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Published: Apr 15, 2008
Author: Mudboy Slim
Post Date: 2008-04-15 11:33:52 by Mudboy Slim
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Heh heh heh...MUD
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#308. To: FormerLurker, Rotara, Rupert_Pupkin (#297)
EIB: "Sarah Hammers Obama on Surge!!" BEGIN TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Sarah Palin, by the way, in Cedarburg, Wisconsin, is continuing to do to Senator Obama what the Reverend Jackson suggested a few months ago. PALIN: Just last night Senator Obama finally broke and brought himself to admit what all the rest of us have known for quite some time, and that's: thanks to the skill and valor of our troops, the surge in Iraq has succeeded. Senator Obama said that the surge, quote, "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams. I think," said Senator Obama, "that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated." I guess when you turn out to be profoundly wrong on a vital national security issue, maybe it's comforting to pretend that everyone else was wrong, too. RUSH: This woman is dynamite! I mean, this woman is just hammering this poor little man-child! This woman is smart. What an analogy! It succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams? See, this is where Obama's dead wrong. If it succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams, why plan it? It succeeded as planned, Obama! It succeeded as planned. It was beyond YOUR wildest dreams. I'll tell you something else. He still said, after all this, that he would have opposed it. So he's still gathering. He's still gathering the little nuts and those acorns that make up the loony left of his base. END TRANSCRIPT Sorry, all you TwoPercenters, some of us like Governor Palin becuz of her mind...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Stick your rush up your cheney.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
The Federal Leviathan really only needs to protect our National Security and defend our borders, the States can pretty much handle everything else. You are not telling me anything I don't know when you point out that BOTH Parties have failed to defend our borders, but you gotta admit the RATS have utterly failed to defend our national interests. And yes, a lotta RINOs have undermined ReaganConservatism over the years, and I pretty much never sing the praises of "GOPers" or "Republicans" or "Pubbies" becuz, as a whole, the GOP has NOT lived up to their promises of fiscal conservatism. But being a RightWinger means you understand that a $3 Trillion Federal Leviathan is too big, too intrusive, and too damned expensive. That's 20% of the Gross Domestic Product siphoned off from those who earned it and given to those who didn't earn it (except the military, of course). RightWingers/ReaganConservatives understand that America would be far better off with a Federal Leviathan that takes only 8-12% of the GDP. Commie-Pinko RATS (aka the Left), OTOH, would like to see that 20% grow to 30% and then 40%...you know full well Barry Hussein's a full-fledged Marxist, yet still you prefer to pretend like there ain't no difference between the Parties...LOL!! Rotara, 'tis YOU that is full of bullcrap...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Not unless Christine tells me I'm no longer allowed to post here...MUD BTW...I hope I'm not breaking any rules around here by not supporting a 3rd- Party candidate fer POTUS...LOL!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, But being a RightWinger means you understand that a $3 Trillion Federal Leviathan is too big, too intrusive, and too damned expensive. That's 20% of the Gross Domestic Product siphoned off from those who earned it and given to those who didn't earn it (except the military, of course). RightWingers/ReaganConservatives understand that America would be far better off with a Federal Leviathan that takes only 8-12% of the GDP. Commie-Pinko RATS (aka the Left), OTOH, would like to see that 20% grow to 30% and then 40%...you know full well Barry Hussein's a full-fledged Marxist, yet still you prefer to pretend like there ain't no difference between the Parties...LOL!! Rotara, 'tis YOU that is full of bullcrap...MUD Hardly. You have it ALL on spot, EXCEPT you can't account for the economy being driven to collapse WITH A Repubican in the WH and REPUBICANS in the majority in BOTH the House and Senate! So we go high taxes and spend for 8 years (while world government grows closer to total control) and then we go less high taxes for 8 years (while world government grows closer to total control). You're just too partisan to understand the game. You're a classic sucker with no excuses left.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Not unless Christine tells me I'm no longer allowed to post here...MUD BTW...I hope I'm not breaking any rules around here by not supporting a 3rd- Party candidate fer POTUS...LOL!! I would've 86'ed you the FIRST time you deliberately shoved your ball cheese in her face - when she gave you a very explicit warning.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
September 11th, 2001: Your neocon boy booooosh and Co. allowed or directly participated in act of treason against America that left thousands of Americans dead on our own soil, led to thousands more dying plus tens of thousands maimed - with countless more suffering mentally and emotionally from a new world order bullshit war (not to mention the murdered and maimed Iraqis) - by not stopping and probably even taking an active role in the attacks (done by AmeriKan government assets aka Osama bin Laden & Co.). The evidence now is clear, booooooosh and the other neocons at the least allowed this to happen and then used it for their new world order aims. You now own that, too. Stuff that in your Patriot Act / Domestic Terrorism Act / Military Commissions Act / National Defense Authorization Act and SMOKE IT BITCH.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
By Don Feder I just got back from the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, D.C., where conservatives began lining up behind a man who’s been sticking it to us for years. By a process of self-hypnosis, many have managed to convince themselves that McCain is actually one of us. Not for nothing did Benjamin Disraeli call conservatives the stupid party. What part of John McCain do we not get? McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Edwards -- among other socialist, anti-speech, open-borders, enviro-Marxist measures he’s co-sponsored with the hardcore left of the Democratic Party over the years. If Il Duce had served with him in the United States Senate, there would be McCain-Mussolini. The moment Mitt Romney “suspended” his campaign and McCain became inevitable, the squawking began: “You mean you’d actually prefer Hillary or Obama (judges)? At least McCain is pro-life (judges). He’s a war hero who’ll ably lead us in the War on Terrorism (judges). Did we mention that he’ll appoint conservative judges?” Before the chorus of amnesiac Chicken Littles drowns out the voices of reason, here are 10 reasons why conservatives should sever their right hands at the wrist before they pull the McCain lever in November: 1. Immigration – He’s not just pro-open borders, he’s Senor Amnesty – co-sponsor of McCain-Kennedy, which would have legalized 15 million illegal aliens, allowed them to bring in tens of millions of their mooching relatives (including the elderly and infirm), given them credit for past Social Security contributions, etc. The Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector said McCain-Kennedy would have constituted the largest expansion of the welfare state in U.S. history (at an estimated cost of $2.6 trillion). A Republican who served with McNasty in the Senate said he was forever haranguing his GOP colleagues about being perceived as “xenophobes” for not supporting amnesty. At CPAC, he told conservatives he’s heard us. He’ll secure the borders first, then push amnesty – which, of course, will negate anything he does at the border. Build it (a suicidal welfare state that embraces alien intruders), and a fence won’t keep them out. 2. Multiculturalism – If his advocacy of open borders wasn’t enough, McCain has also opposed official English and supported bi-lingual education (two more issues where he’s out-of-step with the overwhelming majority of his countrymen). McCain even voted for an amendment that would have codified Clinton’s Executive Order 13166, requiring recipients of federal funding, like hospitals, to provide translation services in any language requested. (When it comes to pandering, cost is no object.) No wonder he’s a hero to LULAC (the separatist League of United Latin American Citizens), Geraldo Rivera and Juan Hernandez (his Hispanic outreach director, who says he’d like 7th. generation Mexican-Americans to think of themselves as Mexicans first). Look for President McCain to make Cinco de Mayo a national holiday, give his inaugural address in Arabic and light an annual Kwanza whatever on