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Title: Now He's A Godless Commie
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Andrew Sullivan's Daily Dish
URL Source: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.c ... 8/04/now-hes-a-godle.html#more
Published: Apr 14, 2008
Author: Andrew Sullivan
Post Date: 2008-04-14 10:17:18 by aristeides
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Views: 481
Comments: 28
Now He's A Godless Commie Bill Kristol, trained in the same politics as Hillary Clinton, now argues that Obama's remarks in a fundraiser q and a are the "real Obama" - and that his voluminous writing and speaking about the sincerity of his own religious faith, and of others, are presumably "masks." The reason for inferring Obama's Marxism is the following point Obama artlessly made about the way in which economic distress can alter people's tolerance for others: Is this indistinguishable from saying, along with Marx, that all religion is an obviously false consciousness caused by the alienation of the world-historical class struggle? No, it obviously isn't. It's saying that economic distress does often in human history express itself in more rigid forms of religion, more reactionary cultural identification, less tolerance of "the other." Since large swathes of human history have shown this to be true - and perfectly arguable without any materialist understanding of religion - Kristol is deliberately distorting to paint Obama as a cynical manipulator of religious faith for political ends, rather than as a genuine Christian. He's calling him a lying, Godless communist. You could argue, as Kristol and others hilariously will, that Lou Dobbs has no base, that fundamentalist Christianism has no problem with "the other" in a globalized world, that dozens of state constitutional amendments banning civil marriages that had never and would never have taken place were just spirited forms of civic engagement, rather than scapegoating or politicking on resentment. You could also argue, as others legitimately will, that spasms of economic distress and social discontent are unconnected. Hey: Weimar had nothing to do with Hitler. But Kristol is doing something much more pernicious: he is saying that Obama is faking faith, that his very profession of faith is a "mask" that is slipping, and that Kristol is the person to determine whose faith is genuine and who is a fraud. A non-Christian manipulator of Christianity is calling a Christian a liar about his own faith. That's where they've gone to already. And it's only the middle of April. What are they so scared of?
"It’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#4. To: aristeides (#0)
It's odd how the Republicans don't offer a word in support of their candidate, just horror and outrage about the color of Obama's socks or what he might have been think when when he uttered some otherwise innocuous phrase.
So does Bush and so does McCain and so do I. What I see is two sound bites in a 40 year career that can be used for riling the goobers. Sounds like Clinton and Ron Brown buying cocaine from alien beings at Mena to me.
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#5. To: ... (#4)
It's not about the color of his socks, but the company he keeps. Obama has some nasty, racist friends.
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
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It's not about the color of his socks, but the company he keeps. Obama has some nasty, racist friends.
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