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Title: 4um poll. Are there any here who consider themselves a D? An R?
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Published: Apr 14, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-04-14 10:55:39 by Jethro Tull
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I'm thinking we have some died in the wool Ds, and that might explain, in part, the Obama pimping.


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#130. To: ... (#115)

That's how the Nazis controlled France, one or two informants per village and it was over for the resistance.

It's the people in hick Pennsylvania that are as hysterical about guns as they are about two queers in the tenderloin getting married.

At least in hick PA people can escape from the city. I wanted to post what polak at lf writes about the Poles and how they handled the informers, like the one who ratted out polak's grandmother who was killed by the Germans for harboring someone. He said the townspeople burned down the house with the informant and his whole family inside. Informant problem solved. I think this approach is highly effective.

angle  posted on  2008-04-14   16:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Jethro Tull (#129)

God, fifty years ago, and we're still there at our battle stations

I have friends that are buried there, some God forsaken place, in North Korea, MIA, written off by our elite government.

I did not know where the damned place was. But not to worry, I was soon exposed to Korea and China and Russia. Our country had plans to blow them all to hell and gone and I was invited to the first fight.

I felt so honored.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   16:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: angle, Jethro Tull, Peppa, christine (#130)

At least in hick PA people can escape from the city.

Short story.. Many years ago was in Annapolis on legal matters. Met and chatted with elderly gentleman that was head of a prestigious law firm there. During our conversation, he mentioned he owned a cabin near me back here in the hills and said he visited it once or twice a year, maybe for a little fishing.

I asked if that was his main purpose of ownership and his answer required no explanation. He said, "We keep it...just in case".

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   16:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: ... (#127)

Guns have value against criminals and rioters, or against other civilians if there is some sort of breakdown in society. So I'm not anti-gun and I see a value in them. I own a great many myself.

Jeez, call me paranoid, but throughout history rogue governments have confiscated private guns. England and Australia come to mind most recently. I speak for myself afa what I'll do should that happen here.

I agree with your above statement, and if given his druthers, Obama would make anyone who uses them against a criminal, a criminal.

That won't sell with the legions of unkempt, toothless, low IQ'ers out here.

Obama: the more you learn about him, the more ill you become.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-14   17:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: ... (#104)

"...in 2004, right before the 2004 election, right before the Party fooled your moronic ass into voting for Bush the SECOND time, you told us that Bush would get the deficit cleaned up right after the election."

Evidence please...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-14   17:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: ... (#103)

"Mud, why do you think everyone laughs up their cuff at you?"

I've never figgered that one out either...MUD

BTW...what's a cuff? And how do you laugh up it?

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-14   17:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jethro Tull (#133)

That won't sell with the legions of unkempt, toothless, low IQ'ers out here.

You talkin bout us rube cuzins agin?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   17:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Cynicom (#131)

One time I was on Saipan with my National Guard SF unit driving about in duce and a halves looking at infiltration and exfiltration points. We stopped at suicide cliffs and the last command post of the Japanese which is a ruptured rock and concrete entity adjacent to the Buddhist memorials at the base of this cliff where so many took their lives when we retook that island.

We were leaving and several bus loads of Japanese arrived and besieged us. Our Co let us dismount our vehicles to be props to the delight of this hoard of people who run in herds by nature and always own the finest in audio visual equipment.

It was an strange feeling if you knew of the full history of the fight and spilled blood that had been all around where we were just a few short decades before.

One interesting thing about it was that the Chimorros selling fruit and libations there had given us refreshments on the house, and when the Japanese showed up, the high prices were back in force.

I wonder if we are still well liked there as this was in the eighties, and the sour attitude toward us in Guam might have filtered up into the rest of the Marianna Islands by now.


Obama for president 2008

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-14   17:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: aristeides (#95)

Sounds like a nuanced position to me.

Agreed, but ..........

Nothing short of selling guns at the White House gift shop will assuage the gun nuts.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   17:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Mudboy Slim (#135)

"BTW...what's a cuff? And how do you laugh up it?"

Thats when you are trying to pick the cuff with a bend paper clip in your mouth while your the guy cuffed next to you is making you laugh at blond jokes while you are trying to work. Most people know and appreciates that in a situation where people are tense anyway and disposed to nervous laughter, never make them laugh on their cuffs.

Do we always have to explain such basic things to you, or do you just have a brain cramp this morning? ;-)


Obama for president 2008

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-14   17:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Cynicom (#136)

Yes Virgil, I'm talking about you.

Now pardon me while I fondle my new picture of Rexella, from the Jack Van Impe ministries.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-14   17:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Ferret Mike (#137)

One interesting thing about it was that the Chimorros selling fruit and libations there had given us refreshments on the house, and when the Japanese showed up, the high prices were back in force.