the White House lawn. 3. Enviro-Marxism – McCain’s supporters think he’s just the man to lead America in the War on Terrorism. What’s the principal weapon of terrorist states? Oil. What does McCain want to keep America from producing more of? Oil. In 2003, McCain was one of only 6 Republican senators to vote against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. For McCain, keeping America dependent on Middle Eastern oil is a small price to pay to make the caribou comfortable. He’s also the proud co-sponsor of McCain-Lieberman – a $660 billion monument to the myth of man-made global warming (an industry-killing cap on CO2 emissions), which would annihilate tens of thousands of American jobs and make us far less competitive. By what twisted logic does open borders, crippling U.S.industry and energy dependence equal national security? 4. Class Warfare – In the recent debate at the Reagan Library, McCain called Romney a “manager for profits” (would he prefer a businessman who managed for losses?) who has “laid people off” – thus demonstrating how little the Senator understands the market economy. Jobs aren’t permanent -- except for those who’ve served in the Senate for 21 years -- and sometimes they have to disappear so others can be created. In 2001, McCain was one of only two Republican Senators to vote against the Bush tax cuts. In 2003, he was one of only three. Now, he says it’s because there weren’t matching spending cuts. Then he called them “tax cuts for the rich.” This comes from a man who never held a private-sector job and made his money the old-fashioned way – by marrying an heiress whose father subsidized his early campaigns. 5. 6. Judicial Nominations – Though McCain denies it, columnist Robert Novak swears the frontrunner told him prior to confirmation of Justice Samuel Alito that the nominee was too conservative, and that he preferred those who “didn’t wear their conservatism on their sleeve” (like Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy?). McCain was also part of the Gang of 14 which prevented a rules change that would have stopped unconstitutional filibusters on judicial nominations. Former New Hampshire Senator Warren Rudman was responsible for the Supreme Court nomination of David Souter -- the most disastrous Republican appointment since Earl Warren. (The play was Rudman to then-Chief of Staff John Sununu to Bush Sr.) Rudman has a prominent role in McCain’s campaign. Rudman could be President McCain’s Attorney General, giving him more say on judicial nominations than anyone other than the president. In his 1996 book, Rudman wrote that Christian conservatives include in their ranks “enough anti-abortion zealots, would-be censors, homophobes, bigots and latter-day Elmer Gantrys to discredit any party that is unwise enough” to align itself with them. With Warren Rudman at his side, it’s anyone’s guess whether McCain’s Supreme Court picks would be appreciably better than Clinton’s or Obama’s. 7. War on Terrorism – We’ve already noted McCain’s support for energy dependence and his crusade for open borders. (Besides all of the rapists, drug-dealers and gang members coming across our Southern border, terrorists are also infiltrating the United States due to the de facto surrender of national sovereignty.) McCain wants to close Guantanamo and give terrorists the same rights as enemy combatants. He opposes tough interrogation techniques that leave no scars, but have elicited the intelligence that has saved American lives. (Personally, I’d use thumbscrews and the iron maiden on this scum.) A McCain anti-terrorism policy is more likely to be shaped by his friends at the ACLU and The New York Times than by the Center for Security Policy. 8. McPsycho – McCain is famous for going postal on his Republican colleagues -- dropping the F-word, calling them f---ing idiots and worse. His dangerous inability to control his temper comes from a God-complex and an ingrained contempt for other human beings. One of his colleagues commented, “I don’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” Given his mental state, McCain could end up nuking Terre Haute instead of Tehran. 9. Reaching across the aisle – This is media-speak for a Republican sell-out who conspires with the left. McCain doesn’t reach across the aisle – he leaps. Former Senator Rick Santorum discloses: “The bottom line is that I served 12 years with him (McCain), 6 years in the United States Senate as a leader, one of the leaders of the Senate – the number-3 leader – who had the responsibility of trying to put together the conservative agenda, and at almost every turn on domestic policy, John McCain was not only against us, but leading the charge on the other side.” Republican presidents who are unsure of themselves too often try to placate the other party. For McCain, working with the left is his natural inclination. He’ll turn to the Kennedys, Feingolds and Liebermans not as a last resort, but as a first. 