Title: 4um poll. Are there any here who consider themselves a D? An R? Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Apr 14, 2008 Author:me Post Date:2008-04-14 10:55:39 by Jethro Tull Keywords:None Views:3146 Comments:242
I'm thinking we have some died in the wool Ds, and that might explain, in part, the Obama pimping.
Poster Comment:
I'm a reformed R, who now is a electoral non-participant.
As I said before, the elites don't care if these people have guns. It placates these people and the guns pose no real threat to the elites.
They sure placate me as they've saved my life. Hell, I've even seen where some dumb rube protected his family with a gun. So, again, why would an elite such as Obama press forward anti gun legislation if the damn things work so well and pose no threat to the established order?
So your argument is since we're not going to use them, we might as well ignore the laws they cook up for us?
No, see my second post on this.
Guns have value against criminals and rioters, or against other civilians if there is some sort of breakdown in society. So I'm not anti-gun and I see a value in them. I own a great many myself.
What I am saying is that the elites don't fear an armed population. At least not with the arms the population is now allowed to legally own. So government elites fearing an insurrection isn't one of the real drivers behind the gun control issue. They don't care if a 375 lb guy in Dallas owns a shotgun. He can't really hurt them with it and they could very easily get it away from him if it ever became a danger to them.
They sure placate me as they've saved my life. Hell, I've even seen where some dumb rube protected his family with a gun. So, again, why would an elite such as Obama press forward anti gun legislation if the damn things work so well and pose no threat to the established order?
Jethro...
Hint, hint, all those suits with sun glasses around Obummer have got BEEEEGGG guns in their pockets. Now, why is that???
Is Obummers hide worth more than mine or my family?????
God, fifty years ago, and we're still there at our battle stations. Toss in Germany, Japan and Italy also. In fact, I think our military is in more than 120 nations. And Obama claims he'll remove the kids from Iraq? The boy's still on crack.
That's how the Nazis controlled France, one or two informants per village and it was over for the resistance.
It's the people in hick Pennsylvania that are as hysterical about guns as they are about two queers in the tenderloin getting married.
At least in hick PA people can escape from the city. I wanted to post what polak at lf writes about the Poles and how they handled the informers, like the one who ratted out polak's grandmother who was killed by the Germans for harboring someone. He said the townspeople burned down the house with the informant and his whole family inside. Informant problem solved. I think this approach is highly effective.
God, fifty years ago, and we're still there at our battle stations
I have friends that are buried there, some God forsaken place, in North Korea, MIA, written off by our elite government.
I did not know where the damned place was. But not to worry, I was soon exposed to Korea and China and Russia. Our country had plans to blow them all to hell and gone and I was invited to the first fight.
#132. To: angle, Jethro Tull, Peppa, christine (#130)
At least in hick PA people can escape from the city.
Short story.. Many years ago was in Annapolis on legal matters. Met and chatted with elderly gentleman that was head of a prestigious law firm there. During our conversation, he mentioned he owned a cabin near me back here in the hills and said he visited it once or twice a year, maybe for a little fishing.
I asked if that was his main purpose of ownership and his answer required no explanation. He said, "We keep it...just in case".
Guns have value against criminals and rioters, or against other civilians if there is some sort of breakdown in society. So I'm not anti-gun and I see a value in them. I own a great many myself.
Jeez, call me paranoid, but throughout history rogue governments have confiscated private guns. England and Australia come to mind most recently. I speak for myself afa what I'll do should that happen here.
I agree with your above statement, and if given his druthers, Obama would make anyone who uses them against a criminal, a criminal.
That won't sell with the legions of unkempt, toothless, low IQ'ers out here.
Obama: the more you learn about him, the more ill you become.
"...in 2004, right before the 2004 election, right before the Party fooled your moronic ass into voting for Bush the SECOND time, you told us that Bush would get the deficit cleaned up right after the election."
One time I was on Saipan with my National Guard SF unit driving about in duce and a halves looking at infiltration and exfiltration points. We stopped at suicide cliffs and the last command post of the Japanese which is a ruptured rock and concrete entity adjacent to the Buddhist memorials at the base of this cliff where so many took their lives when we retook that island.
We were leaving and several bus loads of Japanese arrived and besieged us. Our Co let us dismount our vehicles to be props to the delight of this hoard of people who run in herds by nature and always own the finest in audio visual equipment.
It was an strange feeling if you knew of the full history of the fight and spilled blood that had been all around where we were just a few short decades before.
One interesting thing about it was that the Chimorros selling fruit and libations there had given us refreshments on the house, and when the Japanese showed up, the high prices were back in force.
I wonder if we are still well liked there as this was in the eighties, and the sour attitude toward us in Guam might have filtered up into the rest of the Marianna Islands by now.
"BTW...what's a cuff? And how do you laugh up it?"
