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Title: Gog, Magog, and the Scroll of Bush - Jewish Sanhedrin Honors George W. Bush as Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal
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Published: Apr 11, 2008
Author: Texe Marrs
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"And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal." Ezekiel 38:1-3 "And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord." Ezekiel 39:6 An historic event occurred in Jerusalem this January, an event chronicled widely in Israel's newspapers but omitted entirely by America's Zionist controlled and owned press. President George W. Bush, visiting the nation of Israel, was presented with a rabbinical decree, the Scroll of Bush. The Scroll declared that he, Bush, is none other than the prophesied Gog, of the land of Magog; that is, Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal. Even as America's economic crisis grew deeper, with hundreds of thousands losing their homes due to mortgage foreclosures, the U.S. stock market sliding south, the U.S. dollar sinking like a rock against foreign currencies, and labor statistics showing unemployment rising as more and more American workers are laid off and manufacturing sent overseas, our President George W. Bush embarked on Air Force One on an eight day trip to Israel. Yes, like bloody Roman Emperor Nero, who reportedly fiddled while Rome burned, a callous and indifferent George Bush left a desperate country and people gasping for breath to go to the Middle East and consult with his superiors33;Zionist rabbinical overlords. Arriving on 666, a Prophetically Appropriate Date He arrived in Jerusalem 1/09/08, numerically translated in occult numerology as 666. On 1/11 (the 11th of January), he and Israeli Prime Minister Olmert, along with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, were taken down into the earth, inside Zedekiah's Cave, for a clandestine ritual and black mass conducted by the Grand Master of Israel's Freemasons. The same day, Bush visited Yad Vashem, Israel's version of the Holocaust Museum, where he stayed exactly 90 minutes, a number again translating into 666. While in Jerusalem, President Bush and Prime Minister Olmert met with the press and referred to several key dates approaching. March 20th would signal the Jewish holy day of Purim, commemorating the mass murder and genocide by the Jews of more than 75,000 Gentile "enemies" of Persia (Iran) in the days of the Jews' Queen Esther. On May 8, Israel celebrates its 60th anniversary. Finally, President Bush predicted that by the end of his term in 2009 (2x9=18, translating again, into that number 666), there will be a peace treaty between the Palestinians and the Israelis. The treaty will insure that the Palestinians will forever be squeezed into their pitiful, apartheid, poverty-stricken ghettos, while the victorious Jews enjoy the fruits of their crimes, luxuriously living in an enlarged, Greater Israel. But those things were not the most significant that happened during Bush's historic visit. No, that occurred on the third day when, at a banquet, President Bush was presented with the Scroll of Bush, a document made out on ancient parchment and signed by the three most spiritually prominent Jews on planet earth: * Rabbi Adan Steinzaltz, High Priest of the Sanhedrin The Scroll of Bush, the first page of which is pictured here, pompously claims to be promulgated, "In the Name of the Lord, Eternal God." Of course, this is not Jesus Christ, since the Jews hate and despise Jesus Christ and brand him an illegitimate bastard and blasphemer in their Judaic Holy Law, the Talmud. Jesus himself said their "Lord" is, in fact, the Devil! Bush Identified as Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal The Scroll goes on to address Bush as, "The Honorable Mr. George W. Bush, President of the United States of America." Then, however, in a most shocking and prophetic manner, the Scroll of Bush, a document representing the entire Jewish nation both in Israel and dispersed throughout the world, a document composed by and authenticated by the highest religious rabbis on the planet, addressed Bush by yet another title: "Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), Leader of the West!" Oh my, oh my. This is an occult mystery of tremendous prophetic significance, one so incredibly deep and so stunningly revealing that I am offering to my friends this month an exhaustive 60-minute audiotape/CD investigative report, carefully and fully explaining what all this means (Gog, Magog, and the Scroll of Bush33;Jewish Sanhedrin Honors President George W. Bush as "Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal" Tape or CD). There can be no doubt that President Bush knows exactly why he holds the satanic title of "Gog, of the land of Magog," also known as Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal. The "Leader of the West," as the Rabbis also put it, "shall be incarnated and possessed by Satan himself in the last days. The Scriptures say he, as Chief Prince, "shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea" (Revelation 20:7-8). Decades ago, as George Bush, Sr., lay naked in a coffin, inside the bowels of the Tomb, the macabre, mausoleum residence of the Order of Skull and Bones, located next to the old town cemetery in New Haven, Connecticut, his fellows performed a hellish death ritual and raised George from his sarcophagus. They gave him, as they do all initiates, a new name. Hence more, George Herbert Walker Bush would secretly be known by the Brotherhood as "Magog." Now, on a mission for his infernal Lord Lucifer, comes President George W. Bush, son of the bonesman named "Magog," to Jerusalem, Israel. There, the chief religious officials33;including the High Priest of the reconvened Sanhedrin, the same devilish body that so long ago commanded that Jesus our Lord be tortured and crucified on a primitive wooden cross33;recognized and honored Mr. Bush as Gog, of the land of Magog, Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1). The Unwise Haven't a Clue Imagine: Three hundred million people residing in the U.S.A. and only a few; the wise who believe and honor the word of God and the Lord's prophetic scriptures ; are able to understand the profound nature of such a cardinal event. Of course, the rabbis and the Masons of Israel, disciples of Satan; they know. But America's Senators and Congressmen, America's TV news celebrities, America's radio talk show personalities, and the dumbed-down, Christ-rejecting masses;they haven't a clue. The wise and informed, however, understand and shall be rewarded. But the careless and wicked shall perish in their ignorance and stupidity. Such is truth. Such is prophecy. "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." 33; Daniel 12:9-10 All the pages of the scroll here: http://www.templeinstitute.org/megillat-bush.htm Final plot of the Kings, and Ruler, and Judges of the earth [Psalm 2]....the Judeo-British-Israel plot to rule in an antiChrist new world order, and to destroy the American military who if they were doing something useful, would be here defending America rather than helping the barbarians inside the gate destroy her, and notice the treachery of these bastards....first they order Bush [Gog] to send in American troops to defend Israel, and out of the other side of their forked tongue they declare they will "summon a sword against him" [well not him, you can be sure the girly prez won't be anywhere near the danger]: Global Elite Promoting ‘End Times’ Myth http://www.historicist.com/articles2/globalelite.htm I DO believe we are in the end of this world as we know it...I just don't think it will be the outcome Bush and pals are hoping for, and which the antiChrist forces have worked centuries for. SJtract1-182 I will summon a sword against Gog on all My mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. ... He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of ... http://scepterofjudah.net/SJtract1-182.html 4um: Scepter of Judah and Thesis Statements [Agenda for World War War... Mar 6, 2008 ... Scriptures Flowing from Immanuel (Isaiah 8:6-10), Spiritual Source of the Global Scepter of Judah. Core Passages and Thesis Statements ... http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75182 I want to know two things.....1) where are the brains of those military folks in the trenches that they haven't dealt with this treason against the American people, NOT TO MENTION THEIR OWN LIVES...and 2)who is that guy in the center of that picture that looks like a parody of the Last Supper???? I don't if the following prophecy is for this time, but the bold words are TRUE: Dan 11:14 — And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Dan/11/14.html almost forgot: Gog and Magog are Khazar Jews, and they invade [have invaded] America, which is Restored Israel.
* Rabbi Chaim Reichman, Chief Rabbi of the Holy Temple
* Dr. Gadi Schel, Chief Representative of The New Jewish Congress 
The Scroll of Bush identifying the U. S. President as the "esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekial 38:1) Leader of the West!" (Click to enlarge) 
President George W. Bush toasts Israeli Prime Minister Olmert during a visit to Jerusalem where Bush was presented the Scroll of Bush honoring him as Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal; That makes Bush "Gog, of the land of Magog." "Magog" of Skull and Bones 
The Tomb: Home to the Skull and Bones
The Tomb, the mausoleum-like dwelling of the 15 bonesmen chosen each year to become favored alumni of the Order of Skull and Bones. Both President George Bush, Sr. and his son, President George W. Bush, were initiated into this secret society. Each was given a secret name and Senior Bush's name was Magog.
