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Title: "More MUD!!"
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URL Source: http://www.cagle.com/working/080403/olle.jpg
Published: Apr 15, 2008
Author: Mudboy Slim
Post Date: 2008-04-15 11:33:52 by Mudboy Slim
Keywords: None
Views: 11010
Comments: 796

Heh heh heh...MUD (1 image)

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#17. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)

Do people laugh at you because you are dumb or because you are an attention whore?

It's hard to tell from your thread.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-15   13:22:18 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Minerva (#17)

"...you are an attention whore?"

You ain't seen nuthin' yet...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-15   13:25:06 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mudboy Slim (#19)

Do you know a guy named TLBSHOW?

You seem a lot like him.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-15   13:26:18 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Minerva, TLBSHOW (#21)

Todd/TLBSHOW is my FRiend...MUD

BTW...for the record, I ain't nuthin' like Todd!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-15   13:30:03 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mudboy Slim (#22)

BTW...for the record, I ain't nuthin' like Todd!!

You're exactly like TLBSHOW. An attention whore who makes a laughing stock out of himself and then doesn't realize it. Where am I wrong?

Unfortunately fer Dubyuh--a man I truly like and respect ~ Mudboy Slim

TLBSHOW also loves and respects Bush. That makes you two the last in the country who haven't wised up.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-15   13:36:38 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Minerva (#25)

Whatever, bee-ahhtch...Dubyuh ain't the problem with this Country...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-15   13:39:04 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mudboy Slim (#26)

Doesn't take much to flush out the ape in you. That's ok, TLBSHOW is the same way.

LOL!

I going now. I just wanted to see you make an ass out of yourself.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-15   13:42:21 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Minerva (#28)

"I just wanted to see you make an ass out of yourself."

Am I fulfilling your fantasies yet, Minnie?

I shan't stop now...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   13:28:40 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Mudboy Slim (#70)

Does Bush and the Jeff Gannon thing excite you too? Is that why you voted for the guy twice? Do you think Matt Drudge is cute? And why did Ann Coulter never get married? How do you Republicans reproduce?

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   13:31:07 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Minerva (#73)

"How do you Republicans reproduce?"

I've got two young'uns so far...are you a parent?

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   13:33:21 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Mudboy Slim (#75)

I've got two young'uns so far...

Oscar Wilde had four kids and he was as queer as Limbaugh and Drudge put together.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   13:36:12 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Minerva (#79)

Still with the queer jokes?! Minnie, yer just hiding your inner lustings for my manlihood...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   13:37:40 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Mudboy Slim (#80)

Minnie, yer just hiding your inner lustings for my manlihood...MUD

If you are a fat goof with your face painted up like a fool, don't post your picture on the internet.

Your mother should have taught you this when you were young.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   13:41:17 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Minerva (#82)

"...don't post your picture on the internet"

Mudboy Slim

I can't help it, my li'l cuddlebunny...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   13:45:01 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Mudboy Slim (#84) (Edited)

You're young enough to join the army. Why arn't you in Iraq if you support the war? You're not a cowardly freeper type are you? Some keyboard commando who sends other people's kids to fight.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   13:46:42 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Minerva (#85)

"You're young enough to join the army."

Technically, yeah, I'll be 45 in June...but I'll leave the fighting to the professionals. My dad was 30 years Navy and my brother has been in the Air Force for almost 18 years. And they both agree with me...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   13:53:28 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Mudboy Slim (#86)

Technically, yeah, I'll be 45 in June..

There is now a desperate need for troops. Kids are going into their third tour because cowardly keyboard commandos like yourself won't join the war effort and do their part.

If you support the war, why don't you go fight it for a while and let some poor kid on his third tour come home?

Your not a sniveling, cowardly Freeper type are you? Some fool who beats his chest for the war and then sits home and pounds the keyboard and drinks beer.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   14:23:41 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Minerva (#90)

"Stand!!"
(To be sung to Jewel's "Hands")

If I could tell the World just one thing...
It would be...that "We'll be OKAY!!"
Don't get discouraged 'cuz Courage is Vital...
And priceless in times like these...WE MUST EXACT JUSTICE!!

We shan't stop with bin Laden's head!!
We must gather ourselves around our Faith...
Fer Right's what the Leftists most fear!!

My hands are gnarled and rough...
But they're not yers...nor what they've sown.
Yes, we're...the Right!! This is OUR home...
And we shall not be broken!!

Zealotry...felled the Silver Twins...
We must remove Left's cancer!!

Yes...heartache came to visit me...
But I KNEW WHAT I WUZ DOIN' AFTER!!!
We'll fight...we know we're Right!!
For someone must stand up 'gainst Left's blight.
'Cuz where there's a man who has no voice...
There OURS shall go singin'!!

My hands are gnarled and rough...
But they're not yers...nor what I've grown!!
It's Justice Time...you've bombed my home!!
Now, you've...gone provoked US!!!!

In the End, only the Truth matters...
In the End, only Justice matters!!
I will get down on my knees, and I will pray...
You should get down on yer knees...yes, you should pray!!
Allah? The planes went down...four buildings...soul-lessly razed!!

My hands are gnarled and rough...
But they're not yers...nor what I've smoked.
Now you've riled us...attacked our home!!
Folks, we shall not be broken!!
Right shall not be broken!!!

We are God's eyes...God's hands...God's mind.
We are God's eyes...God's hands...Allah's heart.
We are God's eyes...God's hands...God's eyes...
We are God's hands... RIGHT...MAKE YER STAND!!!

Mudboy Slim (9/18/01)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   14:39:47 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Mudboy Slim (#91) (Edited)

Cowardly, hypocritical little boys like yourself shouldn't talk about war and courage. It just makes you look silly.

Call us if you ever work up the guts to stand up and fight for what you claim to believe in. Until then, spare us your silly spew.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   15:09:07 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Minerva (#92)

I have no problem looking silly, but it's quite disingenuous for you to insist that only active military folks can afford to be pro-liberation of Iraq...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   15:15:30 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Mudboy Slim (#93)

We are not liberating Iraq, we are illegally and immorally occupying it to promote ideological agendas and because of a coveting of land for military bases and for oil.

Removing Saddam from power was a job for the Iraqi people. They could of done it far better without the disintegration of political, social, ethnic and religious aspects keeping that country together then we did.

We were more like a child with a dull chainsaw attempting delicate brain surgery them advocates of freedom and justice trying to best promote and uphold those principles.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-16   15:20:59 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Ferret Mike (#95)

"They could of done it far better without the disintegration of political, social, ethnic and religious aspects keeping that country together then we did."

I reject that hypothesis out of hand, Mike...no way the Shiites could overthrown Saddam and his Sunni thugs without bringing Iran into the war...directly, not indirectly like they are now.

Do you actually believe what you are alleging?

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   15:41:04 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mudboy Slim (#97)

Do you actually believe what you are alleging?

Do you? You are the one who is afraid to stand up for his beliefs.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   15:45:20 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Minerva (#104)

Sauropod and Mudboy Slim. Notice bufordP in the background (l)... looking 
like the tourist guy.

"Free Iraq!! Free Iraq!! Free Iraq!!"

Yep, darlin', I was there in DeeCee for the pre-Liberation of Iraq Rally!! We wuz on CSPAN...we rocked!!

Where were you, sweetcheeks?

You love me, I can tell...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   15:49:47 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Mudboy Slim (#105) (Edited)

Yep, darlin', I was there in DeeCee for the pre-Liberation of Iraq Rally!!

You are a disgrace to all the patriotic Americans who had the guts to stand up and fight for their country.

You are spitting on the graves of our servicemen by claiming that your silly, cowardly dance on a street corner is on par with the sacrifice that the people fighting in Iraq, or in any other war, have made. It's called "Stolen Valor".

And you know this. That is why you keep trying to avoid the subject and make light of it.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   15:54:33 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Minerva (#106)

Heh heh heh...it's gutless peacniks like yourself who disgrace America's fallen heroes.

Good news is, your side just keeps on losing...nobody listens to you...NOBODY who matters, at least!!

Sweetcheeks, yer a sideshow, nothing more...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   16:00:47 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Mudboy Slim (#108)

Heh heh heh...it's gutless peacniks like yourself who disgrace America's fallen heroes.

Mud, why don't you show some guts and stand up for the cause you believe in? Some poor kid on his third tour could then come home - and maybe not get killed.

It's not enough for a small, cowardly little man like yourself to pretend to be a soldier - like you just did above. That just disgraces America's fallen heroes - but you know that or you would prove me wrong on this point.

So keep tap dancing Mud. Show us how small and cowardly Freepers really are.

Minerva  posted on  2008-04-16   16:17:26 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Minerva, ..., Red Jones, Robin, MUDDOG, Jethro Tull, Arator, Jim Robinson, Dave Dillegge, kristinn, staytrue (#112)

"American Lib'ral!!"
(To be sung, angrily, to the Guess Who's "American Woman")

Unnhhh!!!

American Lib'rals, stay away from me-ee!
Socialist Left, Big Brother...let me be-ee!
Don't come a'pimpin' the Federal Whore,
Don't want you to regulate no more!
I got more important things to do...
Than waste my time hatin' life with you!
"NOW Lib'ral," I said, "Stay away-ay!!
DemocRAT Jacka$$, listen what I say-ay-ay!!"

American Lib'rals, get away from me-ee!
Enviro-Whackos...Algore huggin' tree-ees...
Don't come a'bitchin' around my store...
Ain't gonna fund your Programs no more...
Public Ed can stupidify,
But Rush's Right don't believe their LIES!
"NOW WOMYN," I said, "Go away-ay!
Feminist NAZIS...listen what I say-ay-ay-ay!!"

American Lib'ral, said get away-ay!
Hill'ry Rodham, listen what I say-ay!
Don't come a'stealin' the bread from my chores...
Ain't gonna fund your "art" no more...
We don't need your welfare schemes...
We don't need your class enmity!
Left-Wing Press ignores Bill's lies...
The Right will just convict his spies!!
Slick Willie, time for you to flee-eee!!
American Sheeple...when will you see?!!

