizens" of the land in AMERICA known as Columbia, as well, so this foreign bankster corporation known as the us government doesn't have anywhere in this country to hang their hat and their onerous "laws" [BABYLONIAN UCC CODE, THAT IS], that have enslaved and impoverished us all.

U.S. Constitution 14th Amendment

The Amendment That Never Existed

......This web site is dedicated to bring you the historical truth in regard to the purported ratification of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The evidence herein exposes the 14th Amendment as a fraud and as such, it does not exist.

It is not the purpose of this web site to have any public official repeal or rescind the 14th Amendment, for to do so would to acknowledge that the Amendment has a lawful existence. The questions raised in many of the articles herein need to be answered and if no answer can be given, all public officials of the federal and state governments need to acknowledge that the 14th Amendment does not exist. If the 14th Amendment does not exist as asserted, then all court rulings and laws made under the 14th Amendment need to be rescinded.

The most recent action taken may be found in the case of Epperly v. Weinstein (U.S. Archivist) (see menu heading "Court Documents" under the subheading "Federal Cases").

Gordon Epperly

"..... Conclusion

The U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment is being applied by the U.S. Congress and the Federal Courts as a tool of war upon the States and their citizens. Even the Negro population has been made a victim of the 14th Amendment in that they were forcefully taken from their homeland and made citizens of the United States by birth and not the choice of free will.

The authors of the U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment had calculating motives in that the underlying purpose of the Amendment was to transfer the reserved Powers of the States and the People to the Federal Government. It allowed the Federal Government to create "Corporations" for the purpose of distributing fiat paper money in "discharge" of debts instead of providing lawful currency in the form of silver and gold coins in "payment" of debts

(see "Payment" vs. "Discharge" in the case of Stanek v. White, 172 Minn. 390, 215 H.W. 784). In other words, the U.S. Congress granted an elite group of people the "Title of Nobility" to control the money supply of our country, the United States of America, and thus they control the politics and policies of our government.

I am not here to pass judgment on the U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment, but if it is the will of the people to turn the Constitution of the United States upon its head via an Amendment, so be it! But only if it is done in a lawful manner.

The U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment was not ratified in accordance to the provisions of the Constitution for the United States of America and as such, it does not exist. It survives as a matter of fraud and deception.

I have done my best to have the question of the ratification of the U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment answered by the Judges of our Federal Courts or by Members of the U.S. Congress, but to no avail. On this web site, you will see my collection of Court Cases, Letters, Articles, and other Documents that show the U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment has no lawful existence. What has to be done next will be a question you will have to decide.

I would like to thank D.J. Connolly for his contribution to this "Introduction." Be sure to visit D.J. Connolly's web page "Two Centuries of Unpunished Usurpation."

Gordon Epperly "

www.14th-amendment.com/introduction.htm

www.14th-amendment.com/Index_Frame.htm

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-11   16:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Certainly the ratification of the 14th Amendment was an extremely dubious proceeding that does not bear close scrutiny. But it's all water under the bridge now, as too much settled law now depends on the validity of the amendment. To overturn it now would overturn most settled law in the country.

You might as well complain about the U.S. Constitution itself. The ratification of that Constitution was contrary to the terms of the Articles of Confederation, and thus itself illegitimate, if you want to get technical.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-11   16:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To overturn it now would overturn most settled law in the country.

fine by me.

You might as well complain about the U.S. Constitution itself. The ratification of that Constitution was contrary to the terms of the Articles of Confederation, and thus itself illegitimate, if you want to get technical.

oh, i have complained about that @#@@E constitution.....work of the devil that one....

Cornwallis to George Washington: "A holy war will now begin against America...."

Ezekiel 17:1-10/John 15:1/Matthew 15:13.

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"....Members of The Pilgrim Society hold numerous star-high seats of power. These levers of influence are always simultaneously coordinated in order to grind down the middle class; to eliminate the non-aligned rich; and to lead us towards World Rule. Since it is the case that they are in control of our national destiny unless we act to expose them and overturn their fantastic power, it behooves us to become aware of them---and then to take corrective action, beginning with Congressional investigations into the British Redcoat/Tory aligned banker organization. Lord Cornwallis, Knight of the British Empire---directly descended from Lord Cornwallis who invaded America at the direction of the British Crown during our Revolutionary War---was listed in The Pilgrims of Great Britain list I received! We went from being a British colony; to being attacked by the British; then being subverted by another of their central bank creations; and being heavily manipulated, to this very moment, by their Secret Society that stands atop the world’s financial pyramid---The Pilgrims! Imagine the reaction of Washington, Jefferson and Jackson, all of whom fought the British, if they knew that our Presidents today are British collaborators! ....." MEET THE WORLD MONEY POWER - The PILGRIMS SOCIETY

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=20574&Disp=7#C7

....Washington and Jefferson wouldn't be surprised...THEY were collaborating with the British www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm .... the only one who would show any disgust would be Jackson....

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President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-11   17:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I thought that this was an "onion" article at first. I never knew this was even an issue - don't people born on US military bases have the same citizenship status as everyone else?

Still, it would be terrific if there was some piece of red tape that would keep Mad Mac from legally running for President.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-04-11   17:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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