I wonder if we are still well liked there as this was in the eighties, and the sour attitude toward us in Guam might have filtered up into the rest of the Marianna Islands by now.

At opening shot of the Pacific war, Japan held the Northern Marianas Islands. They invaded Guam with 5000 soldiers with full equipment. On Guam the US had 128 Marines, one machine gun, rifles for all and a few .45 cal for the few.

Having "visited" Guam a few times during the Korean war, the Japanese were not well liked from war memories.

If you have time, use google and take a look at what is going on there now, preparations are being made for much larger affairs than Iraq. If you take the time, study it well with a large world map in view, you will see what is afoot.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   17:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: iconoclast (#138)

Nothing short of selling guns at the White House gift shop will assuage the gun nuts.

Ico;

DC is a gun-free zone.

For ten points, and control of the clock, guess the color and political affiliation of the legislators from the District who thought that was a swell idea?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-14   17:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Jethro Tull (#140) (Edited)

"Now pardon me while I fondle my new picture of Rexella, from the Jack Van Impe ministries."

Just looked at their website. Scary place.


Obama for president 2008

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-14   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: christine (#83)

that 2nd amendment position that obama holds is appalling, imo. i'm changing my mind about wanting him to have the op to fulfill his promises for change, on that one issue.

God forbid the economy gets as bad I think it's going to.

If you live in the suburbs of any city of any size, you may see the day when when local guns laws may not seem such a horrible idea.

At any rate, it's an SC issue.

Cool your jets.

I've learned that single issue voting can bite you in the ass.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   17:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Cynicom (#132)

I asked if that was his main purpose of ownership and his answer required no explanation. He said, "We keep it...just in case".

Good thinking, but I wonder what his honest answer would've been.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-14   17:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Jethro Tull (#142)

DC is a gun-free zone.

Until the "government" requested my services, I had never fired a gun, never owned one, still do not own one.

The "government" not only gave me a gun but said I should kill people with it.

Little hypocrisy there someplace.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   17:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Mudboy Slim (#135)

"Mud, why do you think everyone laughs up their cuff at you?"

I've never figgered that one out either...MUD

I didn't expect you to figure it out, and Hannity doesn't want you to know so he'll just fill your head up with shit - like he always does - if you ask him.

So let me help you here.

The reason everyone laughs up their cuff at you is because you have a long history of being a moron and always being wrong in your political views. If you don't believe me, just go back and read your Bush worshiping posts from the 2003 - 2004 time frame on LP and FU. The ones where you tell us how Bush will get on top of the war in a few months and how Bush will fix the deficits rights after the 2004 elections.

You swallowed the GOP talking points hook, line and sinker. Only ALS on LP was a bigger sucker, and a bigger fool, than you were.

Let me give you a word of advice: Just because the government tells you its true doesn't make it true. And just because a government controlled mouthpiece like Fox News says its true doesn't make it true.

Surprise! The government and the government controlled propaganda engines will shamelessly use simple people like yourself as tools - like your posts since at least 2000 prove.

Now, go paint your face up like a ridiculous clown, stand on a street corner, take a picture of yourself and post it on the internet - or just post a link to the last one put up.

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...  posted on  2008-04-14   17:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: ... (#147)

"...read your Bush worshiping posts from the 2003 - 2004 time frame on LP and FU."

Seriously, evidence please. Show me my "Bush-worshipping posts", why don't you?

Weanie.

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-14   17:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: ... (#147)

Tee hee heh...I'll bet you YOU think Keith Olbermann is all that and more, don't you, MORON?!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-14   17:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Ferret Mike (#139)

"Do we always have to explain such basic things to you...?"

Basic things to RATS ain't the same thing as basic things to REAL human beings...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-14   17:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Peppa, Jethro Tull (#145)

Good thinking, but I wonder what his honest answer would've been.

I think his "total" answer would have been, "In case we have to flee this area".

In that vein, later I came across a governmental study that showed the county where I live, in case of "national emergency" would receive 100,000 inner city residents as displaced persons. Now mind you our total population is 50,000.

Racism, bigotry goes out the window, survival comes to the forefront. Now the need for guns surfaces.

Mind you at any one time, New York city has at a maximum of eleven days of food on hand for millions of people. Now stop the flow in an emergency and transplant them here?????????????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   17:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: who knows what evil, Hayek Fan (#97)

I've never voted for a Democrat.

Ditto.

Sounds like you two are just busting your buttons over that very "serious and thoughtful" voting claim.

Sure makes voting easy doesn't it?

Just like blacks voting for Democrats.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   17:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: aristeides, Peppa (#98)

The nuanced tap-dancing doesn't show leadership.

Well, I suspect he doesn't care enough about the issue to expend political capital on it.

I'm starting to think this is Peppa's first rodeo.

All politicians play to their base in the primaries.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   17:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Cynicom (#151)

Racism, bigotry goes out the window, survival comes to the forefront. Now the need for guns surfaces.