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I want to know two things.....1) where are the brains of those military folks in the trenches that they haven't dealt with this treason against the American people, NOT TO MENTION THEIR OWN LIVES...and 2)who is that guy in the center of that picture that looks like a parody of the Last Supper???? Thomas Plantard? "... "A number of times the Scripture refers to Jesus as 'The Branch.' Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH' (Zechariah 6:12). That is one of the names in the Old Testament for the coming of the Messiah. Also, concerning the Branch, we read in Zechariah 3:8, For, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.' Also 'In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious.' (Isaiah 4:2a). He is the servant, He is a man, He is God; He is the God-man, Jesus, who has come... A confirmatory of this is that the brightest star in Virgo is called Spica, which has the ancient meaning of 'The Branch'—a picture of the coming of Christ." (D. James Kennedy) - 872:20-21 Although the constellations in the heavens do not form configurations that are definitively human, animal or vegetable, promoters of the false 'Gospel in the Stars' are of the same opinion as astrologers that Virgo holds a Branch, and that this Branch represents 'the Christ' who will come to redeem the world. E. W. Bullinger actually stated: "The day has here come to fulfill the prophecies concerning Him who is 'the Branch,' 'the Branch of Jehovah,' 'the man whose name is the Branch.'" (939) Knowing that Virgo is the Great Mother Goddess of pagan religions, the Scriptures Kennedy and Bullinger have cited will undoubtedly be used to validate a false Christ who will be promoted as 'The Branch' and whose name will actually mean "branch". And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: - Zech. 6:12 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous BRANCH, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. - Jer. 23:5,6 In that day shall the BRANCH of the LORD be beautiful and glorious... - Is. 4:2 Isaiah 14 also mentions a branch. In the King James Version, this chapter describes the fall of Lucifer who will one day incarnate the Antichrist in his attempt to destroy the world: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an ABOMINABLE BRANCH, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. - Is. 14:12-19 ....." ".... In addition to conditioning the masses to believe their New Age propaganda, another objective of best-selling New Age books such as Holy Blood, Holy Grail is to covertly communicate secret information from the Prieuré de Sion to a specific audience—the global network of secret societies and New Age cults, all of which eagerly await the end of the Age of Pisces and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius. At that point in time, the much despised Church Age will come to a close and Lucifer, in the person of the Antichrist, will reign over a Golden Age, having destroyed the Harlot Church which no longer serves his purposes. In Holy Blood, Holy Grail, there is a childhood photo of Thomas Plantard de Saint-Clair seated on the lap of Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair. This peculiar photograph of Thomas Plantard, seated on the lap of Pierre, is conveying an esoteric message to the occultist. Please take note of the pose, Thomas sitting on the lap of Pierre. Below are some photographs of famous Black Virgins, also called Black Madonnas. Note the striking similarity of the poses of Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair with Thomas and the Black Virgins with their sons who were child gods. Notice also the masculine appearance of the 'Madonnas' and the placement of their sons between their legs: [pic] "Our ancient, battered, much-loved, little-understood Black Virgins are a still-living archetypal image that lies at the heart of our civilization and has a message for us.... The light of nature tells us that life is a pilgrimage, a journey to the stars along the Milky Way, her hero-path, a voyage across the great water in which she is the ship, rudder, and guiding star. "There is clearly no return to the twelfth century, the third century or the third millennium BC. Inanna, Sophia, the Holy Grail and the Church of Amor [Catharism] are no longer available as living realities for us today. There are signs that the goddess now requires to be worshipped in spirit and in truth through the law written in our hearts, rather than in temples built with hands. One old truth is that man and woman, though different, are equal parts of a consciously androgynous whole that is each person's potential reality. Many people, shown photographs of the Black Virgin for the first time, comment on how masculine some of them look." (Ean Begg, The Cult of the Black Virgin) - 272:13,134......." "....Will Thomas Plantard de Saint-Clair be revealed as the reincarnation of Horus, i.e. Nimrod, who will at last unite the world under Lucifer? Recall that the myth of Horus is a distortion of the Genesis account of God's judgment on the Tower of Babel. (Gen. 10 and 11) Not happy with this arrangement, New Agers anticipate the return of Horus as the reincarnation of Nimrod who will finally unite mankind in a glorious revolution which dethrones God. "Like the goddess Isis, who found and restored all of the lost pieces of her husband, Osiris, many are restoring the unity of all life, bringing together the separate parts of humanity—different races, religions and cultures." - 42:62" watch.pair.com/false-christ.html "side-by-side" ========================================= "....Most likely candidate for Antichrist is Thomas Plantard de Saint-Claire, Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion......." ".... Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair (1981-1984/8) - 31:214 * Saint-Clair means 'holy light' (Shekinah). "The name Saint-Clair is derived from the Latin Sanctus Clarus, meaning 'Holy Light'." - 29:297 "Clairvoyance. The faulty of seeing with the inner eye or spiritual sight... Real clairvoyance means the faculty of seeing through the densest matter (the latter disappearing at the will and before the spiritual eye of the Seer), and irrespective of time (past, present and future) or distance." - 316:85.... TRIBULATION / FIRST 3.5 YEARS......" [ATKH shekinah around star of david, and all-seeing eye on Great Seal, "British-Israel/scepterofjudah.net seeks to recreate "Great Tribulation" in Zionist plot] "... * Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion and logical candidate for Antichrist. THOMAS PLANTARD DE SAINT-CLAIR The Grand Master of the Priory of Sion from 1963 until 1984 and possibly 1988, was Pierre Plantard de Saint-Claire. The (grand?)son of Pierre Plantard de Saint-Claire, Thomas, became the Grand Master in 1989 and is therefore considered the most likely candidate in the Merovingian lineage to ascend the throne of Jerusalem as world ruler. The prominence of the Sinclair family is evident in the Labyrinth of the Grail, a synopsis of which shows the Sinclair's historic and esoteric leadership of the Merovingian bloodline. There is a high probability that the Antichrist will come from this bloodline. Alisdair Sinclair and William Cooper may have been eliminated as hereditary competitor of Thomas Plantard de Saint-Clair. * The Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion from 1963-1984, and possibly 1988, was Pierre Plantard de Saint-Clair. "From 1918 to 1963, Jean Cocteau was Grand Master [of the Prieuré de Sion]... Following the unification of various powers into a secret NWO government in 1954, the [Prieuré de Sion] had a major policy dispute. In 1963 with Cocteau's death, Gaylord Freeman, helped by Antonio Merzagora and Pierre Plantard de Saint-Claire, governed the P.d.S. In 1981 Pierre Plantard took over as Grand Master." - 77:81 * In 1989, Thomas Plantard de Saint-Clair succeeded his (grand)father as Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion. Vaincre No. 3, September 1989, page 1 Managing Editor: Thomas Plantard de Saint-Clair 110 Rue Henri Dunant, 92700 COLOMBES THOMAS PLANTARD de SAINT CLAIR becomes Grandmaster of the PRIORY OF SION By virtue of Article XIV OF THE CONSTITUTIONS OF THE PRIORY OF SION: "their titles shall fall as of right to one of their children to be designated by them without consideration of sex." By virtue of article XVI "the various duties and titles of Grandmaster of the Priory of Sion shall be transmissible to their successor according to the same prerogatives." By act dated 6 JULY 1989, Pierre PLANTARD de SAINT-CLAIR, the present Grandmaster, informed the 121 Masters that, in view of the favourable response of 107 votes in favour, 5 abstentions and 9 votes against accepting the proposed succession of title and prerogative, ratification had been made on 6 AUGUST 1989 in PARIS, at 10 o'clock solar time, and that THOMAS PLANTARD de SAINT CLAIR had been proclaimed Grandmaster. Information has been sent to all members of the ORDER. - 836:1......."[more]
".....It was through the establishment of monasteries that **** the Merovingian Jews, **** whose forefathers were the Alexandrian Gnostics, began to infiltrate and mold the theology and practices of the Roman Catholic Church. Many of the popes were Merovingian monks who forced masses of European Jews to convert to Roman Catholicism., with the result that the Church incorporated traditions from both Judaism, the* **** Talmud and the **** Kabbalah. (See: Mystery Babylon the Great: Catholic or Jewish?) We believe it will be from the monastic movement that the False Prophet, a Merovingian, will rise to prominence and power as the Antichrist's right hand man. THE PRIEURÉ DE SION In the thoroughly pagan milieu of Alexandria, an Egyptian priest and magus by the name of Ormesius founded the monastic Society of Ormus. The members of this society included the Therapeutae of Alexandria and ***** the Essenes of Qumran—apostate Jews who had embraced the Neo-Platonist doctrine of the lost continent of Atlantis. Gnostics allege that Ormesius was a convert of St. Mark, however, **** such conversions are a common modus operandi of infiltrators with hidden agendas. ****As a false convert, Ormesius would synthesize Christianity with the paganism of Alexandria, Egypt and establish the monastic society which was the original "Order of the Rosy Cross": "According to Baron de Westerode, the founder of the Rosicrucians was one Ormesius, who had been converted by St. Mark, at Alexandria, in A.D. 46. He purified the Egyptian Rites, and reconciled them with Christianity, carrying his disciples with him, and founded the Society of ORMUS, or of the Light, each member wearing a red cross. To this society the ***** Essenes and Therapeutae joined themselves, and conserved the Masonic Secrets." (Antiquities of the Illuminati, Part 3: 636) The Society of Ormus would eventually relocate to Italy and, in 1070 A.D., move to territory in France owned by Godfroi de Bouillon, the first Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion. There Ormus changed its name to the "Ordre de Sion" and the monks were given a tract of land owned by one Bernard of Clairvaux. St. Bernard, who was the founder of the Cistercian Order of monks, also wrote of the Rule of the Templars. According to Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the Society of Ormus, which became the Ordre de Sion, then became the Prieuré de Sion. ...." THE MEROVINGIAN DYNASTY SATANIC BLOODLINE OF THE ANTICHRIST & FALSE PROPHET
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I was just going to connect a couple of dots to the Vatican next. :} The conspiracy [Psalm 2: Why do the heathen "RAGE...." = "conspire, plot".] just goes on and on and on.....
