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Title: SHOCK POLL: CLINTON TAKES 20-POINT LEAD IN PA...
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American Research Group
URL Source: http://americanresearchgroup.com/
Published: Apr 14, 2008
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2008-04-14 12:50:08 by Horse
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April 14, 2008 - Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Preference Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 48% to 44% among men (45% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 64% to 31%. Clinton leads 64% to 29% among white voters (82% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 79% to 18% among African American voters (14% of likely Democratic primary voters). Clinton leads 52% to 43% among voters age 18 to 49 (50% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 62% to 31% among voters age 50 and older. 10% of all likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 24% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama's advertising is causing them to support Clinton. For details, click on the R or D for each state in the column on the left under 2008 Presidential Polls.
Poster Comment: The more people see of Obama the less they like. Has everyone at 4um heard that: Obama voted to make it illegal for homeowners to use a gun to protect themselves against home invasions? Obama voted twice to make it legal to kill babies born alive due to a mistake in a partial birth abortion. He made it lawful in Illinois to incinerate babies who were born after a partial birth abortion's failure. There are other votes and statements out there. He was gaining in Pennsylvania until he opened his mouth. 12 days ago I posted an article showing Obama'a big momentum in Pennsylvania. At that time I was hoping he could finally do Hillary in, but now I am not so sure.
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#147. To: Dakmar (#144)
On this thread, FOH has had nothing to say. Nothing to argue, at least.
I learned it here in Ecuador. Don't you have a 1040 to file tonight, or have you already put in for an extension?
No, actually I won. All that nonsense got you run out of the country while I'm literally in the lap of luxury. So, my friend, spray that tent with an extra dose of mosquito repellent, say a prayer, and hit the hay (literally).
I filed long ago. Hell, Herr Bush is even giving me a stimulus. What a country :)
I can assure you I walked. ...supporting your own destroyer while complaining about him bitterly. You are truly ignorant about Ecuador. May your chains lay lightly JT....
A stimulus. Then your tax rate is less than zero this year, right? Good job.
Thanks for the warning, Jacob Marley. I'll remember it the next time I need a good laugh.
On top of being an ignoramus with a big freakin mouth whilst setting in Ecuador of all places, you're a class A1 monkey f*_cker. The very fact that you put stock in ONE FREAKING WORD that any of the selections have to say puts YOU in the category of blind willful stupidity OR late term blooming Kumbayah gun grabber. Either way, you're shooting your mouth off from Eduador while I'm beating the streets in the united States of America. What's left you turncoat acid-dropping light foot... Oh, Dakmar. Go take a flying f*_ck at a rolling donut.
This too will pass. Bush couldn't get amnesty past congress and neither will the next Pres. Polls say the war is not the issue, but in the end it will be.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
I'm close to signing off this thread, but... Maybe you're right, FOH. Maybe in spite of all his rhetoric, McCain really *will* bring the troops home. We can hope. Actually, make that "you" can hope. Or if you really think all are as bad as McCain advertises, then again, what's the big deal about my hoping, of the three, Obama wins?
Let me make this clear. FUCK McNuts. FUCK Hitlery. FUCK Barry Obama. And FUCK ALL YOU KNEE PAD WEARING ESTABLISHMENT SUCKERS!!!
Bush certainly did. Why can't Obama?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Your frustration could be put to rest with the simple application of the bozo privilege. Try it, you'll like it.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
We can hope. Actually, make that "you" can hope. Or if you really think all are as bad as McCain advertises, then again, what's the big deal about my hoping, of the three, Obama wins? All three of them are bad. Don't vote for any of them.
I'm not as frustrated as I might seem. Though I'm certainly in a different form this evening ain't I? Maybe my Ecuadorian wife is finally rubbing off on me. She is a more determined fighter than I am.
As I've mentioned, the best thing to do is vote for Ron Paul or Bob Barr, as a write in, if need be. I don't recommend anyone vote for Obama.
i was just about to ask, who are you and what have you done with Neil? ;)
hmmmm...that's certainly not the impression i and others got from your earlier posts.
To Recap: Only OWM tool obama, who wants to expand the Middle East Union war, can save the innocents that are dying from the war that none of us want to see last one day longer. Some of us have even called for the troops to fight their way out, North through eastern Turkey to the sea where possibly the Russians would pick them up and have pity on them. But some software designers must have missed that. For whatever reason, if you don't support Barry Obama, you support McDouchebag the King of the Americas! Better yet, if you believe that giving your guns over to the Establishment tool (McHitlerobama) in some insane belief that benevelobama will stop the NWO wars upon the sacrifice of your weapons, well then...you're a FREAKING SAINT. How quickly some have fallen for Marxist World Utopian ideologies. While safely tucked away in some other nation...