Thats when you are trying to pick the cuff with a bend paper clip in your mouth while your the guy cuffed next to you is making you laugh at blond jokes while you are trying to work. Most people know and appreciates that in a situation where people are tense anyway and disposed to nervous laughter, never make them laugh on their cuffs.
Do we always have to explain such basic things to you, or do you just have a brain cramp this morning? ;-)
One interesting thing about it was that the Chimorros selling fruit and libations there had given us refreshments on the house, and when the Japanese showed up, the high prices were back in force.
I wonder if we are still well liked there as this was in the eighties, and the sour attitude toward us in Guam might have filtered up into the rest of the Marianna Islands by now.
At opening shot of the Pacific war, Japan held the Northern Marianas Islands. They invaded Guam with 5000 soldiers with full equipment. On Guam the US had 128 Marines, one machine gun, rifles for all and a few .45 cal for the few.
Having "visited" Guam a few times during the Korean war, the Japanese were not well liked from war memories.
If you have time, use google and take a look at what is going on there now, preparations are being made for much larger affairs than Iraq. If you take the time, study it well with a large world map in view, you will see what is afoot.
Nothing short of selling guns at the White House gift shop will assuage the gun nuts.
Ico;
DC is a gun-free zone.
For ten points, and control of the clock, guess the color and political affiliation of the legislators from the District who thought that was a swell idea?
that 2nd amendment position that obama holds is appalling, imo. i'm changing my mind about wanting him to have the op to fulfill his promises for change, on that one issue.
God forbid the economy gets as bad I think it's going to.
If you live in the suburbs of any city of any size, you may see the day when when local guns laws may not seem such a horrible idea.
At any rate, it's an SC issue.
Cool your jets.
I've learned that single issue voting can bite you in the ass.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
"Mud, why do you think everyone laughs up their cuff at you?"
I've never figgered that one out either...MUD
I didn't expect you to figure it out, and Hannity doesn't want you to know so he'll just fill your head up with shit - like he always does - if you ask him.
So let me help you here.
The reason everyone laughs up their cuff at you is because you have a long history of being a moron and always being wrong in your political views. If you don't believe me, just go back and read your Bush worshiping posts from the 2003 - 2004 time frame on LP and FU. The ones where you tell us how Bush will get on top of the war in a few months and how Bush will fix the deficits rights after the 2004 elections.
You swallowed the GOP talking points hook, line and sinker. Only ALS on LP was a bigger sucker, and a bigger fool, than you were.
Let me give you a word of advice: Just because the government tells you its true doesn't make it true. And just because a government controlled mouthpiece like Fox News says its true doesn't make it true.
Surprise! The government and the government controlled propaganda engines will shamelessly use simple people like yourself as tools - like your posts since at least 2000 prove.
Now, go paint your face up like a ridiculous clown, stand on a street corner, take a picture of yourself and post it on the internet - or just post a link to the last one put up.
Good thinking, but I wonder what his honest answer would've been.
I think his "total" answer would have been, "In case we have to flee this area".
In that vein, later I came across a governmental study that showed the county where I live, in case of "national emergency" would receive 100,000 inner city residents as displaced persons. Now mind you our total population is 50,000.
Racism, bigotry goes out the window, survival comes to the forefront. Now the need for guns surfaces.
Mind you at any one time, New York city has at a maximum of eleven days of food on hand for millions of people. Now stop the flow in an emergency and transplant them here?????????????
Racism, bigotry goes out the window, survival comes to the forefront. Now the need for guns surfaces.
A point lost on some.
Mind you at any one time, New York city has at a maximum of eleven days of food on hand for millions of people. Now stop the flow in an emergency and transplant them here?????????????
You should immediately prepare a million Welcome Wagon basket./s :)
I'm thinking we have some died in the wool Ds, and that might explain, in part, the Obama pimping.
I have no use for dyed in the wool R's or D's, and never did.
I can understand people here who want Obama to win because he's less likely to bring on nuclear armageddon. What I can't understand is the level of love and enthusiasm some people have for that PC empty suit.
We can't explain everything to you. There is only so much we can do with raw stupidity.
Instead of asking dumb questions, why don't you tell us again how Bush was going to the the deficit straightened out by 2005. I got a good laugh the last time you made an ass out of yourself that way.
While I won't discount the truth of your statement, I think there are also regular folks who just aren't intelligent enough to think beyond their self-identification, and are too insecure to consider anyone with a different viewpoint anything but a threat.
I'm certain that there are "plants" in public forums, but I'm also certain that on many forums the "trolls" are actually the owners, managers, and mods.
i agree with you. we also have to consider our different temperaments and that almost all of us have particular hot button issues, that when pressed, can send us into orbit. but! so many times i've seen folks fight tooth and nail on one thread topic then be on another and they're allied!