I was just going to connect a couple of dots to the Vatican next. :} If it weren't for so much prophecy that had to be fulfilled and if He weren't so full of grace and mercy; it should have been over a long long time ago. Really
1) If it weren't for so much prophecy that had to be fulfilled and 2) if He weren't so full of grace and mercy; it should have been over a long long time ago. Really Sorry I had to take a nap....these people wear me out. You made two very good points. I have long believed that the NWO is headed by the Tribe of Dan. Yes, I know "Edom is in modern Jewry," but I have long seen traits of Dan in modern Jewry as well. 1) I think prophecy is on the verge of being COMPLETELY fulfilled. I believe Christian America is the New Israel/New Jerusalem. God told Abraham "his seed" [Gen. 15:13-14/Gal. 3:16...29] would be servants in a land "not their own" and they would afflict them 400 years. ['THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY EXTORTING TAXES FOR 'THE CROWN' (THE 'CITY OF LONDON').] The Israelites were never afflicted 400 years. They were in Egypt 430 years to the day, but it wasn't until "a new king arose who knew not Joseph" arose, that they began to be afflicted. [Exodus 1] Joseph lived to be 110 years old. [Genesis 50:22] When you do all the math of Joseph's age when he began to rule, and when his family came into Egypt, and when Joseph died, the MOST they could have been afflicted would be 360 years. When you figure that "Semitic kings" [sometimes called the "Shepherd kings", who some say were Edomites, and whom "British-Israel" say were ZARAHITES, cousins of the tribe of Dan, from whence comes the "RED HAND" superimposed on the Star of David on the Ulster flag], who were said to rule for about 200 years, then the Israelites were only afflicted about 160 years, if even that. MANY of the colonists who came over to Jamestown were SLAVES, euphemistically [sp?] called "bondservants", but they were SLAVES [see Michael Hoffman: THEY WERE WHITE AND THEY WERE SLAVES]. The London Company that sent them over here were of THE HOLY GRAIL FAMILIES. You might say Christian Americans have been afflicted from the time they PLANTED THE CROSS AS SOON AS THEY GOT OFF THE BOAT AT CAPE HENRY, or very shortly thereafter. At any rate, we are now in that time frame where we are gathered in our land [Zechariah 2:4], and the Gog and Magogians have used us to conquer the whole world, and have stealthily invaded us with their fifth columns, and are now gathering to finish us off: Ezekiel 38:11....... Gog and Magog, according to THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE http://[biblebelievers.org] are the antichrist Jews, and Gog and Magog are the "mascots" of the CITY OF LONDON: http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/visitors/history/gogmagog / http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60690 / http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78446 "...."The statues of Gog and Magog currently standing in the Guildhall were commissioned from sculptor David Evans by Alderman Sir George Wilkinson, who was Lord Mayor when the previous versions were destroyed in the Blitz. The phoenix shield tells us that this is Magog." ....." [I'll get back to the phoenix.] Not only that, but I find it interesting that the statues were destroyed along with much of the city in 1666: "...in 1672, the Pageantmaster Thomas Jordan referred to them as “two exceeding rarities”, and stated that “at the conclusion of the Show, they are to be set up in Guildhall, where they may be daily seen all year and I hope never to be demolished by such dismal violence as happened to their predecessors.” He was referring to the destruction of much of the City by the great fire in 1666. 2) if He weren't so full of grace and mercy; it should have been over a long long time ago. Really The following is often attributed to Jacob, which I disagree with. I believe, and once read a rabbinical writing that said, it refers to Dan: Genesis 49:18 "For Your salvation I wait, O LORD. King James Bible I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD. American King James Version I have waited for your salvation, O LORD. American Standard Version ... bible.cc/genesis/49-18.htm / http://kingjbible.com/genesis/49.htm I knew about this one, and I find it interesting that it is also found in Psalm 119, an endless lament about finding God's grace by FOLLOWING THE LAW. I never thought this psalm belonged in the Bible. It's so incongruent. noone222 once told me, if I remember correctly, that it was thought to have been written by Zarah, or someone in that family. That would make more sense: see http://www.asis.com/users/stag/royalty.html#Zarah [I need to spend some more time explaining Zarah]. Psalm 119:166 I hope for Your salvation, O LORD, And do Your I have waited with hope for you to save me, O LORD. I have carried out your commandments. King James Bible LORD, I have hoped for thy salvation, ... bible.cc/psalms/119-166.htm "....174 I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight. 175 Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me. 176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments." http://kingjbible.com/psalms/119.htm Yo, Dan or Zarah, or whomever you are....LOSE THE TALMUD! KNOCK AND YE SHALL FIND: bible.cc/matthew/7-7.htm / http://kingjbible.com/matthew/7.htm ....... Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. bible.cc/revelation/3-20.htm / http://kingjbible.com/revelation/3.htm Psalm 119:176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek Your Bible in Basic English I have gone out of the way like a wandering sheep; ... Isaiah 53:6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to ... bible.cc/psalms/119-176.htm Isaiah 53:6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, ... bible.cc/isaiah/53-6.htm Yo! Listen up, Danites/Zarahites! The Suffering Servant: Isaiah 53 and Why Isaiah 53 cannot refer to the nation of Israel, or anyone else, but must be the Messiah http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bi...ArtNum=94235&Disp=All&#C1 Revelation 3:9 [See Genesis 50:15-21/ bible.cc/mark/11-26.htm / kingjbible.com/romans/11.htm 25-36. ================================= The phoenix shield tells us that this is Magog." ....." [I'll get back to the phoenix.] The phoenix was originally going to be on the Great Seal. They chose the eagle instead. The Illuminati has pegged America to be the phoenix to go down in ashes, from which their New World Order will arise: DEATH OF THE PHOENIX: FINAL ACT FOR THE USA ... http://watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html I don't worry too much about it. God has promised to be a wall of fire around JerUSAlem, and to knock their "bow and arrows" out of their hand.
You make a compelling argument. I really have a superiorly hard time with New Jerusalem not being currently stationed above Old Jerusalem (waiting to descend), but rather being in North America and more precisely our beloved united States of America. I would have to go back to some areas of the Old Testament again to review and I will do so relatively soon. I'd get a kick out of you knowing the mystery though.
I really have a superiorly hard time with New Jerusalem not being currently stationed above Old Jerusalem (waiting to descend), but rather being in North America and more precisely our beloved united States of America. I recently read somewhere a comment that some "sages" see the "coming down" as more like being "let down". The whole book of Revelation is very symbolic. Review these: "The kingdom of God/Heaven cometh not with observation." "Why stand thou looking up in the clouds? The Lord will return the same way He went up". [paraphrase] Would He come back the same way, in reverse this time? Like a mustard seed, perhaps, that grew and grew until BAM! you see a tree that fills the whole earth? Those are only two that come to mind at the moment. Oh wait....see Matthew 13 and Luke 13. He describes the Kingdom: wheat vs tares, sheep vs goats, mustard seed vs. LEAVEN [Beware the Leaven of the Pharisees!]. It's all right here.
Where will the Temple be built ?
1Cr 3:16 — Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? EXCERPT: ye are 2Cr 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. Hbr 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. 1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=1Cr&c=3&v=16&t=KJV wait a few [or more....] let me gather my thoughts and go back to the building of Solomon's temple....
