Title: 4um poll. Are there any here who consider themselves a D? An R? Source:
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I'm thinking we have some died in the wool Ds, and that might explain, in part, the Obama pimping.
Poster Comment:
I'm a reformed R, who now is a electoral non-participant.
I thought this way for a while, but I've returned to my belief that there is a political left and right.
Well many, if not most, Republicans have not had a problem with calling Democrats communists for many years ... it appears obvious to me that they aren't very close to calling Republicans the fascist plutocrats that they have morphed into.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
I'd be awfully concerned if he only had nice things to say about me.
That would be a definite cause for concern. ;-)
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Most of that 2% haven't a clue as to what is really occurring. They are just stolid, materialistic, and afraid of losing their toy collection and the false respect that money brings.
Only about the upper one tenth of 1 percent, or less, really have any clear idea of the game being played. If the Globalist/Bankster plans come to fruition most of that 2% will be "liquidated" as a threat to "their betters". Some might be allowed to live as overseers and such but the true elite want no threat, real or perceived, to their megalomaniacal intentions.
That updated zoot suit might make you a Pachuco, but not a ' NDP Lieberal Canuckistani PIMP.' ;-)
:)
Werd.
I know who I am.
I'm muthafukkin' wud-id-IZ!
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
If we selected 1000 citizens at random and gave them jobs randomly as president, vice president, congressman, senator, cabinet member, etc. then we would do much much better than we are doing now with powerful monied interests dominating us.
Amen.
I'm ready to draw straws...we'd be lots better off.
For me it was about '86 with the Tax increases and roll back of the Reagan Tax cuts
you were just a little bit ahead of me.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Well many, if not most, Republicans have not had a problem with calling Democrats communists for many years ... it appears obvious to me that they aren't very close to calling Republicans the fascist plutocrats that they have morphed into.
I agree with both of your points. Many Ds are socialists, and many Rs are fascists. Those that are neither are uninformed clods, useless eaters if you will.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
"...i'm still thinking that it could very well be lieberman."
No friggin' way BigJohn picks BigJoe...McCain will attempt to appease--and enthuse--the right wing of the GOP with his pick...MUD
BTW...my preference would be Haley Barbour.
I think Mike Tyson would be more of a soul match for McInsane - or Jeffrey Dahmer or "The Joker".
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
You support folks who support Big Guv'ment, imho...MUD
I support folks who are honest, reasonable and sensible.
I don't support gangsters.
Hey wait a minute... I am a gangster!
Just kidding.
But thanks for your 'humble' opinion anyway.
;)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
mcCain's choice should be interesting. i'm still thinking that it could very well be lieberman. that could very well be the plan of the PTB.
I think the party will play a stronger role in that selection than is typical in most conventions.
And, if they don't, or if a choice such as Sanford of S.C., or Crist of FL. is not made (someone outside the beltway) then they've completely lost their way.
Rice would add nothing to the ticket, IMO, regardless of who gets the D presidential nomination.
I remain convinced that an Obama-Webb ticket would be a huge winner.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#74. To: ..., Original Intent, Peppa, Cynicom, lodwick, Dakmar, christine, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Chertoff, all (#33)(Edited)
Here's my bitch. I think our foreign policy is many pay grades above the office of the presidency. One (s)elected man/woman isn't going to defund the MIC while it's in full earning potential. We're talking about trillions and trillions of dollars in profit and countless corporations and jobs depend on war as their Mothers milk. That richest 2% of people and governments you speak of will *never* tolerate a penny less in profit, and this reality was the sole reason I never gave RP a snowballs chance in hell despite having all the issues right.
OTOH, on the domestic front, the political left irks me b/c the social programs they love so much costs me money. I'm like a lot of other folks, I simply can't afford to give even more to a central government for redistribution. I also want the political left to get their laws off my guns. Obama is capable of further damage to my bottom line, and hes despicable on the 2nd amendment. How a man who proposes that self defense in ones home is illegal, can be accepted by so many, sucks.
So, to sum up my political feeling, McCain is correct; we'll be in Iraq for the next 100 years. Neither Obama nor Clinton will have the power or authority to change that, should they be (s)elected. The points that matter to me most make Obama the worst choice between the three.
Now I remember this was reccommended to me before.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
"My fear is that we will have four more years of Bush in the form of McCain. I will cast my vote wherever I think it will be most effective in stopping this."
"Going by the record of the past 7.5 years, I would prefer to take a chance with either Democratic candidate than to continue on our present course - which is what McCain has promised us. Given what McCain has promised, voting for McCain ratifies the Bush policies and McCain would come to power with what he believes is a genuine mandate to continue them. All in all, a very dangerous situation."
LOL...so, EMPOWER the RATS!! Bwahahahahahaha...
"I also think the plutocratic 2% who control small town America know the jig is up. We're in for a crash. They'll be front page pictures of bread lines and of the helicopter on the roof of the Baghdad embassy soon. McCain is old and sick and he'll be gone soon, so he can absorb the blame and then die. Fox News and the rest of the goob foolers have already assured the people in Wichita and hick Pennsylvania that McCain isn't a real conservative and he isn't one of them, so the failure can be easily disowned when it comes. The veep choice is the interesting one - he's the one that will be chosen to protect he plutocracy."
Tee hee hee...oh, you were serious? LOL...this place could get interesting...MUD
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation ~ Herbert Spencer
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
OTOH, on the domestic front, the political left irks me b/c the social programs they love so much costs me money. I'm like a lot of other folks, I simply can't afford to give even more to a central government for redistribution. I also want the political left to get their laws off my guns. Obama is capable of further damage to my bottom line, and hes despicable on the 2nd amendment. How a man who proposes that self defense in ones home is illegal, can be accepted by so many, sucks.
So, to sum up my political feeling, McCain is correct; we'll be in Iraq for the next 100 years. Neither Obama nor Clinton will have the power or authority to change that, should they be (s)elected. The points that matter to me most make Obama the worst of choice between the three.
very well said. that 2nd amendment position that obama holds is appalling, imo. i'm changing my mind about wanting him to have the op to fulfill his promises for change, on that one issue. no matter what, we cannot as a populace be disarmed. that is still the only thing that the tyrants fear.
#88. To: christine, Peppa, farmfriend, Cynicom, robin, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Kamala, HOUNDDAWG, James Deffenbach, Percy Dovetonsils, Pinguinite, ratcat, Palo Verde, aristeides, all (#83)
...no matter what, we cannot as a populace be disarmed. that is still the only thing that the tyrants fear.
True, but what they fear even more is an alerted armed populace. We need both, and we need to keep cool heads and keep pushing - alerting and waking people up to the true, and real, danger they are in.
Too many people do not want to look e.g., I have a good friend, who owned a very successful machine tool business, who will not look at or believe how many innocent people have been murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan - because it disagrees with the world view implanted by the lamestream media. He thinks McInsane is a good choice because he will continue the "Waronterra" as he has accepted the false rationale sold for it. He is not a stupid man, but he is "afraid to look" at the reality because it is too awful for him to confront.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
"I think Mike Tyson would be more of a soul match for McInsane..."
Wouldn't it be kewel if BigJohn got a face tattoo, too?
I'm thinking a "Darth Maul" tatoo would be appropriate.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I would say irrational not strictly insane - but it is not survival behavior.
Insane, is like a Booosh, seeing a reality that is not there.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken