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Title: Obama Remark ‘Elitist,’ McCain Says
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/ ... remark-elitist-mccain-says/?hp
Published: Apr 14, 2008
Author: Ariel Alexovich
Post Date: 2008-04-14 14:36:12 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 773
Comments: 56

Obama Remark ‘Elitist,’ McCain Says

April 14, 2008, 12:35 pm

By Ariel Alexovich

WASHINGTON — John McCain called Barack Obama’s recent comments that Pennsylvanians are “bitter” an “elitist” remark but stopped short of calling Mr. Obama himself elitist.

“I don’t know Senator Obama very well,” Senator McCain said, addressing a packed crowd of journalists at a newspaper editors’ conference on Monday. Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, spoke at length about how small town Americans in places like Pennsylvania are the backbone of America. Those folks don’t support the Second Amendment because of recent economic hardships, Mr. McCain said, they do it because that’s been part of their values system for generations.

“These are the people that produced a generation that made the world safe for democracy,” Mr. McCain said. “These are the people that have fundamental cultural, spiritual, and other values that in my view have very little to do with their economic condition.”

To suggest otherwise, Mr. McCain said, is “a fundamental contradiction to what I believe America is all about.”

Senator McCain also denied flip-flopping on the mortgage issue. He has been criticized for initially being against government aid to homeowners struggling under the weight of their hefty mortgages.

Now, Mr. McCain has said he supports limited bailouts because “Americans are hurting.”

But he warned against too much government intervention. “Massive bailouts puts debt on future generations,” he said.

The chummy question-and-answer portion of Monday’s event began with a mutual peace offering. The panel hosts gave guest speaker John McCain a coffee with cream and sugar, and several Dunkin’ donuts — with sprinkles.

“My favorite!” he said.

In return, he told the packed auditorium of journalists that he supports a shield law — which allows reporters to protect their sources — albeit narrowly. He doesn’t support the shield law if it infringes upon national security, specifically citing The New York Times’s decision to disclose a government wiretapping program “too close to crossing that line.” “It is, frankly, a license to do harm, perhaps serious harm,” Mr. McCain said in his opening remarks. “But it is also a license to do good; to disclose injustice and unlawfulness and inequities; and to encourage their swift correction.”

Mr. McCain didn’t give up the names of people he’s considering for vice president, only that he hopes to make a decision “sooner rather than later.” During the casual Q-and-A, he also joked that he’d fall into a “deep depression” if he loses the general election.

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#3. To: aristeides (#0)

McCain still has not released his taxes. It has been reported that John and Cindy own 8 homes, and through her, they live a lavish lifestyle, well beyond what most in the Senate live; certainly well beyond the way most Americans live.

So who is the elitist again?

robin  posted on  2008-04-14   16:31:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3) (Edited)

So who is the elitist again?

They're ALL elitists...that what we're trying to tell you.

angle  posted on  2008-04-14   16:35:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: angle, robin (#4)

They're ALL elitists...that what we're trying to tell you.

Amazing that some people still can't grasp that. It's like George Carlin says: It's a big elitist club, and you ain't in it...

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-04-14   17:23:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vitamin Z (#7)

Amazing that some people still can't grasp that. It's like George Carlin says: It's a big elitist club, and you ain't in it...

Doesn't really matter if they are elitists or not. What does matter are their voting records. That alone is enough to oppose all of them. Voting for the lesser of two evils still gives you evil. That's the game the real elite want you to keep on playing. I will never play that game again. Never.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-14   17:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: RickyJ (#9)

Voting for the lesser of two evils still gives you evil

So you wouldn't have voted for Kerensky against Lenin? You wouldn't have voted for German democrats (many of whom were socialists) against Hitler?

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-14   18:46:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides (#11)

Voting for evil gives you evil. The German democrats could have been just as bad or worse than Hitler. We will never know becasue they didn't win. If Obama wins someday people may look back and say McCain would have been the lesser of the two evils. It's easy to be an armchair quarterback after the game has already been played. I refuse to play their game. I will vote for the person who stands for what I believe in. If no such person is running or exists then I will vote for myself. Feeling good about who you vote for is something very few people can do. If more people said to heck with the media-picked candidates and voted for who they really liked then we would have true democracy. What we have now is really an illusion of democracy which is in reality a mainstream media controlled autocracy.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-14   19:18:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ (#12)

The German democrats could have been just as bad or worse than Hitler.

Only they weren't, for the nearly 15 years that they ruled Germany.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-14   19:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: aristeides (#13)

Only they weren't, for the nearly 15 years that they ruled Germany.

That is one mans opinion Ari. Having had friends from Eastern Germany for many years, they did not and would not mow agree with you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-14   19:22:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#14)

That is one mans opinion Ari. Having had friends from Eastern Germany for many years, they did not and would not mow agree with you.

Ari's little Oxford profs prolly forgot to teach him about Weimar's decadence and corruption. That prolly explains why ari appears to be a good little Marxist NWO lapdog.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-04-14   20:08:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vitamin Z (#19)

Ari's little Oxford profs

I didn't know Ari was a college kid. Oh well, that explains his naivete.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-14   20:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: RickyJ (#20)

I didn't know Ari was a college kid. Oh well, that explains his naivete.

I don't think Ari is currently a student, but he often boasts about his Ivy league education and claims to have also attended Oxford and lectured at Yale.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-04-14   20:17:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Vitamin Z (#21)

I don't think Ari is currently a student, but he often boasts about his Ivy league education and claims to have also attended Oxford and lectured at Yale.

I occasionally mention my degrees and my past work experience when I think they are relevant to the discussion, just as I sometimes mention my military experience.

Some people think education disqualifies a person from discussions. That's a perfect example of the anti-elitism canard now being used against Obama, as it's been used in the past against people like Kerry. By the likes of Limbaugh, in the process of defending true Yale-educated blue bloods like Bush fils. And fools are taken in by the canard.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-16   10:46:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#50. To: aristeides (#48)

You would get more respect here if you were a hillbilly or at least have one on your family tree like I do. Maybe you have some half-starved or imprisoned Irishmen in your family tree you could mention from time to time?

robin  posted on  2008-04-16 11:00:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: aristeides (#48)

Some people think education disqualifies a person from discussions.

I go back to rural Texas periodically and I see a dynamic where people are actually proud to be stupid and uninformed. They think they see a simple truth that people with more understanding of the problem miss.

I've found the best way to handle these types is to preface every remark with "Ah's purty dumb but ......". I've found that they'll then listen to just about anything you say.

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#52. To: aristeides (#48)

Some people think education disqualifies a person from discussions.

Who are these people? Really, I don't know anyone that thinks that education disqualifies someone from anything. Obama is a perfect example of a racist. Calling him an elitist just sugar coats what he really is.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-16 11:31:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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