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Title: SHOCK POLL: CLINTON TAKES 20-POINT LEAD IN PA...
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American Research Group
URL Source: http://americanresearchgroup.com/
Published: Apr 14, 2008
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2008-04-14 12:50:08 by Horse
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Comments: 272
April 14, 2008 - Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Preference Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 48% to 44% among men (45% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 64% to 31%. Clinton leads 64% to 29% among white voters (82% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 79% to 18% among African American voters (14% of likely Democratic primary voters). Clinton leads 52% to 43% among voters age 18 to 49 (50% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 62% to 31% among voters age 50 and older. 10% of all likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 24% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama's advertising is causing them to support Clinton. For details, click on the R or D for each state in the column on the left under 2008 Presidential Polls.
Poster Comment: The more people see of Obama the less they like. Has everyone at 4um heard that: Obama voted to make it illegal for homeowners to use a gun to protect themselves against home invasions? Obama voted twice to make it legal to kill babies born alive due to a mistake in a partial birth abortion. He made it lawful in Illinois to incinerate babies who were born after a partial birth abortion's failure. There are other votes and statements out there. He was gaining in Pennsylvania until he opened his mouth. 12 days ago I posted an article showing Obama'a big momentum in Pennsylvania. At that time I was hoping he could finally do Hillary in, but now I am not so sure.
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
The SUSA poll a week ago had her with an 18-point lead. I have always assumed she would win Pennsylvania by about 20 points and, frankly, she has to do so.
I have always assumed she would win Pennsylvania by about 20 points and, frankly, she has to do so. She has to do more than that. She's got win by that much in pretty much all the remaining states. She won't. Winning by that much in PA would likely only prolong her trainwreck.
You misunderestimate (lol) the damage BO did to himself by his weekend gaffe. Essentially if you're anti-immigration, you're bitter. I don't think the educated anti-illegal immigrant folk will go for that. All Hillary has to do is very publically and soon sign up Gore for the VP spot and she's in. Run on the alternative energy investment bubble for the rest of her presidency.
Yep. Obama is cooked. Hillary has won all the big, essential states anyway.
Okay, we'll have to wait and see. Obama, however, can lose all the remaining states and still take the nomination. All that's required is he not lose that badly. The math is stacked heavily against Hillary at this point. Obama's had lots of attention but I think if it starts to look like Hillary has a chance again, her own hypocrisy and policies will be back in the light. Odds still strongly favor Obama, according to the people willing to put money on the election.
No it isn't. The super delegates are part of the equation and they will favor the most electable candidate, which right now sure the heck isn't Obama. Also Florida and Michigan lost their say by moving their primaries up and both of those states would have gone to Hillary. Hillary will get the nomination barring some major blunder on her part before the convention. The Obama followers can throw fits and riot, but that is the most likely outcome right now. Not like I really give a crap either way. But a lot of 4Um posters are starting to show they are more anti-Republican than they are pro-freedom and it makes me sick. Having their adopted poster boy go down to defeat would serve them right.
Of the 3, I prefer Obama take it. The USA is screwed no matter which of the 3 wins. Given that, it makes sense to prefer the one that is least likely to start WWIII and otherwise end the imperialism. I know its probable that Obama won't bring all the troops home, but Cain will increase imperialism and bombing. As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. Again, since the USA is gonna die anyway no matter which of the 3 it is, the least we can do is die alone and let the rest of world be. I won't vote for Obama as it's much more beneficial such as it is to vote for Ron Paul or Bob Barr, but that's my position and preference.
Ping... Unreal...I cannot believe you would even consider such a statement.
Unreal...I cannot believe you would even consider such a statement. Okay, well, lets try putting it in reverse. There, is that better?
LOLOL! Dude, put down the joint and get real. HOW did you manage to go from Ron Paul Constutitutionalist anti-Middle East Union / African Union wars to Obama Marxist gun-grabber AND then tie these two things (grabbing my guns - anti RKBA & killing people in the Middle East) together? LSD? Local buzz material? Killah Gonge?
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#28. To: Sam Houston (#1)
#34. To: Pinguinite (#28)
Winning by that much in PA would likely only prolong her trainwreck.
#35. To: angle, Pinguinite (#34)
You misunderestimate (lol) the damage BO did to himself by his weekend gaffe. Essentially if you're anti-immigration, you're bitter. I don't think the educated anti-illegal immigrant folk will go for that. All Hillary has to do is very publically and soon sign up Gore for the VP spot and she's in. Run on the alternative energy investment bubble for the rest of her presidency.
#36. To: Vitamin Z, angle (#35)
Yep. Obama is cooked. Hillary has won all the big, essential states anyway.
#41. To: Pinguinite (#36)
The math is stacked heavily against Hillary at this point.
#44. To: RickyJ (#41)
#73. To: Pinguinite (#44)
For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book.
#76. To: Cynicom (#73)
It's perfectly fine for innocent people to die so we can keep our 2nd Amendment rights.
#79. To: Pinguinite (#76)
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