10. Rally or Roll-Over -- If a Democrat takes the oath of office next January, Congressional Republicans will find their principles again. From 1993 to 1995, without a majority in either House, Republicans fought Bill Clinton to a legislative standstill. They went on to win the House and Senate in the 1994 election -- for the first time in 40 years – and to hold both for a decade. If McCain is elected, it will be roll-over time for Congressional Republicans – on taxes, regulation, environmentalism, speech-suppression, internationalism, multiculturalism, civil liberties for terrorists and open-borders. (When it comes to arm-twisting, Captain Queeg would make Bush look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.) This time, instead of losing power for a few years, the party could be permanently discredited. Ultimately, all of this is academic. McCain’s chances of becoming the next president are none – and none. Since 1964, Republicans have won 7 of 10 presidential elections. They lost in 1976, 1992 and 1996. Each time, the party was saddled with a standard-bearer – Ford, Bush ’41, Dole – that a large part of the base couldn’t stand. The American people are basically conservative. At some point, the Democrats always give away the game – expose themselves as the party of socialism, pacifism, racial-pandering and treason. They only win when Republicans sound an uncertain trumpet. McCain is a kazoo played by an asthmatic. McCain is also old, abrasive and unlovable. (It was said of Bob Dole, another war hero, that he couldn’t sell beer on a troop ship. McCain couldn’t give it away.) Once the Democrats pick their nominee, McCain’s media cheerleaders will pack up their pompoms and move to the other side of the field. President Bush – he of “compassionate conservatism,” mega-spending hikes and Hamas statehood– has just announced that John McCain is a “true conservative.” I rest my case. I never cared for Don F. one way or the other personally, but this is very insightful. He sees this stupid "War on Terror" as blindly as you do and he also leaves much out, but he's got it mostly right for a partisan bone head.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Joe Biden On Fire
How many babies have to Die before Joe gets it. Gets it in that he is responsible for millions of dead babies.
That would be nice.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
On fire for Israel. Notice how he suggests that what they did say (meaning on the subject of endless war) wasn't so much a problem. And he dares not to mention illegal immigration and its relationship to slavery, himself.
"TOP REASON TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN" He ain't the Great&MercifulLordMessiahObama, a Marxist amongst Marxists in the RAT Party...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, That's 'cuz yer a whiney li'l wuss, afraid of debate, and actively irrelevant...LOL!! Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, LOL...the economy ain't gonna collapse, that's just silly fear-mongering that the RAT-Media's been feeding us fer a coupla years. Looks like yer the sucker in this equation...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, He ain't the Great&MercifulLordMessiahObama, a Marxist amongst Marxists in the RAT Party...MUD You're a sucker, played like a fiddle.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That's 'cuz yer a whiney li'l wuss, afraid of debate, and actively irrelevant...LOL!! Regards...MUD We'll see, CFR butt boy.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
LOL...the economy ain't gonna collapse, that's just silly fear-mongering that the RAT-Media's been feeding us fer a coupla years. Looks like yer the sucker in this equation...MUD We you born stupid, or was it all the drugs? Did you have to check in your brain in order to be a repubican?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Rumor has it that the guy was a serious contender for McCain's VP slot, but they couldn't get the Constitution amended to allow illegal aliens on the ticket in time for November.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I didn't get that. Who or what is sinkspur?