Makes perfect sense to me. You wouldn`t vote for him, but if you only had a choice of Clinton, McCain or Obama, you`d pick Obama. I agree. He appears to be the lesser of the 3 evils. For whatever that`s worth.
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t
LOLOL!! Thanks, chrissy. That's was a good laugh!
Yes, as it turned out, it seems a lot of people either got some strange impressions, or from where I'm sitting, gave some strange one's themselves. Of the 3, I hope Obama wins. That's because it will be one of the three, and McCain is a militant war monger who will kill innocent people as Bush is doing. But I would not vote for Obama. Our votes are too insignificant to matter between the three. (I know you would say not significant at all). The best thing to do is vote for Ron Paul or possibly Bob Barr. Neither will win, but as little good as that will do, it's far more good than could be done by casting a few more votes to the millions Obama will be getting and then if he wins, hoping he'll really end the warring.
Yes, "for whatever it's worth" is probably a fitting signatory.
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t At this point, I think I could name a few.
"these few who challenge me don't care if Iraqis enjoy that right." That is your opinion, which has nothing to do with our rights. Um.... my opinion has nothing to do with your rights. Very true Cyni. You can join Peppa in rehearsing your posts so they make some kind of sense. Ping... Let me disabuse you of two things, lest you retain any semblance of a false premise. Your "shock" value on me was totally wasted, whether it was intended or not. As to an example of its value, let me explain it in simple terms. Attending Church and having a minister use such language has ZERO value, the same as yours, as I and others had the false characterization that you were one that refrained from gutter language. Personally, now that I know you are one that resorts to such vulgarity, I will merely place you in league with a few others on the 4um. In that vein anything you have to say in the future will be viewed as coming from a vulgarian. As for the statement concerning gun rights, there is no way you can paper over that statement. You have diminished yourself in the eyes of many, if that is what you care to leave us with, so be it. Rehearse??? I did tell Peppa you were reading. Most everyone knows that. Again, that brings zero credit to your now empty ledger.
LOLOL Sorry, I just re-read the 1st half of the thread again. LOLOL!!
Well, I appreciate your criticisms, Cyni. Thank you for taking the time to share.
Thank you. I think.
At this point, I think I could name a few. lol
Not welcome Neil. You have added to the harm that has been done to 4um. That I resent. Your intent is of no interest to me, the result is. Helping to destroy what belongs to others is nothing I would be satisfied or proud of. I gave no criticisms, stating observations of a character that you are content to leave us with is hardly something to be proud of. Vulgarity as a shock treatment, would result in a Pastor to which few people listen. Combine that with a condescending message, it leaves the church nearly empty. Your choice, Christines church.
At this point, I think I could name a few. I am voting for Yertule Turtle and his grocery cart retirement plan. Makes much more sense than anything else out there. At least ya can believe in it. And the financials add up, unlike the gov's plan.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Theory A: One World Monopolist will stop the killun Theory B: Assuming Theory A is true, the Marxist gun grabber taking away our firearms for the Establishment is what we should all hope for. A SHOCKING DAY INDEED!
Yertle Turtle for President! (The lesser of 4 evils) Don`t vote - it just encourages 'em. The votes are rigged anyway. For whatever it`s worth.
Yes, destroying what belongs to others, or more to the point, destroying others, is where all this bru-ha-ha started on this thread. I refer, of course, to the role of the United States in the destruction of Iraq. War is hell, Cyni, and no words, even vulgar words, can depict it's horrors accurately. You may even know of it first hand, and if you do, you have my respect. I am thankful that I have no personal experience with how horrific it is, and I hope I remain blissfully ignorant of true war. You can choose your church, but you can't choose your war. Not when it comes to you. The people in Iraq didn't choose what's been going on there for the last 18 years. Sure some/many here believe that Obama may well simply continue the war and he may. But if there's even a small chance that they are wrong and Obama would at least scale it back, then to me that makes him a preferred candidate, particularly over McCain. You can take issue with my "poetic" choice of words in discussing war if you so wish. Intelligent people already know that vulgarity is really an illusion, a series of innocent letters or sounds which combined, trigger a trained reaction that has been programmed into our minds. But I know of no other subject that is more deserving of such language than the subject of war itself.
You mean anyone believing his claims.
Yes, in hindsight, I did mangle that a bit. I tried to paraphrase your comment from memory, but fell short. I think you knew what I meant. Spin as you need too. But the question of whether it'll be Cain, Hill, or Obama is not hypothetical. It'll be one of those 3. Any of them will help you.