The Holy Temple is rebuilt and then Messiah returns. Prophetic timetable for the Temple rebuilding Paul is assuring the holy ones that they have no need to be troubled about whether or when they will be gathered to be with the Messiah. He warns them not to be deceived otherwise. Y'SHUAH will not return and they will not join Him at His coming until there comes an apostasy (a falling away from the truth which began almost immediately after the apostles died) and, the “man of sin” be revealed. So as not to leave anything in doubt, Paul gives the sure event which will reveal this man. The event is the act of him sitting “in the temple of G-d, showing himself that he is GOD”. This means the “man of sin” cannot be revealed without the Temple being rebuilt. In addition, this whole event precedes the coming of Y'SHUAH and the “gathering up” of the holy ones. Therefore, according to the record of the Apostle Paul, the end cannot come until the Temple of GOD is rebuilt. The rebuilding of the Temple precedes what many Christians call the “rapture”, which is the gathering up of the holy ones, both dead and living. Revelation 19:11,14,15: “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He who sat on it was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean ... And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should punish the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron. and He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of El-Shaddai.” And relating to the resurrection event with the time of Messiah’s coming: Revelation 20:4, 5 “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them ... and they lived and reigned with the Messiah a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection ” Paul showed that both the resurrection of the dead and catching away of the living happen when Messiah returns to the earth (2 Thess 4:16,17), and Revelation confirms that these events coincide. In chapter 13 of Revelation we see the “man of sin” revealed, herein called the “beast” or “creature.” Here the “man of sin” blasphemes GOD’s dwelling place. This parallels Paul’s account of him sitting in the Temple and declaring he is GOD. In addition, in Revelation’s chronology, the Temple is already rebuilt at this point, because it’s reconstruction is told before chapter 13: Revelation 11:1, 2: “And there was given to me a reed, like a rod. Then the messenger stood, saying, ‘Rise, and measure the Temple of GOD, and the altar, and those that worship therein. But the court which is outside the Temple leave out, and do not measure it, for it is given unto the Gentiles, and they shall tread the holy city under their feet forty and two months.’ ” Therefore, if we accept the general chronology of Revelation, allowing exception for some parenthetical historical material which is set forth in parabolic passages (such as, “the Woman and the Man-Child” in Revelation 12), then there is a firm scheduling of events in John’s Revelation which shows the Temple is rebuilt (Revelation 11,13) before the coming of Y'SHUAH and our gathering to Him (Revelation 19, 20). Matthew 24:4 “And Y'SHUAH answered and said unto them, ‘Take heed that no man deceive you,’ ” . He then began to describe a definite chronology of events which must transpire in the order given (if you believe He is the infallible Holy One). The “Holy Place” (Mikdash) in which the abomination takes place is, of course, the Temple, for Mikdash is the correct Hebrew word for Temple. The one committing the abomination is the “blasphemer” spoken of by Daniel, who must be Paul’s blaspheming “man of sin” and Yochanan’s blaspheming “beast”. The record shows that the Temple must be in place before the abomination takes place. It shows the abomination must take place before the great tribulation period. The great tribulation takes place before sun and moon are darkened. The sun and moon are darkened before the Messiah appears in the clouds. The “gathering together” of the chosen holy ones takes place with the appearance of Y'SHUAH. This gathering by the angels/messengers is the only act of preservation of the holy ones which Y'SHUAH mentions, and must be the same as the “gathering together unto Him” which Paul tells about, which means it is the resurrection of the dead and the catching up of the living. Therefore, Y'SHUAH declares the Temple to be in place before He comes again, and before the resurrection and catching away (“rapture”). These three witness agree as one, without any conflict. It’s simple, easy to understand, clear, and without confusion. The Temple of GOD will be reconstructed before Y'SHUAH returns for His holy ones.
I dont understand why people think Paul was a traitor. But you post the above about a literal temple being rebuilt and use a scripture written by Paul to prove it. WHat is the temple Paul writes about? 2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are (5748) the temple of the living (5723) God; as God hath said * (5627) , I will dwell (5692) in them, and walk in (5692) them; and I will be (5704) their God, and they shall be (5704) my people. You're the temple, and the man of sin (you and me) sits in that temple being our own god. Unconverted people "oppose and exalt himself above all that is called Elohim, or that is worshipped". Tearing down that temple exposes the "man of sin", YOU. Until that happens, the concept of sin is silly. After that happens, it's not so silly anymore. But, to each his own.
Paul of Tarsus (Saint Paul, the apostle Paul) persecuted the original Christians and helped Rome eradicate them, for heresy of all things.
Actually he helped the priests eradicate them, not the Romans. He was on his way to Damascus to imprison and murder more when he was converted.
#63. To: PSUSA (#62)
I'm not only talking about what he did BEFORE his self proclaimed "conversion" in regards to his "vision", I'm talking about what he did afterwards... If you haven't yet seen this, perhaps you should take a look. It's pretty much in tune with anything you could find in regards to historical fact and related reference material...
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#40. To: Rotara (#38)
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#52. To: Rotara (#51)
what???
#53. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#52)
Ground rules for interpretation of scripture.
Scripture can only be interpreted by scripture. If it does not all flow together something is not right. Secondly, scriptural interpretation must be simple enough that common people can understand it. If interpretation becomes a convoluted mixture it causes confusion, and that, we know, is not of God, because it does not allow instruction in righteousness. Thirdly, let’s put the idea of "rapture" in correct perspective. What is called “rapture” by many is actually a misnaming of "our gathering together unto Him [Messiah]," 2 Thess 2:1. This “gathering together” includes two events: 1) the resurrection of the righteous dead, and 2) the changing & catching away of the righteous living to meet Messiah in the atmosphere. These two events happen in unison, with the resurrection of the dead preceding the changing/catching away of the living, if only by a short span (1 Thess 4:16,17). So, being faithful to scriptural terminology, I will not use the unscriptural term “rapture”, but instead I will use “catching away” or “gathering up” as a paraphrase of the scriptural “gathering together unto Him” and being “caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD in the air,” 1 Thess 4:17. By using the term “gathering up” I will refer to both the resurrection and the catching away. With this understood, I will rephrase the first sentence: The Temple of YHVH (GOD) in Jerusalem will be built again before Messiah Y'SHUAH returns at the gathering up of His holy ones.
The Temple of GOD will be built again before Messiah Y'SHUAH (Jesus) returns for His people. This is proven on the basis of the New Covenant (B’rit Chadashah) writings of Paul (Sha’ul), John (Yochanan) and Matthew (Mattityahu) quoting Y'SHUAH. It was Y'SHUAH who said, “in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word will be established,” Matt 18:16. So, starting with Paul, as the first witness, I intend to show unmistakably that the Temple must be built before Y'SHUAH comes in His Kingdom. In fact, it will be built before the resurrection and “rapture” of the saints.
SHA’UL, (Paul) our first witness
2 Thessalonians 2: 1-4: “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Ruler, Y'SHUAH the Messiah, and by our gathering together unto Him, that you not be soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Messiah is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall not come, until there comes an apostasy first, and that man of sin be revealed, the condemned offspring, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called Elohim, or that is worshipped. So that he, as Elohim, sits in the Temple of GOD, demonstrating himself that he is Elohim.”
YOCHANAN, (John) Our second witness
The second witness, John, in the book of Revelation, is not as straight forward as Paul, because there are various opinions concerning the chronology of Revelation, and Revelation is more allegorical in nature. However, if we accept the general chronology of Revelation, which this writer does, then we can see a correlation between Revelation and Paul’s prophecy in 2 Thessalonians. The Messiah returns to earth:
Revelation 13:1,6: “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a creature rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy ... And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against GOD, to blaspheme His Name, and His dwelling place, and those that dwell in heaven.”
Matittyahu (Mathew) quoting Y'SHUAH, (Jesus) our third witness:
Y'SHUAH also prophesied these last day events with succinct clarity. It was His desire to prepare His disciples that were to come for the events surrounding His “day”, the time of His return.
Matthew 24:15,16,21,22,29-31: “Therefore, when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy Place, then let them which are in Judah flee into the mountains ... For then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be again, and except those days should be shortened, there would no flesh be preserved, but for the chosen ones’ sake those days shall be shortened ... Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give it’s light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken, and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in the atmosphere, and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of the atmosphere with power and great glory ... And He shall send His messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the atmosphere to the other.”
#58. To: Rotara (#53)
and that man of sin be revealed, the condemned offspring, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called Elohim, or that is worshipped. So that he, as Elohim, sits in the Temple of GOD, demonstrating himself that he is Elohim.”
#61. To: PSUSA (#58)
I dont understand why people think Paul was a traitor.
#62. To: FormerLurker (#61)
Replies to Comment # 62. He was on his way to Damascus to imprison and murder more when he was converted.
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