Over the next 58 days, watch the market run contrary to Barry Hussein's alleged success in the polls, and vice versa. If it appears more and more likely that Obama will LOSE in November, the stock market will appreciably rise. Otherwise, the market will tank, imho. Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, A guy from Texas who used to be a FReeper...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Yep...Sinky's a member of the ModSquad over on GOPachy.com...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, "The Battle Over McCain's Maverick Political Soul!!"...LOL!! This is a battle that will resonate long after November 4th of this year. The battle over Barry Hussein's political soul has already been won...Obama's a full-fledged Marxist...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, 333...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I saw one of your posts on LP where you claimed you "weren't on the fence anymore" and that you were going to vote for McCain now (I posted that comment on a thread here somewhere). Why don't you come clean and admit you will vote for any horse's ass as long as it has an R after its name and admit that you were planning to vote for him all along? I am not an Obama supporter because they are too much alike and that is why I won't vote for either of them. But it seems some people love those D and R letters so much that that is all it takes for them to sell their souls and sell out America every four years.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. And John McCain is a effin' traitor who sold out to the communists years ago and talked down to the families of the POW's (ever seen that video?). Apparently that was to further his interest in putting a Budweiser distributorship in Vietnam. Some hero you are touting there.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. "...admit you will vote for any horse's ass as long as it has an R" That's simply not true, Jimmy...when I was in high school in the early 80's, I became a ReaganConservative and once in college, I joined the College Republicans. However, in 2002, when my Virginia Senator John Warner was running fer reelection, I couldn't support that RINO and became an Independent. Yeah, I still supported my other GOP Senator--George Allen--and my GOP Congresscritter--Eric Cantor--but I am NOT someone who supports every GOPer with an "R" behind their name. "...admit that you were planning to vote for him all along" That's simply untrue, Mr. Deffenbach. If you read my stuff on LP or elsewhere, you will have to agree that my vote doesn't matter in this election as Obama's gonna git whupped in Virginia by a good 5-8% minimum. McCain was just about last in my list of Pubbies I wanted to be carrying the Republican banner into this Presidential campaign. However, if you look at the agenda he's proposing, it is strong on domestic drilling (it'll be better once he inevitably endorses drilling in ANWR), he's focused on decreasing spending instead of raising taxes to energize the economy, and he's not gonna surrender the War Against Islamofascism like Barry Hussein is obviously ready to do. Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. So, to set the record straight, you have been against exactly ONE horse's ass who had an R after his name? Gotcha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL...fwiw, I have NEVER voted fer a RAT and never will. But I've often voted fer Libertarians at the local level...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Funny that. It only takes one Rudman, McCain and Bush to discredit the so-called "Republican" party. They should change the name of their one party to Republirat--or Demonrat--and just admit it is all a big con and be done with it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. uh huh. Libertarians are fine at the local level but it has to be a Republirat when it comes to higher offices. I got it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. With Warren Rudman at his side and knowing what McCain is anyway, his Supreme Court picks could well be Clinton and/or Obama. He might even want both the Clintons and Obama for the Supreme Court.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. And Bush would know what a "true conservative" was/is? He isn't one, his old man isn't one despite all the ignorant rhetoric to the contrary, so I wonder why he thinks McCain is one.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL! Why would Americans care what that pimp, Rush, said about anything? Sure, he gets something right once in a while but not often enough to waste the time it takes to find one or two little nuggets of truth in all that agitprop and blather.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
From the link: ...Compared to Islamo-fascism, Repubofascism is both real and logically plausible. Unlike the billion Muslims across the world, the Republicans really are working together, and they really are doing something that at least vaguely resembles fascism...
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
Fascism is alive and well today. But you aren't going to find it in Arab countries: www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/red-state-fascism.html The Reality of Red-State Fascism by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. Year's end is the time for big thoughts, so here are mine. The most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing. This huge shift has not been noticed among mainstream punditry, and hence there have been few attempts to explain it – much less have libertarians thought much about what it implies. My own take is this: the Republican takeover of the presidency combined with an unrelenting state of war, has supplied all the levers necessary to convert a burgeoning libertarian movement into a statist one. The remaining ideological justification was left to, and accomplished by, Washington's kept think tanks, who have approved the turn at every crucial step. What this implies for libertarians is a crying need to draw a clear separation between what we believe and what conservatives believe. It also requires that we face the reality of the current threat forthrightly by extending more rhetorical tolerance leftward and less rightward. Let us start from 1994 and work forward. In a stunningly prescient memo, Murray N. Rothbard described the 1994 revolution against the Democrats as follows: a massive and unprecedented public repudiation of President Clinton, his person, his personnel, his ideologies and programs, and all of his works; plus a repudiation of Clinton's Democrat Party; and, most fundamentally, a rejection of the designs, current and proposed, of the Leviathan he heads…. what is being rejected is big government in general (its taxing, mandating, regulating, gun grabbing, and even its spending) and, in particular, its arrogant ambition to control the entire society from the political center. Voters and taxpayers are no longer persuaded of a supposed rationale for American-style central planning…. On the positive side, the public is vigorously and fervently affirming its desire to re-limit and de-centralize government; to increase individual and community liberty; to reduce taxes, mandates, and government intrusion; to return to the cultural and social mores of pre-1960s America, and perhaps much earlier than that. This memo also cautioned against unrelieved optimism, because, Rothbard said, two errors rear their head in most every revolution. First, the reformers do not move fast enough; instead they often experience a crisis of faith and become overwhelmed by demands that they govern "responsibly" rather than tear down the established order. Second, the reformers leave too much in place that can be used by their successors to rebuild the state they worked so hard to dismantle. This permits gains to be reversed as soon as another party takes control. Rothbard urged dramatic cuts in spending, taxing, and regulation, and not just in the domestic area but also in the military and in foreign policy. He saw that this was crucial to any small-government program. He also urged a dismantling of the federal judiciary on grounds that it represents a clear and present danger to American liberty. He urged the young radicals who were just elected to reject gimmicks like the balanced-budget amendment and the line-item veto, in favor of genuine change. None of this happened of course. In fact, the Republican leadership and pundit class began to warn against "kamikaze missions" and speak not of bringing liberty, but rather of governing better than others. Foreshadowing what was to come, Rothbard pointed out: "Unfortunately, the conservative public is all too often taken in by mere rhetoric and fails to weigh the actual deeds of their political icons. So the danger is that Gingrich will succeed not onlyin betraying, but in conning the revolutionary public into thinking that they have already won and can shut up shop and go home." The only way to prevent this, he wrote, was to educate the public, businessmen, students, academics, journalists, and politicians about the true nature of what is going on, and about the vicious nature of the bi-partisan ruling elites. The 1994 revolution failed of course, in part because the anti-government opposition was intimidated into silence by the Oklahoma City bombing of April 1995. The establishment somehow managed to pin the violent act of an ex- military man on the right-wing libertarianism of the American bourgeoisie. It was said by every important public official at that time that to be anti- government was to give aid and support to militias, secessionists, and other domestic terrorists. It was a classic intimidation campaign but, combined with a GOP leadership that never had any intention to change DC, it worked to shut down the opposition. In the last years of the 1990s, the GOP-voting middle class refocused its anger away from government and leviathan and toward the person of Bill Clinton. It was said that he represented some kind of unique moral evil despoiling the White House. That ridiculous Monica scandal culminated in a pathetic and pretentious campaign to impeach Clinton. Impeaching presidents is a great idea, but impeaching them for fibbing about personal peccadilloes is probably the least justifiable ground. It's almost as if that entire campaign was designed to discredit the great institution of impeachment. In any case, this event crystallized the partisanship of the bourgeoisie, driving home the message that the real problem