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Title: Pope won't break bread with Bush
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Pope_ ... p_White_House_dinner_0411.html
Published: Apr 11, 2008
Author: Nick Juliano
Post Date: 2008-04-11 18:59:11 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 493
Comments: 15

Pontiff not attending dinner in his honor, White House says

The White House has scheduled a dinner next week in honor of Pope Benedict XVI's first visit to the United States, but one guest will be conspicuously absent from the proceedings: the pope himself.

There are no competing events listed on the pope's schedule, and the White House was unable to explain Benedict's absence from the dinner.

The pontiff will be greeted by the president and first lady upon his arrival to the US Tuesday and participate in a Rose Garden appearance and Oval Office meeting with President Bush the next day. A dinner scheduled for later Wednesday night didn't make it onto the Benedict's schedule, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said Friday.

From Friday's press briefing:

Q Just to clarify, for the pope's visit to the White House, you said that now there's a dinner in the East Room in honor of the pope?
MR. STANZEL: Yes.
Q Will the pope actually be attending that dinner?
MR. STANZEL: I don't believe so, no.
Q Okay. Thank you.
[...]
Q I'm sorry. The pope doesn't attend a dinner in his honor?
MR. STANZEL: No.

Q (Off mike.)
MR. STANZEL: He doesn't come into the building.
Q Well, then it's not a dinner for the pope, is it?
MR. STANZEL: It's in honor of his visit. There will be leaders from the Catholic community from all over the country who are in town for that visit.
Q Is there a reason the pope doesn't attend the dinner?
MR. STANZEL: I don't know. I don't have the full extent of his schedule.

Benedict's schedule does not indicate any events that would conflict with his ability to attend the 7:30 p.m. dinner that Wednesday. He is just scheduled to return to the Vatican embassy in Washington at the same time after a meeting with US bishops at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington.

It's unclear why the Pope won't be attending the dinner in his honor, but he is expected to touch on issues upon which he and President Bush disagree during the visit, especially the Iraq war.

During his visit to the United Nations a few days later, the Pope will address "the false notion that might makes right," according to a Vatican representative.

Some experts also predict the Pope would criticize the "culture of fear" in the United States. The Rev. David Hollenbach, director of Boston College's Center for Human Rights, said recently that this culture is seen as integral to the US involvement in Iraq.

"Fear can lead to angry responses," Hollenbach said, according to the Connecticut Post. "I think the pope's message is going to be 'Don't be afraid.' I think the overcoming of fear can take away the impulse for war."

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#2. To: robin (#0)

Probably just as well. Bush would want to shake the Pope's hand and the Pope would have to go back to the Hotel and shower after he touched Bush. Then drive back to eat dinner. The whole thing's just too complicated.

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#3. To: ... (#2)

Bush would want to shake the Pope's hand and the Pope would have to go back to the Hotel and shower after he touched Bush.

You're assuming the Pope would pass up the golden opportunity to refuse to shake Bush's hand.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-11   19:10:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#3)

Romans 13:1-7

13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. NIV

Seems to me like the Pope is refusing to follow the teachings of his own book...

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-04-11   19:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Elliott Jackalope (#7)

Now wait a minute, there have been plenty of articles by pastors outling how Romans 13 is NOT a directive to blindly obey corrupt governments,. matter of fact some would contend it is the opposite. a govt that does not honor its own laws and is not righteous , Christians are not obligated to obey. the government says abortion, gun control and poison vaccines are good. must we obey that? of course not

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-11   21:02:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: Artisan (#14) (Edited)

Now wait a minute, there have been plenty of articles by pastors outling how Romans 13 is NOT a directive to blindly obey corrupt governments,. matter of fact some would contend it is the opposite. a govt that does not honor its own laws and is not righteous , Christians are not obligated to obey. the government says abortion, gun control and poison vaccines are good. must we obey that? of course not

Really? Because it sure seems pretty straightforward to me.

13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

What is ambiguous about that statement? Looks cut and dried to me. "Everyone MUST submit himself to the governing authorities."

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