GO!! Gotta hound away, gotta pound away, don't take no more!
We're gonna nail ya, Lib'rals! We'll RE-IMPEACH ya, Clinton!
Bye-bye-eye, Bye-bye-eye, Bye-bye-eye, Bye-bye-eye!
You're no good, B.C.! We're not fooled by you!!
Gotta look Slick, Right, in the eye,
Tell'im what he's gotta do,
"Ya know ya gotta leave...ya know ya gotta go!"
Bill's in CHAINS by Christmas Eve, or how 'bout tomorrow?!
Slick, ya gotta leave-eve!!

Goodbye, President Clinton...Goodbye, you Socialist twits!!

Mudboy Slim (07/25/1999)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-16   23:54:55 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Mudboy Slim (#118) (Edited)

Pouting now?

...  posted on  2008-04-16   23:56:27 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: ... (#119)

Looks to me like the little man is singin' his arse off...LOL!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   0:00:10 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Mudboy Slim (#120)

Why don't you tell people that you are gay and the army won't take you? Then you will have an excuse for being a weenie.

Trace21231  posted on  2008-04-17   0:14:42 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Trace21231 (#121)

I remember you from LP...as I recall, you weren't such a prick then...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   0:21:05 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Mudboy Slim (#123)

I remember you from LP...as I recall, you weren't such a prick then...MUD

I loathed the Free Traitor Trace that you recall.

This is a parody of that poster IMO...

FOH  posted on  2008-04-17   0:50:42 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: FOH (#134)

Parody my ass ..... bitch.

Trace21231  posted on  2008-04-17   0:52:46 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Trace21231 (#135) (Edited)

The real Trace-traitor, albeit a total fukkwad, was WAAAAY smarter than you are.

No sale.

FOH  posted on  2008-04-17   0:54:18 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: FOH (#136)

He's the real Trace. I can vouch for that.

Fun and Happy Balls  posted on  2008-04-17   0:57:34 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Fun and Happy Balls, FOH, Trace (#138)

"BigJohn McCain!!"
(To be sung to Eric Clapton's "Running On Faith")

One...two...three...four...

Lately Right's been running on Faith...
Searchin' fer Justice and Truth.
But our World will be Right...
When BigJohn sings our tune.

Lately, I've been wond'rin' why I freep...
Shrinkin' government's that fer which I pray.
Protect the World from Left's slime...
Please McCain, join the fray!!

Right's always been...
Willin' to help thru taxes that we pay.
Seems like by now...
Right'd find a Prez who cares...fer Liberty!!

Then we'd go running on faith...
All of Right's dreams shall come true!!
All the world will be Right...
When BigJohn loathes Big Guv'ment, too!!

(Sweet guitar pickin' by the BigMan)

Right's always been...
One to fight fer that fer which we pray!!
Seems like by now...
We'd find a Prez who cares...fer Liberty!!

Won't believe Pubbies on faith...
All of Right's dreams shall come true!!
Lead the world 'cuz we're Right...
John McCain, you can join US, too!!
Yes, you can...
And Rush shall support you...
Then Sean shall support you...
And MUD shall support you...
All of Right's dreams shall come true...
The Right shall support you...
Truth shall see you thru...

Mudboy Slim (02/27/2008)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   1:03:13 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Mudboy Slim (#140)

Welcome to
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A 'New World Order' for Conservatives?

Posted by Bobby Eberle
March 27, 2008 at 6:16 am

>> Printer-Friendly Version

Last week, I focused on Sen. Obama's speech about his "former" pastor. I thought the speech was both fascinating and scary in how it revealed so much of what the senator actually believes. Who would have thought that in such a short time, there would be another speech that seems equally revealing and that has conservatives grumbling. Though not given all the advance billing of a "major address" like Sen. Obama's speech, the comments delivered by Sen. John McCain on Wednesday have conservatives such as myself up in arms. To Sen. McCain.... when you give a speech like that -- a speech John Kerry could have given -- are you purposely thumbing your nose at conservatives?

In a speech before the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles, California, Sen. McCain delivered a laundry list of all things non-conservative. Speaking of new world orders, North American Unions, and global permission to protect American interests is so far from our basic Republican platform that I don't even need to use the word conservative, it's not even Republican. Let's take a look at what the senator from Arizona -- the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE -- had to say.

On Rush Limbaugh's program, the conservative talk show host correctly honed in on one of the items that particularly went up my spine. Rush takes issues with the following McCain statement:

MCCAIN: Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want, whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed. We need to listen, we need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our Democratic allies. When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right. But we in return must be willing to be persuaded by them.

What McCain is saying is that American interests are now up for veto by the collective "world body" and we must always get permission before action is taken. Clearly we don't want our "democratic allies" to be mad at us. This is just another step in diminishing America's role as leader of the free world. As Rush states, "Liberals are going to love this speech. This is the problem. This is their stated approach. This is no different than what John Kerry was talking about doing, although his remarks were in the context of military involvement, but McCain included that here."

