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Title: About 3 ½ years after The Washington Post first reported it, President Bush acknowledged he sanctioned meetings on harsh interrogations of detainees.
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URL Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/519/story/492943.html
Published: Apr 13, 2008
Author: Dan Eggen
Post Date: 2008-04-13 10:02:07 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 138
Comments: 9

CRAWFORD, Texas -- President Bush said Friday that he was aware his top national security advisors had discussed the details of harsh interrogation tactics to be used on detainees.

Bush also said in an interview with ABC News that he approved of the meetings, which were held as the CIA began to prepare for a secret interrogation program that included waterboarding, or simulated drowning, and other coercive techniques.

''Well, we started to connect the dots, in order to protect the American people'' by learning what various detainees knew, Bush said in the interview at his Texas ranch. ``And yes, I'm aware our national security team met on this issue. And I approved.''

The remarks underscore the extent to which the top officials were directly involved in setting the controversial interrogation policies. Bush suggested in the interview that no one should be surprised that his senior advisors, including Vice President Dick Cheney, would discuss details of the interrogation program. ''I told the country we did that,'' Bush said. ``And I also told them it was legal. We had legal opinions that enabled us to do it.''

The Washington Post first reported in January 2005 that proposed CIA interrogation techniques were discussed at several White House meetings. A principal briefer was John Yoo, then a senior Justice Department attorney and author of a draft memo explaining the legal justification for the techniques the CIA sought to employ.

The Post reported that the attendees at one or more of these sessions included then-presidential counsel Alberto Gonzales, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, then-Defense Department general counsel William Haynes II, then-National Security Council legal advisor John Bellinger III, CIA counsel John Rizzo, and David Addington, then-counsel to Cheney.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

`And I also told them it was legal. We had legal opinions that enabled us to do it.''

Legal opinions which make you all war criminals.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-13   10:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

And yet the Democratic Party will do nothing about it. There MAY be faux investigations during this election season, but they will only be kabuki theater to make the Republican Party look bad. Why? Because in the end, the Democratic Party will continue these same abuses once they obtain power.

And the American people not only do not care, they applaud the torture techniques used. This is how far into immorality we have sank.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-13   11:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Hayek Fan (#2)

And yet the Democratic Party will do nothing about it. There MAY be faux investigations during this election season, but they will only be kabuki theater to make the Republican Party look bad. Why? Because in the end, the Democratic Party will continue these same abuses once they obtain power.

you got it...and when the dems get our guns...

christine  posted on  2008-04-13   11:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#3)

you got it...and when the dems get our guns...

But the important thing is we'll have free heatlh care!!! /sarcasm

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-13   12:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

Let's forget about the word "torture" for a minute. If the police do this stuff to suspects, most lawyers would argue that it's coercion for confession statement signing and the resulting confession is thus unreliable, and they would most likely be right, as has been shown to be the case so many times before.

nobody  posted on  2008-04-13   12:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hayek Fan (#2)

And the American people not only do not care, they applaud the torture techniques used. This is how far into immorality we have sank.

When Obama calls for ending torture, closing Guantanamo, and restoring habeas corpus in his stump speeches, he gets big applause from his audience.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-13   12:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#6)

When Obama calls for ending torture, closing Guantanamo, and restoring habeas corpus in his stump speeches, he gets big applause from his audience.

Of course there are people who are against it. At the same time however, I have seen polls that the majority of the American people approve of it.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-13   12:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#3)

It woke me up a bit to find that the British apparently do not use plea- bargaining, and now Gates is criticizing the British for that. I believe it's yet another form of coercion which, as with all other, produces unrelible results. The US is trying to drag the world to its level while calling coerced confession something that serves freedom through justice. I'm quite sure the British are able to subvert justice without plea- bargaining, however, as there are many other ways of generating false information.

nobody  posted on  2008-04-13   12:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, Hayek Fan (#3)

And yet the Democratic Party will do nothing about it. There MAY be faux investigations during this election season, but they will only be kabuki theater to make the Republican Party look bad. Why? Because in the end, the Democratic Party will continue these same abuses once they obtain power.

you got it...and when the dems get our guns...

As I see it.

Up until now, bushkie and Co. denied, covered-up, and destroyed evidence in just about everything they were engaged in including the interrogation of suspected terriorists, real or invented.

Now, with the election coming up and any chance for impeachment has past, the neocons and bushkie are breathing a little easier. All of the candidates who may have had a chance to get elected and gone after this corrupt administration have either been marginalized or are now out of the race and those remaining are on the same team as bushkie and Co.

But there is still lingering in my mind that bush is not going to leave the whitehouse come January 2009. As the economy tanks, the food supply is depleted, and the people cower in fear and hunger, the guns will disappear.

At this point we will all beome even more like the sheep we all deny that we are. I am trying to be nice to people on here because some may end up being concentration camp guards for the next emperor and might turn out worse than Ivan the Terrible.

If in fact bushkie does leave the throne it will be because they already know that mclame has already been the annointed replacement and with the diebold machines his cornation is a sure bet.

Everyone had better prepare for what is rapidly coming down the road.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-04-13   13:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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