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Title: SHOCK POLL: CLINTON TAKES 20-POINT LEAD IN PA...
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American Research Group
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Published: Apr 14, 2008
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2008-04-14 12:50:08 by Horse
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Comments: 272
April 14, 2008 - Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Preference Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 48% to 44% among men (45% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 64% to 31%. Clinton leads 64% to 29% among white voters (82% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 79% to 18% among African American voters (14% of likely Democratic primary voters). Clinton leads 52% to 43% among voters age 18 to 49 (50% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 62% to 31% among voters age 50 and older. 10% of all likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 24% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama's advertising is causing them to support Clinton. For details, click on the R or D for each state in the column on the left under 2008 Presidential Polls.
Poster Comment: The more people see of Obama the less they like. Has everyone at 4um heard that: Obama voted to make it illegal for homeowners to use a gun to protect themselves against home invasions? Obama voted twice to make it legal to kill babies born alive due to a mistake in a partial birth abortion. He made it lawful in Illinois to incinerate babies who were born after a partial birth abortion's failure. There are other votes and statements out there. He was gaining in Pennsylvania until he opened his mouth. 12 days ago I posted an article showing Obama'a big momentum in Pennsylvania. At that time I was hoping he could finally do Hillary in, but now I am not so sure.
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#137. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
So my calling you a Hillaroid is not entirely without merit? Of course it is, but that's the trap the pigfucking elite have set for us. I wish we could get back to discussing the pros and cons of individual issues and ideas rather than spouting attack prose at idealogical dissenters.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Shock effect is one literary tool used by writers. I'm glad it went over as intended. Um.... my opinion has nothing to do with your rights. Very true Cyni. You can join Peppa in rehearsing your posts so they make some kind of sense. Obama has said he would withdraw US troops from Iraq. He might not do any, he might not do all, but Cain definitely won't and Hillary is less likely to than Obama. Ergo, based on this information, the overall chance of reduced military presence in Iraq is best with Obama. But again, if they are all the same, why would you care which of the 3 gets the presidency?
I don't know..... maybe.... stop killing them? I know that sounds silly probably but I'll see about coming up with something a bit more sophisticated.
You may be right, chrissy. Do you think maybe McCain would treat them more kindly than Obama would? Would you be willing to bet money on that? I wouldn't.
Quite possibly. Anyone comparing his claim that he'd have troops out of Iraq in 1 year compared to McCain's 100 year claim would reach that conclusion. Granted, all are claims these days. It means putting and end to actual killing is more important that some law written on paper, laws that judges rarely obey BTW, that says you can have a gun. That as opposed to, "We need to vote for a president that will let me have a gun even though he will continue to murder innocent men, women and children abroad". Maybe being in Ecuador has taught me the difference between reality and what laws say. Reality carries a lot more weight in these parts. True in the USA too, in case no one's noticed.
Ha!! What Constitutional right? The right to bear arms? YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!! What are you? Stupid?? It's time you put them away. That goes for everyone.
I get called names all the time, it quit bothering me when I was 22 or so. This thread reminded me of one several weeks ago where someone tore into me based on misrepresenting my remarks, simple and straightforward as they were... I can't believe all the childish propaganda I'm seeing here today. And for the last couple months, really. Like I ask everyone else, why worry about the opinions of obvious morons?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Just to clarify, when I say "morons" I mean FOH specifically.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Well, JT, that was certainly a very quick contest. And you lose. So YOU can kiss my ass. And if you don't want to do that, then I think this is the part where I get to say two words. FUCK YOU! Uh-huh... I guess that would include the Constitution. Nothing but BS. Now then, you were saying something about a BS Constitutional Right you think you have?
Did you learn that in the wacky patriot group you were once a member of?
On this thread, FOH has had nothing to say. Nothing to argue, at least.
I learned it here in Ecuador. Don't you have a 1040 to file tonight, or have you already put in for an extension?
No, actually I won. All that nonsense got you run out of the country while I'm literally in the lap of luxury. So, my friend, spray that tent with an extra dose of mosquito repellent, say a prayer, and hit the hay (literally).
I filed long ago. Hell, Herr Bush is even giving me a stimulus. What a country :)
I can assure you I walked. ...supporting your own destroyer while complaining about him bitterly. You are truly ignorant about Ecuador. May your chains lay lightly JT....
A stimulus. Then your tax rate is less than zero this year, right? Good job.
Thanks for the warning, Jacob Marley. I'll remember it the next time I need a good laugh.
On top of being an ignoramus with a big freakin mouth whilst setting in Ecuador of all places, you're a class A1 monkey f*_cker. The very fact that you put stock in ONE FREAKING WORD that any of the selections have to say puts YOU in the category of blind willful stupidity OR late term blooming Kumbayah gun grabber. Either way, you're shooting your mouth off from Eduador while I'm beating the streets in the united States of America. What's left you turncoat acid-dropping light foot... Oh, Dakmar. Go take a flying f*_ck at a rolling donut.
This too will pass. Bush couldn't get amnesty past congress and neither will the next Pres. Polls say the war is not the issue, but in the end it will be.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
I'm close to signing off this thread, but... Maybe you're right, FOH. Maybe in spite of all his rhetoric, McCain really *will* bring the troops home. We can hope. Actually, make that "you" can hope. Or if you really think all are as bad as McCain advertises, then again, what's the big deal about my hoping, of the three, Obama wins?
Let me make this clear. FUCK McNuts. FUCK Hitlery. FUCK Barry Obama. And FUCK ALL YOU KNEE PAD WEARING ESTABLISHMENT SUCKERS!!!
Bush certainly did. Why can't Obama?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Your frustration could be put to rest with the simple application of the bozo privilege. Try it, you'll like it.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
We can hope. Actually, make that "you" can hope. Or if you really think all are as bad as McCain advertises, then again, what's the big deal about my hoping, of the three, Obama wins? All three of them are bad. Don't vote for any of them.
I'm not as frustrated as I might seem. Though I'm certainly in a different form this evening ain't I? Maybe my Ecuadorian wife is finally rubbing off on me. She is a more determined fighter than I am.
As I've mentioned, the best thing to do is vote for Ron Paul or Bob Barr, as a write in, if need be. I don't recommend anyone vote for Obama.
i was just about to ask, who are you and what have you done with Neil? ;)
hmmmm...that's certainly not the impression i and others got from your earlier posts.
To Recap: Only OWM tool obama, who wants to expand the Middle East Union war, can save the innocents that are dying from the war that none of us want to see last one day longer. Some of us have even called for the troops to fight their way out, North through eastern Turkey to the sea where possibly the Russians would pick them up and have pity on them. But some software designers must have missed that. For whatever reason, if you don't support Barry Obama, you support McDouchebag the King of the Americas! Better yet, if you believe that giving your guns over to the Establishment tool (McHitlerobama) in some insane belief that benevelobama will stop the NWO wars upon the sacrifice of your weapons, well then...you're a FREAKING SAINT. How quickly some have fallen for Marxist World Utopian ideologies. While safely tucked away in some other nation...
Makes perfect sense to me. You wouldn`t vote for him, but if you only had a choice of Clinton, McCain or Obama, you`d pick Obama. I agree. He appears to be the lesser of the 3 evils. For whatever that`s worth.
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t
LOLOL!! Thanks, chrissy. That's was a good laugh!
Yes, as it turned out, it seems a lot of people either got some strange impressions, or from where I'm sitting, gave some strange one's themselves. Of the 3, I hope Obama wins. That's because it will be one of the three, and McCain is a militant war monger who will kill innocent people as Bush is doing. But I would not vote for Obama. Our votes are too insignificant to matter between the three. (I know you would say not significant at all). The best thing to do is vote for Ron Paul or possibly Bob Barr. Neither will win, but as little good as that will do, it's far more good than could be done by casting a few more votes to the millions Obama will be getting and then if he wins, hoping he'll really end the warring.
Yes, "for whatever it's worth" is probably a fitting signatory.
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t At this point, I think I could name a few.
"these few who challenge me don't care if Iraqis enjoy that right." That is your opinion, which has nothing to do with our rights. Um.... my opinion has nothing to do with your rights. Very true Cyni. You can join Peppa in rehearsing your posts so they make some kind of sense. Ping... Let me disabuse you of two things, lest you retain any semblance of a false premise. Your "shock" value on me was totally wasted, whether it was intended or not. As to an example of its value, let me explain it in simple terms. Attending Church and having a minister use such language has ZERO value, the same as yours, as I and others had the false characterization that you were one that refrained from gutter language. Personally, now that I know you are one that resorts to such vulgarity, I will merely place you in league with a few others on the 4um. In that vein anything you have to say in the future will be viewed as coming from a vulgarian. As for the statement concerning gun rights, there is no way you can paper over that statement. You have diminished yourself in the eyes of many, if that is what you care to leave us with, so be it. Rehearse??? I did tell Peppa you were reading. Most everyone knows that. Again, that brings zero credit to your now empty ledger.
LOLOL Sorry, I just re-read the 1st half of the thread again. LOLOL!!
Well, I appreciate your criticisms, Cyni. Thank you for taking the time to share.
Thank you. I think.
At this point, I think I could name a few. lol
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#138. To: Cynicom (#117)
True, I was shocked at your use of language.
"these few who challenge me don't care if Iraqis enjoy that right."
That is your opinion, which has nothing to do with our rights.
Your argument is with voters that have voted in huge numbers for three people that have not said they will stop the war in Iraq. Supporting any one of the three is support for more war, more blood and dying, the very thing you abhor.
#139. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
And what exactly would you have us do about the dying Iraqis?
#140. To: christine (#119)
a man (Obama) who has no respect for the rights and lives of Americans (he wants to take away our right to self defense) cannot have regard for the lives of iraqis, afganis, pakistanis, iranians, or any other country's peoples.
#141. To: angle (#122)
#1. ) Obama appears is not the same as Obama is
#2. ) he'd be the moral candidate of choice according to whom?
#3. ) the candidate most likely to draw down the empire ...whatever his stance is on the 2A... means exactly what?
#142. To: Jethro Tull (#124)
The Os laughingly tried to put us in a position of accepting the loss of a Constitutional right as a trade off for world peace.
Pass the magic mushrooms....
#143. To: Pinguinite (#140)
#144. To: Pinguinite, FOH (#140)
#145. To: Jethro Tull (#131)
The answer is ZERO,
as all that stuff is dopey "patriot" BS (as you found out).
#146. To: Pinguinite (#142)
Ha!! What Constitutional right? The right to bear arms? YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!! What are you? Stupid??
#147. To: Dakmar (#144)
Just to clarify, when I say "morons" I mean FOH specifically.
#148. To: Jethro Tull (#146)
Did you learn that in the wacky patriot group you were once a member of?
#149. To: Pinguinite (#145)
Well, JT, that was certainly a very quick contest. And you lose.
#150. To: Pinguinite (#148)
#151. To: Jethro Tull (#149)
All that nonsense got you run out of the country.
while I'm literally in the lap of luxury.
So, my friend, spray that tent with an extra dose of mosquito repellent, say a prayer, and hit the hay (literally).
#152. To: Jethro Tull (#150)
I filed long ago. Hell, Herr Bush is even giving me a stimulus. What a country :)
#153. To: Pinguinite (#151)
May your chains lay lightly JT....
#154. To: Pinguinite, Dakmar (#144)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#155. To: angle (#122)
#156. To: angle (#34)
You misunderestimate (lol) the damage BO did to himself by his weekend gaffe. Essentially if you're anti-immigration, you're bitter.
#157. To: FOH (#154)
The very fact that you put stock in ONE FREAKING WORD that any of the selections have to say puts YOU in the category of blind willful stupidity OR late term blooming Kumbayah gun grabber.
#158. To: Pinguinite (#157)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#159. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
#2, he wouldn't be able to alter foreign policy if he did, especially in the Middle East.
#160. To: Pinguinite (#157)
#161. To: Pinguinite, FOH (#157)
Maybe you're right, FOH. Maybe in spite of all his rhetoric, McCain really *will* bring the troops home.
#162. To: iconoclast (#160)
Your frustration could be put to rest with the simple application of the bozo privilege.
#163. To: TwentyTwelve (#161)
Don't vote for any of them.
#164. To: Pinguinite (#162)
Though I'm certainly in a different form this evening ain't I?
#165. To: Pinguinite (#163)
I don't recommend anyone vote for Obama.
#166. To: christine (#165)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#167. To: Pinguinite, all (#44)
Of the 3, I prefer Obama take it.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#168. To: All (#167)
you`d pick Obama.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#169. To: christine (#164)
#170. To: christine (#165)
hmmmm...that's certainly not the impression i and others got from your earlier posts.
#171. To: wudidiz (#167)
For whatever that`s worth.
#172. To: wudidiz (#168)
#173. To: Pinguinite, Peppa, Christine, Jethro Tull, Angle (#138)
Shock effect is one literary tool used by writers. I'm glad it went over as intended.
#174. To: Pinguinite (#170)
Yes, as it turned out, it seems a lot of people either got some strange impressions
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#175. To: Cynicom (#173)
#176. To: Pinguinite (#171)
"for whatever it's worth" is probably a fitting signatory.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#177. To: Pinguinite (#172)
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
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