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Title: Obama on small-town PA: Clinging to religion, guns, xenophobia
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhi ... -surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
Published: Apr 11, 2008
Author: Ben Smith
Post Date: 2008-04-11 19:39:50 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 6026
Comments: 263

Obama on small-town PA: Clinging to religion, guns, xenophobia

Huffpo's Mayhill Fowler has more from Obama's remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser Sunday, and they include an attempt to explain the resentment in small-town Pennsylvania that won't be appreciated by some of the people whose votes Obama's seeking:

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations. That's a pretty broad list of things to explain with job loss.

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#2. To: christine, *Obama 2008* (#0)

They complain (particularly about their governor and Clinton surrogate Ed Rendell, who doesn't seem as popular as the media make him out to be), but they endure.

robin  posted on  2008-04-11   19:48:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin, christine, Jethro tull (#2)

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

I see Clinton and McKooK have picked up on this.

We hill billy white trash of small town Pa. do own guns, always have, do go to Church always have, and we do dislike slicks from Chicago or any other large city that pass by with their arrogant mouth.

"antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment"

You bet, we now have blacks, all from the eastern cities, and every one of them are on welfare, living in taxpayer subsidized housing, not a one of them work.

Tell you what slick, up front, hundreds of us changed registration just to vote against you on April 22.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-11   19:56:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#4)

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Up yours Barry Hussain.....sell that crap to the California freaks. I'll be here with my guns.

I just came back from a Ron Paul rally at PSU. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of kids (1500, give or take in the rain) and their desire for freedom from central government.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-11   20:01:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull, robin, christine (#6)

This from McKooK...

"McCain adviser Steve Schmidt called Obama’s statement “remarkable” and “extremely revealing.”

It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking,” Schmidt said. “It is hard to imagine someone running for president of the United States who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

Schmidt also said it shows Obama views the people he’s trying to relate to with “contempt.”

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-11   20:18:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Is he talking about this statement? I see nothing in this to get upset about.

robin  posted on  2008-04-11   20:33:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#11)

Is he talking about this statement? I see nothing in this to get upset about.

It's a slap to the gun culture, and given his previous statements on the 2nd, will hurt him. It's already leading the cable news shows.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-11   20:39:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

He's saying that it is not surprising that there is a lot of distrust in a small community that has been through job losses, IMO.

robin  posted on  2008-04-11   20:43:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin (#16)

He's saying that it is not surprising that there is a lot of distrust in a small community that has been through job losses, IMO.

While there are a cpl small towns here, that "may" fit his statement, the other 99% of Pa does not fit it.. Yes, we have Guns, Yes, we go to Church and Yes, we have lost Jobs, but we Don't Give Up and we sure don't Give In..

Refinersfire  posted on  2008-04-11   23:26:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Refinersfire, robin, christine, Jethro Tull (#35)

This from the Washington Times..

"It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he said.

"Robert A. Gleason Jr., chairman of the Republican Party of Pennsylvania called the remarks "incredibly insulting" and predicted that many in his state, where Mr. Obama has trailed Mrs. Clinton in surveys and polls poorly against Mr. McCain, would agree.

"In light of this most recent statement, I believe Americans are going to have even more questions about his values. Not only do these comments reveal a condescending elitism, Obama illustrates to us just how out of touch he is with middle-class America." Mr. Gleason said."

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-12   7:14:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#40)

I'm not surprised that Barry slipped on a banana peel, after all haven't we spent the better part of last month documentation his various left-wing political positions? Even his admirers can't rationally argue that he isn't a gun grabber. What blows me away is that despite what we've uncovered, he is still their guy. Geraldine Ferraro is right; if he were white, he'd never be where he is today.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-12   8:25:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

What blows me away is that despite what we've uncovered, he is still their guy.

I've heard people say they will not vote for the lesser "evil". Well I will, even though Diebold exists; I must try to minimize the damage.

John McCain is so undeniably worse than Barack Obama, there is no contest. Europe is "socialist" or "liberal", yet they are not on the brink of destruction, yet. But we are. We can survive a liberal presidency, but we will not survive another NeoCon administration.

robin  posted on  2008-04-12 08:59:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull, robin (#41)

I have to wonder which half of Obama is it that supporters are so in love with.

For some reason I suspect it is the black half.

In reality it appears to be the white half that is speaking. Blacks that I know love their guns and go to church, and like Obummer, live in white neighborhoods.

So we have a far leftwing gun grabber that parades his ties to a church that thinks that is all a bad idea.

"Appears that Obama white is conning the white guilters".

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-12 09:22:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

Speaking of predictions, weren't you telling all of us a while ago that the Rev. Wright's comments had destroyed Obama's political chances?

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-12 12:09:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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