was Clinton and not government; the immorality of the chief executive, not his power; the libertinism of the left-liberals and not their views toward government. The much heralded "leave us alone" coalition had been thoroughly transformed in a pure anti-Clinton movement. The right in this country began to define itself not as pro-freedom, as it had in 1994, but simply as anti-leftist, as it does today. There are many good reasons to be anti-leftist, but let us revisit what Mises said in 1956 concerning the anti-socialists of his day. He pointed out that many of these people had a purely negative agenda, to crush the leftists and their bohemian ways and their intellectual pretension. He warned that this is not a program for freedom. It was a program of hatred that can only degenerate into statism. The moral corruption, the licentiousness and the intellectual sterility of a class of lewd would-be authors and artists is the ransom mankind must pay lest the creative pioneers be prevented from accomplishing their work. Freedom must be granted to all, even to base people, lest the few who can use it for the benefit of mankind be hindered. The license which the shabby characters of the quartier Latin enjoyed was one of the conditions that made possible the ascendance of a few great writers, painters and sculptors. The first thing a genius needs is to breathe free air. He goes on to urge that anti-leftists work to educate themselves about economics, so that they can have a positive agenda to displace their purely negative one. A positive agenda of liberty is the only way we might have been spared the blizzard of government controls that were fastened on this country after Bush used the events of 9-11 to increase central planning, invade Afghanistan and Iraq, and otherwise bring a form of statism to America that makes Clinton look laissez-faire by comparison. The Bush administration has not only faced no resistance from the bourgeoisie. it has received cheers. And they are not only cheering Bush's reelection; they have embraced tyrannical control of society as a means toward accomplishing their anti-leftist ends. After September 11, even those whose ostensible purpose in life is to advocate less government changed their minds. Even after it was clear that 9-11 would be used as the biggest pretense for the expansion of government since the stock market crash of 1929, the Cato Institute said that libertarianism had to change its entire focus: "Libertarians usually enter public debates to call for restrictions on government activity. In the wake of September 11, we have all been reminded of the real purpose of government: to protect our life, liberty, and property from violence. This would be a good time for the federal government to do its job with vigor and determination." The vigor and determination of the Bush administration has brought about a profound cultural change, so that the very people who once proclaimed hated of government now advocate its use against dissidents of all sorts, especially against those who would dare call for curbs in the totalitarian bureaucracy of the military, or suggest that Bush is something less than infallible in his foreign-policy decisions. The lesson here is that it is always a mistake to advocate government action, for there is no way you can fully anticipate how government will be used. Nor can you ever count on a slice of the population to be moral in its advocacy of the uses of the police power. Editor & Publisher, for example, posted a small note the other day about a column written by Al Neuharth, the founder of USA Today, in which he mildly suggested that the troops be brought home from Iraq "sooner rather than later." The editor of E&P was just blown away by the letters that poured in, filled with venom and hate and calling for Neuharth to be tried and locked away as a traitor. The letters compared him with pro-Hitler journalists, and suggested that he was objectively pro-terrorist, choosing to support the Muslim jihad over the US military. Other letters called for Neuharth to get the death penalty for daring to take issue with the Christian leaders of this great Christian nation. I'm actually not surprised at this. It has been building for some time. If you follow hate-filled sites such as Free Republic, you know that the populist right in this country has been advocating nuclear holocaust and mass bloodshed for more than a year now. The militarism and nationalism dwarfs anything I saw at any point during the Cold War. It celebrates the shedding of blood, and exhibits a maniacal love of the state. The new ideology of the red-state bourgeoisie seems to actually believe that the US is God marching on earth – not just godlike, but really serving as a proxy for God himself. Along with this goes a kind of worship of the presidency, and a celebration of all things public sector, including egregious law like the Patriot Act, egregious bureaucracies like the Department of Homeland Security, and egregious centrally imposed regimentation like the No Child Left Behind Act. It longs for the state to throw its weight behind institutions like the two-parent heterosexual family, the Christian charity, the homogeneous community of native- born patriots. In 1994, the central state was seen by the bourgeoisie as the main threat to the family; in 2004 it is seen as the main tool for keeping the family together and ensuring its ascendancy. In 1994, the state was seen as the enemy of education; today, the same people view the state as the means of raising