But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?'...So we'll go down a series of talking points. But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. [snip] -- B.Obama - audio from the April 6, 08 Obama fundraiser in S.F. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html He is the only candidate remaining who will. In this instance, if you believe otherwise, allow me to point out the obvious. 1) McCain is more likely to extend the madness, rather than improve it. 2) Hillary has spent a lifetime trying to show that she has the biggest testicles on the playground. If you think for a moment she won't try to out-Thatcher Thatcher and hang in on the phony baloney War on Terror you're delusional.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
That wasn't an insult.
But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?'...So we'll go down a series of talking points. But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. [snip] -- B.Obama - audio from the April 6, 08 Obama fundraiser in S.F. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html We need a Church of Obama pew.. like the old Biker Bar, but make it front and center.
But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?'...So we'll go down a series of talking points. But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. [snip] -- B.Obama - audio from the April 6, 08 Obama fundraiser in S.F. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestJust to clarify, when I say "morons" I mean FOH specifically.
#148. To: Jethro Tull (#146)
Did you learn that in the wacky patriot group you were once a member of?
#149. To: Pinguinite (#145)
Well, JT, that was certainly a very quick contest. And you lose.
#150. To: Pinguinite (#148)
#151. To: Jethro Tull (#149)
All that nonsense got you run out of the country.
while I'm literally in the lap of luxury.
So, my friend, spray that tent with an extra dose of mosquito repellent, say a prayer, and hit the hay (literally).
#152. To: Jethro Tull (#150)
I filed long ago. Hell, Herr Bush is even giving me a stimulus. What a country :)
#153. To: Pinguinite (#151)
May your chains lay lightly JT....
#154. To: Pinguinite, Dakmar (#144)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#155. To: angle (#122)
#156. To: angle (#34)
You misunderestimate (lol) the damage BO did to himself by his weekend gaffe. Essentially if you're anti-immigration, you're bitter.
#157. To: FOH (#154)
The very fact that you put stock in ONE FREAKING WORD that any of the selections have to say puts YOU in the category of blind willful stupidity OR late term blooming Kumbayah gun grabber.
#158. To: Pinguinite (#157)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#159. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
#2, he wouldn't be able to alter foreign policy if he did, especially in the Middle East.
#160. To: Pinguinite (#157)
#161. To: Pinguinite, FOH (#157)
Maybe you're right, FOH. Maybe in spite of all his rhetoric, McCain really *will* bring the troops home.
#162. To: iconoclast (#160)
Your frustration could be put to rest with the simple application of the bozo privilege.
#163. To: TwentyTwelve (#161)
Don't vote for any of them.
#164. To: Pinguinite (#162)
Though I'm certainly in a different form this evening ain't I?
#165. To: Pinguinite (#163)
I don't recommend anyone vote for Obama.
#166. To: christine (#165)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#167. To: Pinguinite, all (#44)
Of the 3, I prefer Obama take it.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#168. To: All (#167)
you`d pick Obama.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#169. To: christine (#164)
#170. To: christine (#165)
hmmmm...that's certainly not the impression i and others got from your earlier posts.
#171. To: wudidiz (#167)
For whatever that`s worth.
#172. To: wudidiz (#168)
#173. To: Pinguinite, Peppa, Christine, Jethro Tull, Angle (#138)
Shock effect is one literary tool used by writers. I'm glad it went over as intended.
#174. To: Pinguinite (#170)
Yes, as it turned out, it seems a lot of people either got some strange impressions
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#175. To: Cynicom (#173)
#176. To: Pinguinite (#171)
"for whatever it's worth" is probably a fitting signatory.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#177. To: Pinguinite (#172)
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#178. To: Pinguinite, christine, Jethro Tull, Peppa, angfle, FOH (#175)
#179. To: wudidiz (#177)
I mean, you`d prefer Obama. Who wouldn`t
#180. To: Cynicom (#178)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#181. To: tom007, Pinguinite, all (#179)
I am voting for Yertule Turtle and his grocery cart retirement plan.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#182. To: Cynicom (#178)
Helping to destroy what belongs to others is nothing I would be satisfied or proud of.
#183. To: Pinguinite (#141)
Anyone comparing his claim that he'd have troops out of Iraq in 1 year compared to McCain's 100 year claim would reach that conclusion.
#184. To: Pinguinite (#126)
You made the statement Pin. To safeguard the 2A at the expense of the innocents. As if that's what its intent is, as well as those that believe in its original intent. Your statement was nonsense. Sorry, it was. And has nothing to do with the war. But it does have to do with survival of other innocents. I can't make it any more clear. I'm sorry but your paragraph was anything but clear.
#185. To: angle, Pinguinite (#183)
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You mean anyone believing his claims.
#186. To: Pinguinite (#129)
I guess this place will be closing up shop. For someone who's not my enemy, you sure don't mind tossing insults my way.
#187. To: Cynicom (#178)
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Your choice, Christines church.
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