Rush addressed a few other areas of McCain's speech, but one part that particularly bothered me was this passage:

Relations with our southern neighbors must be governed by mutual respect, not by an imperial impulse or by anti-American demagoguery. The promise of North, Central, and South American life is too great for that. I believe the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South. Ours can be the first completely democratic hemisphere, where trade is free across all borders, where the rule of law and the power of free markets advance the security and prosperity of all.

Again, this sounds like something straight from the liberal manifesto. I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. When Lee Greenwood belts out those stirring words that make our hearts beat a little stronger, he doesn't sing, "I'm proud to be a North American." When I get up in the morning, I don't pray to God and thank him for the fact that our neighbors are Canada and Mexico. I don't long for the day when people will say, "Hey you are one of those Western Hemisphere folks, aren't you? Cool...." I'm proud to be an American! A citizen of the United States of America. I do not want alliances that take away American sovereignty or diminish our capacity to do what is in the best interest of America. Any presidential candidate who talks otherwise is sending up a huge red flag to conservatives across the country.

McCain goes on to call for the closing of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. That is simply crazy. Would we no longer house enemy combatants? Of course we would. We'd simply have another Gitmo under a different name. So, there is no reason to close what we already have. Suggesting so is simply catering to liberals both at home and abroad that America is somehow the bad guy who needs to clean up his act. Forget it!!!

The comments poured in yesterday, and it might be wise for the senator's presidential campaign to make a note that trying to fundraise among conservatives on the same day you give a "new world order" speech is not really a great idea.

I was going to send a contribution, but after today's speech I have changed my mind. I just won't vote in the next election. I feel this country is going to hell in a handbasket. I can't believe we will close Gitmo!
-- Liz O.

After the speech McCain gave today 3/26, about closing Gitmo and torture, and the global B.S. he will never get my vote, even if he RAN UNOPPOSED.
-- Bob L.

I honestly am not to the point that I can say for certain I will even vote for you, Senator McCain, let alone send a donation. I heard some of your speech today and really object to much of it.
-- Nancy M.

I am proud of America... a country that was forged in the fires of liberty, freedom, and leadership. When America faces adversity, we face that adversity head on, and we lead. We don't ask, "Excuse, kind European neighbor, are we really facing adversity, because, um, er, if not, we'll just go back across the Atlantic. Just wanted to check with you because maybe you thought that perhaps we might just sort of be right and that America should act. Of course we won't take any action that might make you upset."

America is strong, and we will continue to be so, as long as we have leaders who will promote and defend America and not sell us out to the "global village."

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McCain’s Incoherent New World Order


AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | March 28, 2008


McCain’s strange rhetoric about “North, Central, and South American life” reflects a view that nation-states are disappearing and being replaced by regional alliances and institutions.

In his March 26 speech to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council, McCain never mentioned the need to preserve American sovereignty. He could have reassured conservatives by stating his forthright opposition to Senate ratification of the U.N.’s Law of the Sea Treaty, which provides for international control over billions of dollars worth of oil, gas and minerals and undermines American claims to North Pole riches. But he chose not to.


Instead, as the Washington Post put it, McCain promised “a collaborative foreign policy,” conducted in coordination with other nations. The New York Times said he distanced himself from “unilateralism” in foreign affairs.


“Liberals are going to love this speech,” conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh said about the McCain address. He said it sounded like the “global test” that liberal Democratic presidential candidate and Senator John Kerry had proposed for U.S. foreign policy in 2004.


Yet, McCain’s new TV ad calls him “the American president Americans have been waiting for.” The public should not be fooled. He is as much of a globalist as Hillary and Obama.


Noting that McCain committed himself to adoption of a new U.N.-sponsored global warming treaty, which would be even more comprehensive and tougher than the Kyoto Protocol, Limbaugh said that “The theme here is that there’s nothing special about America, and that we’re not going to be able to do anything without involving other nations and making them like us and showing them that we intend them no harm and that we want to be good stewards of the planet just as they want to be good stewards.”


The latter was a reference to McCain declaring that “We need to be good stewards of our planet and join with other nations to help preserve our common home. The risks of global warming have no borders.” McCain sounded like another Democrat53;Al Gore.


But despite his preference for what appears to be some kind of New World Order, McCain’s prior endorsement of a new Muslim state in Europe by the name of Kosovo could undermine all of his best-laid plans. Recognition of Kosovo could lead to war with Russia and more terrorist problems for Israel.


Scary Rhetoric


Bobby Eberle of GOPUSA commented, “Sen. McCain delivered a laundry list of all things non-conservative.” He said the speech wasn’t conservative or even Republican.


Amanda Teegarden, a grass roots pro-sovereignty activist, was also alarmed. “It is imperative that conservatives listen to this speech53;especially if you are concerned about the sovereignty, and the economic survival, of the United States,” she said.


In addition to a new global warming treaty, she noted that McCain’s proposals included open borders in the Western Hemisphere, nuclear disarmament, and a Transatlantic free trade area.


Eberle focused on a segment of the McCain speech that included the statement that “Relations with our southern neighbors must be governed by mutual respect, not by an imperial impulse or by anti-American demagoguery. The promise of North, Central, and South American life is too great for that. I believe the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South. Ours can be the first completely democratic hemisphere, where trade is free across all borders, where the rule of law and the power of free markets advance the security and prosperity of all.”


McCain’s strange rhetoric about “North, Central, and South American life” reflects a view that nation-states are disappearing and being replaced by regional alliances and institutions. He referred to “the powerful collective voice of the European Union,” as if the U.S. response would have to be submersion of our voice in a larger hemispheric entity. But McCain seems to be calling for something beyond even a North American Union (NAU) of the U.S., Mexico, and Canada. He talked about “creating the new international institutions necessary to advance the peace and freedoms we cherish,” as if they would be built on top of the EU and the NAU.


Earlier, McCain had declared, “With globalization, our hemisphere has grown closer, more integrated, and more interdependent. Latin America today is increasingly vital to the fortunes of the United States. Americans north and south share a common geography and a common destiny.” But why should trade with America’s neighbors necessarily lead to a “common destiny?” This implies a political merger of the U.S. with other countries.


Nuclear Disarmament


“We should work to reduce nuclear arsenals all around the world, starting with our own,” McCain said. This appeared to be a call for unilateral nuclear disarmament. He went on to call for the U.S. to lead “a global effort at nuclear disarmament.” This, too, seems to require more reliance on international institutions, in this case the U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Indeed, McCain in the past has called for more funding for the IAEA.


McCain added, “We have to strengthen our global alliances as the core of a new global compact53;a League of Democracies53;that can harness the vast influence of the more than 100 democratic nations around the world to advance our values and defend our shared interests.” But as I noted in a recent piece, “McCain, Soros, and the New World Order,” this is a liberal project that is being currently funded by left-wing billionaire George Soros and managed by former Clinton officials. It has nothing to do with democracy but is intended to create another global institution that will eventually help strengthen the U.N.

After calling for the closing of the terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo Bay (but not saying where he would put the detainees), McCain declared that “There is such a thing as international good citizenship.” This is the kind of rhetoric we would expect from an advocate of world government. If Hillary or Obama were spouting such silly rhetoric, conservatives would be laughing at them.


It goes without saying that McCain is oblivious to the evidence that the man-made global warming theory doesn’t hold up under serious scrutiny. His proposal for “a successor to the Kyoto Treaty” that “delivers the necessary environmental impact in an economically responsible manner” is potentially very damaging to the U.S. economy. But the proposal pleases the Europeans.


McCain talked about the virtues of the “transatlantic alliance,” which served a purpose during the Cold War with the Soviet Union, but went on to say that “Americans should welcome the rise of a strong, confident European Union as we continue to support a strong NATO.” The European Union was devised primarily as a counter to the influence of the U.S. in foreign affairs. It has also proven to be a bureaucratic disaster for the people of Europe. The “strong NATO” has proven to be extremely weak in Afghanistan, where it cannot field enough troops to defeat the Taliban terrorists. Expanding NATO has not resulted in making it stronger.


“The future of the transatlantic relationship lies in confronting the challenges of the twenty-first century worldwide: developing a common energy policy, creating a transatlantic common market tying our economies more closely together, addressing the dangers posed by a revanchist Russia, and institutionalizing our cooperation on issues such as climate change, foreign assistance, and democracy promotion,” declared McCain.


So not only is the U.S. going to move toward common policies for North, South and Central America, but it is going to develop common energy and economic policies with the European Union. Developing a common policy on “foreign assistance” is a recipe for more looting of the U.S. taxpayers. The Europeans have long complained that the U.S. isn’t devoting enough money to “official development assistance,” as the U.N. calls it.


Nightmare Vision


Does McCain’s vision look like an emerging world government? It is certainly a variation of “global governance,” which is the proposal that former Clinton State Department official Strobe Talbott makes in his book, The Great Experiment. Talbott calls McCain a “pragmatist” in foreign affairs, just like Obama and Hillary, and says that he expects his liberal Brookings Institution to have influence over a McCain presidency.


On other issues in his speech, McCain talked tough about Iran and Russia.


The big problem for McCain, as we noted in a recent column, is that his vision of a New World Order is incompatible with his support for making the Serbian province of Kosovo into an independent state. Carving Kosovo out of Serbia is a threat to international peace and security. It has split NATO, which McCain says he wants to expand and strengthen. This policy, which has also been embraced by the Democrats, threatens a completely unnecessary war with Russia, which backs Serbian control of Kosovo and wants to aid the Serbs remaining in the province.


McCain spoke about Israel’s survival, without addressing the reality that Kosovo’s independence has energized the Arab/Muslim push for a Palestinian state that could threaten Israel.


While McCain said that the threat of radical Islamic terrorism is “the transcendent challenge of our time,” he seemed unaware how some of those same forces are behind the push for Kosovo statehood. It just doesn’t make sense to fight Muslim extremists in one place, Iraq, while helping them in another, Kosovo, and even giving them their own state.


This is a contradiction that McCain has failed to address.


“We have incurred a moral responsibility in Iraq,” the Senator declared. “It would be an unconscionable act of betrayal, a stain on our character as a great nation, if we were to walk away from the Iraqi people and consign them to the horrendous violence, ethnic cleansing, and possibly genocide that would follow a reckless, irresponsible, and premature withdrawal.”


This rhetoric strikes a chord with conservatives. Yet, some say that genocide is already occurring in Iraq, in regard to the plight of Christians there. More than half have fled the country since the U.S. invasion, and those who remain are being kidnapped, threatened and murdered. Do we not have a moral responsibility to them? Shouldn’t the U.S. be less concerned about the survival of the Muslim government in Iraq and more concerned about the defenseless and unarmed Christians?


McCain seemed blind not only to the issues that conservatives regard as critical in an election year, but he went out of his way to reach out to liberals and Democrats. The only part of the speech they probably didn’t like was on Iraq.




But if the liberals get beyond their differences with McCain on Iraq, they will not only vote for him but promote his agenda as president. Then, as Rush Limbaugh notes, it may eventually be possible to change the name of the United States of America: “We’ll call ourselves New Europe.” In the process, true conservatism as a political force will be finished in the U.S.


The tragedy of this approach is that it comes from a man who served his country in uniform and risked his life on behalf of the U.S. McCain would have been a natural choice to lead a campaign for restoration of American sovereignty in foreign affairs. He could have been “The American President Americans have been waiting for.”


For reasons that remain largely a mystery, he has chosen to take the U.S. down the road of “global governance,” in which the U.N. and other international agencies, institutions and alliances determine our fate as a nation. It is the same road the Democrats are on. It is a tragedy for our country.

Juan McDouchebag, resurrected from the dead, is the end of the road for the CFR-R wing of THE party. Real elections in America are OVER. Welcome to the North American Union. Your spanish capabilities might get you a corncob on a stick if you're lucky...

FOH  posted on  2008-04-17   1:10:28 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: FOH, jethro tull, mudboy slim, noone222, christine, paul revere, lodwick, allthekings'horseswontdoit, anyone else who gives a shit (#144)

After the speech McCain gave today 3/26, about closing Gitmo and torture, and the global B.S. he will never get my vote, even if he RAN UNOPPOSED. -- Bob L.

I could write a good persuasive essay on this but I'll keep it to the point. The irony is that, for all practical purposes, he is running unopposed. The only thing we get to choose is the manner in which we will die. We can either sit back and take it like lambs, or go down fighting.
Dammit, our children's future depends on us now, more so than at any time in our history! We are indeed UNDER ATTACK by domestic traitors.. The enemies have shown themselves and we do nothing. Are our own flesh and blood not worth more? Will we really remain passive while their freedom and lives are destroyed? Meanwhile, China and the rest of the world will sit back and wait for the spoils.

"V"

IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-17   2:57:39 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: IndieTX (#147)

"...our children's future depends on us now, more so than at any time in our history! We are indeed UNDER ATTACK by domestic traitors.."

Yep...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   11:33:41 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: All (#153)

Another snooty black dude...who'd a thunk it?!

LOL...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   12:01:27 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: All (#154) (Edited)

"Kosovo Slaughter!!"
(To be sung to Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water")

Yugoslavs thought they were sovereign...
Forgot 'bout that New World Order...
'Cuz NATO wanted a li'l more Power...
And Clinton's motives were VILE!!
Well, Slick willie had a problem...
His Impeachment was bringin' him down...
Said, "Networks need 'em a story...
I'll bomb the Serbs outta town!!!"

Kosovo Slaughter...Death rainin' from the sky!!
Innocents slaughtered!!

Slick burned down the Waco House...
Kids FRIED!! What an Evil Sound...
In Viet Nam, Slick LIED and chickened out...
Now, Bill LOVES puttin' kids underground!!
When it all was over...
Them Sheeple they knew their place!!
But Slick's time is runnin' out...
SEEK JUSTICE...Slick must be DISGRACED!!!

Vile Waco Slaughter...small children, they did fry!!
Innocence slaughtered...

(Excellent guitar jammin')

We'll freep Slick up on Capitol Hill...
Slick's heart's empty, cold, and hard!!
Yes, we'll keep freepin'...we must not stop!!
Left's just not Right!! The Righteous the Left doth fear!!
It's a worthwhile fight...gotta use our heads (UNNNHHH!!)
Truth's gonna save the day...
No matter what...Bill will feel Justice!!
We know...Slick knows freepers never forget!!

Kosovo Slaughter...Death rainin' from the sky!!!
Dethrone the TYRANT!!

Mudboy Slim (08/08/2000)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   13:08:26 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Mudboy Slim (#158)

I'm with ya Mud! My parents were brother and sister too!

Ghost of Inbred Cousin Humpers  posted on  2008-04-17   13:10:37 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Ghost of Inbred Cousin Humpers (#159)

Not quite, but my parents did know each other since they were kids...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   13:13:17 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: All (#160)

McCain v. McCain...LOL!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-18   10:18:33 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: All (#161)

"Star-Spangled Banner"

Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wiped out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Francis Scott Key (1779 - 1843)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-18   10:24:45 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: All (#162)

"Eighty-one" in Taoist I Ching teachings...

Truthful words are not beautiful.
Beautiful words are not truthful.
Good men do not argue.
Those who argue are not good.
Those who know are not learned.
The learned do not know.

The sage never tries to store things up.
The more he does for others, the more he has.
The more he gives to others, the greater his abundance.
The Tao of heaven is pointed but does no harm.
The Tao of the sage is work without effort.

Sounds sorta like Adam Smith, if ya ask me!!

Regards...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-18   11:08:56 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: All (#163)

"MUD's Brothers!!"
(To be sung to Bruce Springsteen's "Blood Brothers!!")

We played King of the Mountain...I'd always win.
Those boyz came chargin' up the hill...and I'd whup 'em into MEN!!
Now we've only so much time...fight or our Liberty'll Fade Away!!
We have our own roads to ride...and choices we gotta make!!
We'll stand side by side...each one fightin' fer the other...
We said until we died, we'd always be BloodBrothers!!

Folks, there's VILEness in this World...don'let it grind yer dreams away!!!
SlickWillieFOOLS're jokes!! Dudes, Fer Justice We Shall Pray!!
'Cuz what once seemed Black and White...Lib'rals turned to shades of gray...
We lose ourselves in work...work to do and bills to pay...
It's been a wild, wild ride...and there ain't much cover...
Yer the ones helpin' me stay Right...yer MUD's brothers!!

(Mudboy on harp)

Some of my FReeper friends're dead...others left and shan't be back.
Still, we're movin' ahead...MUD ain't never lookin' back!!
Bros, I know just how you feel...I know YOU know "We're Doing Right!!"
If I've fallen 'neath the wheel, if I've lost or I've gained sight...
I don't even know why, I don't know why I wrote this song...
Or if any of this matters anymore after all....

But the Gipper's burnin' bright...livin' history uncovered...
MUD'll keep grooooovin' through the dark...with y'all in my heart...
Yer MUD's brothers!!

(Mudboy takin' it home on the harmonica...Slick Willie impersonator on saxaphone)

Sic Semper Tyrannis...MUD (03/11/2003)

BTW...this is dedicated to my three younger bro's, the oldest of whom is an AF Captain, away from his wife and two boys who are based in Ramstad, Germany. Springsteen ROCKS...I rest my case.

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-18   11:45:03 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: All (#164)

"Money Ain't Nuthin'!!"
(To be sung to Dire Straits' "Money For Nothing")

I love the E-I-B...

Now look at Rush Limbaugh, that's the way to do it...
Hosts a talkshow trashin' Hypocrisy.
Rush ain't working, tells the Left to screw it...
Beholden to no one...spoutin' philosophy!
No, Rush ain't workin', that's the way you do it...
Lemme tell ya, Ol' Rush ain't dumb...
Ceegah danglin' from nicotine-stained fingers...
Gonna help exposin' Lib'ral Scum!

Rush's show ain't no Oprah-style "love-in"...
Got us brain-washed from noon-to-three-ee-ee!
You choose the issue, and we'll debate it...
We learn the Truth from the E-I-B!!

Oww!...Groovy Croonin'...hunh!...

See that Petey Jennings with the blowdry and the makeup...
Tom Brokaw's vacuous stare...
That Lib'ral Rather's got his own jet airplane...
Left's IDIOTS...they're all millionaires!!

We gotta expose Guv'ment corruption...
Gotta defend our Libertie-ie-ies!
We're talkin' TREASON...the Left, they hate us...
Won't trust the news from Network TeeVee!!

Lookatdat, lookatdat...
Right's gotta learn to fight like Dem-Whores...
Right's gotta yearn to crush Dem-Bums!
Wake up, you Sheeple!! Big Guv'ment's threatnin' all your Liberties...
Man, that Slick's just pond scum!!
But Limbaugh's out there...what's that?! Chain-sawin' noises?!
Carvin' up those Lib'rals...it's brain surgery!
Folks, it's workin'...tell the Left to screw it!!
Robs YOUR money for Guv'ment...sells Nukes to Beijing!

They're Lib'rals all...Reject Media Bias...
Left-Wing bitchin', "Big Guv'ment, save me-e-ee!"
We gotta oust those meek commentators...
We gotta IGNORE our State-run TeeVee!! Lord!

Owww...listen here!
Big Guv'ment ain't workin'...corruption runs all thru it...
It's time we devolved Power outta DeeCee!!
Folks, it's workin'...next election's gonna do it.
Right-Wing holds Congress...retakes the Prez'dency!!
Money ain't nuthin'...without Liberty!
I said, money ain't nuthin'...if your kids ain't free!

Lib'rals are...Socialists!
I want my...I need my...I love my Lib-er-ty!!

(Chorus...to fade)

Quite Sincerely--MUD (10/28/2001)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-18   18:15:47 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: All (#165)

"Ain't Jokin'!!"
(To be sung to Steve Miller Band's "The Joker")

Dem sheeple call MUD a spaced-out boy.....yeah...
'Cuz I see a future that's Just.
Some ol' friends call me Moe Reese...
'Cuz I seek the Imprisonment of S.C.U.M.**!!

Sheeple squawk, "Let Willie Be!!"
Say Right's tellin' you wrong, steerin' you wrong...
Well, don't you worry, Nation, don't worry...
Cause MUD's right here--fightin'--right here where he belongs!!

'Cuz MUD's a freeper...MUD's a grinnin'...
Slick's a Felon...should be in prison...
We'll freep Left's music 'gainst RATS' S.C.U.M.**!!

I ain't jokin'...Laws've been broken...
DemRATS' are misspoken...
Demand Justice fer Slick's TREASON!! Wooo Hooooo Wooo Hooo...!!

(CM and the BigMan workin' the guitars)

Slick's the cutest thing that Bill's cellmates'll see...
Prisoners LOVE DemPhatThighs...gonna make Slick SQUEEEEAL!!!
Lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey all the time...
Sue me, Willie...if MUD don't git this just Right!!

Folks, keep freepin'...'gainst Bill Clinton!!
Slick's a Felon...must be imprisoned...
We'll sing MUD's music with Ol' Rush!!

I ain't jokin'...Truth's unspoken...
Slick's a Crim'nal Joker!!
Nation, REJECT RATS' Commie S.C.U.M.**!!

(Mo' funky guitar)

WOO HOOO WOOO HOOOO...!!
Patriots, keep talking about Slick Willie...
'Cuz Ol' Slick did US all wrong-ong...
Well don't you worry, don't worry, no don't worry, Country!!
Cause MUD's right here...Slick's TOAST!!

Slick's the cutest thing that Bill's cellmates'll see...
Prisoners LOVE DemPhatThighs...gonna make Slick SQUEEEEAL!!!
Lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey all the time...
Sue me, Willie...if MUD don't git this just Right!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...MUD (06/12/03)

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-20   11:21:48 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: All (#166)

"FRee Iraq!!"
(To be sung to Bob Seger's "Like a Rock")

Strength and Boldness...Whuppin' Lib'ral Scum!!
Ignorance is Legion...DemRATS're Sleazy BUMS!!
We fight fer freedom...Right's never been this strong...Free Iraq!!

Left's like pre-teens...RATS don't have a CLUE!!
Libs LOATHE our freedoms...Ignorant Poltroons!!
Folks, Right is Winning...Socialists Dispair!! Freepers ROCK!!

These days're heady...our Fight's 'tween Wrong and Right!!
Our Noble Purpose...the World we shall Enlight!!
Right must hold firmly...'cuz Freedom's Worth the Fight!!
Freedom ROCKS!!

Freemen ROCK!! RightWing's Strong 'cuz we are free!!
Free Iraq!! Liberate the WHOLE MidEast!!
Free Iraq, sheeple blossom when free...Free Iraq!!

God is GOOD, God is Great!! In His Hands we trust our Fate!!
Reject Left's hustlers and RATS' schemes!!
Right stand proud...Right stand tall...Left's about to Fall!!!
MUD still believes in his dreams!!

(The BigMan killin' it on guitar...J-dog on pie-anny)

Forty years, Lord...Where'd they go?!
Forty years...I'm gittin' olde!!
Still, we're fightin' against...Clinton's SCUM!!

And sometimes late at night...ohhh, when I'm freepin' by candlelight...
The tunes come to me and All IS Right!!
And I recall...I recall....

Free Iraq!! Freedom's the World's Fate!!
Freemen ROCK!! Shrink the Fed'ralist State!!
Like Iraq!! The World We'll Liberate...like Iraq!!

Freepers ROCK!!! Treason's why we freep Slick!!
RATS're "shocked"...Left's arses Right Shall Kick!!
Like Iraq, the Righteous Win AGAIN...Like Iraq!!

Mudboy Slim (04/09/03)

BTW...RE-IMPEACH. CONVICT. DETHRONE.
DISBAR. DE-PENSION. DE-LEGITIMIZE.
INDICT. CONVICT. IMPRISON. DISCARD KEY.

Stay the course...finish the job...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-20   11:57:16 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Mudboy Slim (#167)

mudboy, please cease spamming 4um with your song parodies. thanks.

christine  posted on  2008-04-20   13:19:17 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: christine (#170)

mudboy, please cease spamming 4um with your song parodies. thanks.

The collective IQ around here will rise 15 points when he stops.

...  posted on  2008-04-20   13:23:09 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: ... (#171)

Shaddup, bootlicker.

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-20   19:27:47 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 173.

#174. To: All (#173)

"Waco...the BIG Lie!!"

Waco was MURDER...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-20 20:39:38 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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