A point lost on some.

Mind you at any one time, New York city has at a maximum of eleven days of food on hand for millions of people. Now stop the flow in an emergency and transplant them here?????????????

You should immediately prepare a million Welcome Wagon basket./s :)

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-14   17:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I'm thinking we have some died in the wool Ds, and that might explain, in part, the Obama pimping.

I have no use for dyed in the wool R's or D's, and never did.

I can understand people here who want Obama to win because he's less likely to bring on nuclear armageddon. What I can't understand is the level of love and enthusiasm some people have for that PC empty suit.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-04-14   17:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Peppa (#154)

You should immediately prepare a million Welcome Wagon basket./s :)

You meant to say...

" You should immediately prepare a million Welcome Wagon rounds./s??????????

I know cuzins here that have 20,000 rounds on hand.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   18:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#155)

I have no use for dyed in the wool R's or D's, and never did.

They are the sheep ready for shearing every two years.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   18:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Cynicom (#156)

You meant to say...

" You should immediately prepare a million Welcome Wagon rounds./s??????????

I know cuzins here that have 20,000 rounds on hand.

I'll bet you do.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-14   18:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: iconoclast (#153) (Edited)

All politicians play to their base in the primaries.

And all partisans swallow the bs.

Not my first 'rodeo', but if that's what brought us here, then we should seriously consider canning the bull.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-14   18:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Mudboy Slim (#148)

Seriously, evidence please. Show me my "Bush-worshipping posts", why don't you?

Show me a non-Bush worshiping post. One from at least six months ago. You can't do it and you - and everyone else here - knows it.

This is why you have to act like a raving moron and toss out your silly insults like a nine year old.

Now prove me right and call me a weenie again.

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...  posted on  2008-04-14   18:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Mudboy Slim (#135)

BTW...what's a cuff? And how do you laugh up it?

We can't explain everything to you. There is only so much we can do with raw stupidity.

Instead of asking dumb questions, why don't you tell us again how Bush was going to the the deficit straightened out by 2005. I got a good laugh the last time you made an ass out of yourself that way.

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...  posted on  2008-04-14   18:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Mudboy Slim (#150)

Basic things to RATS ain't the same thing as basic things to REAL human beings...MUD

If you pull your knuckles off the pavement people might mistake you for a human being.

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...  posted on  2008-04-14   18:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Mudboy Slim (#149)

He IS Keith Olbermann, yuk, yuk, yuk.

Peace with honor!

Hagee  posted on  2008-04-14   18:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: WhiteGuy (#119)

While I won't discount the truth of your statement, I think there are also regular folks who just aren't intelligent enough to think beyond their self-identification, and are too insecure to consider anyone with a different viewpoint anything but a threat.

I'm certain that there are "plants" in public forums, but I'm also certain that on many forums the "trolls" are actually the owners, managers, and mods.

i agree with you. we also have to consider our different temperaments and that almost all of us have particular hot button issues, that when pressed, can send us into orbit. but! so many times i've seen folks fight tooth and nail on one thread topic then be on another and they're allied!

christine  posted on  2008-04-14   18:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: ..., Mudboy Slim (#162)

If you pull your knuckles off the pavement people might mistake you for a human being.

Gentlemen, this is sounding quite a bit like some other forums. I read and respect both of you but both of you are better than this.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   18:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: iconoclast (#152)

Just like blacks voting for Democrats.

Oh, please...the Democrat Party platform is 'pro-choice', and I'm not...simple as that. Republicans aren't 'pro-life, either...no vote for them, as well.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-04-14   18:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Jethro Tull (#142)

For ten points, and control of the clock, guess the color and political affiliation of the legislators from the District who thought that was a swell idea?

Guess the color of the last child that was shot on her own front porch by a gang banger?

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   18:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Artisan (#109)

I voted constitution party in 04 (Peroutka/Baldwin).

So you were the other one... :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-04-14   18:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#155)

What I can't understand is the level of love and enthusiasm some people have for that PC empty suit.

What I can't understand is the thinking of people that refuse to acknowledge that Obama is head and shoulders above those suits full of shit that snickered and sneered at Ron Paul during the sham debates.

The Zionists despise him along with the La Raza gang but the beat of blind hatred here just goes on and on.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   18:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: who knows what evil (#166)

Oh, please...the Democrat Party platform is 'pro-choice', and I'm not...simple as that. Republicans aren't 'pro-life, either...no vote for them, as well.

RP made it clear that the abortion issue will never be settled at the Federal level and that the proper route to amelioration is at the state level.

But, obviously you slept through that chapter as you plan to do with the November election.

Looked at the numbers for children killed or left orphaned in Iraq lately?

Oops, silly me ... those are the "bad" children not our "good" children.

I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-14   18:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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