standards and purging education of its left-wing influences. In 1994, Christians widely saw that Leviathan was the main enemy of the faith; today, they see Leviathan as the tool by which they will guarantee that their faith will have an impact on the country and the world. Paul Craig Roberts is right: "In the ranks of the new conservatives, however, I see and experience much hate. It comes to me in violently worded, ignorant and irrational emails from self-professed conservatives who literally worship George Bush. Even Christians have fallen into idolatry. There appears to be a large number of Americans who are prepared to kill anyone for George Bush." Again: "Like Brownshirts, the new conservatives take personally any criticism of their leader and his policies. To be a critic is to be an enemy." In short, what we have alive in the US is an updated and Americanized fascism. Why fascist? Because it is not leftist in the sense of egalitarian or redistributionist. It has no real beef with business. It doesn't sympathize with the downtrodden, labor, or the poor. It is for all the core institutions of bourgeois life in America: family, faith, and flag. But it sees the state as the central organizing principle of society, views public institutions as the most essential means by which all these institutions are protected and advanced, and adores the head of state as a godlike figure who knows better than anyone else what the country and world's needs, and has a special connection to the Creator that permits him to discern the best means to bring it about. The American right today has managed to be solidly anti-leftist while adopting an ideology – even without knowing it or being entirely conscious of the change – that is also frighteningly anti-liberty. This reality turns out to be very difficult for libertarians to understand or accept. For a long time, we've tended to see the primary threat to liberty as coming from the left, from the socialists who sought to control the economy from the center. But we must also remember that the sweep of history shows that there are two main dangers to liberty, one that comes from the left and the other that comes from the right. Europe and Latin America have long faced the latter threat, but its reality is only now hitting us fully. What is the most pressing and urgent threat to freedom that we face in our time? It is not from the left. If anything, the left has been solid on civil liberties and has been crucial in drawing attention to the lies and abuses of the Bush administration. No, today, the clear and present danger to freedom comes from the right side of the ideological spectrum, those people who are pleased to preserve most of free enterprise but favor top-down management of society, culture, family, and school, and seek to use a messianic and belligerent nationalism to impose their vision of politics on the world. There is no need to advance the view that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. However, it is time to recognize that the left today does represent a counterweight to the right, just as it did in the 1950s when the right began to adopt anti-communist militarism as its credo. In a time when the term patriotism means supporting the nation's wars and statism, a libertarian patriotism has more in common with that advanced by The Nation magazine: The other company of patriots does not march to military time. It prefers the gentle strains of 'America the Beautiful' to the strident cadences of 'Hail to the Chief' and 'The Stars and Stripes Forever.' This patriotism is rooted in the love of one's own land and people, love too of the best ideals of one's own culture and tradition. This company of patriots finds no glory in puffing their country up by pulling others' down. This patriotism is profoundly municipal, even domestic. Its pleasures are quiet, its services steady and unpretentious. This patriotism too has deep roots and long continuity in our history. Ten years ago, these were "right wing" sentiments; today the right regards them as treasonous. What should this teach us? It shows that those who saw the interests of liberty as being well served by the politicized proxies of free enterprise alone, family alone, Christianity alone, law and order alone, were profoundly mistaken. There is no proxy for liberty, no cause that serves as a viable substitute, and no movement by any name whose success can yield freedom in our time other than the movement of freedom itself. We need to embrace liberty and liberty only, and not be fooled by groups or parties or movements that only desire a temporary liberty to advance their pet interests. As Rothbard said in 1965: The doctrine of liberty contains elements corresponding with both contemporary left and right. This means in no sense that we are middle-of-the-roaders, eclectically trying to combine, or step between, both poles; but rather that a consistent view of liberty includes concepts that have also become part of the rhetoric or program of right and of left. Hence a creative approach to liberty must transcend the confines of contemporary political shibboleths. There has never in my lifetime been a more urgent need for the party of liberty to completely secede from conventional thought and established institutions, especially those associated with all aspects of government, and undertake radical intellectual action on behalf of a third way that rejects the socialism of the left and the fascism of the right. Indeed, the current times can be seen as a training period for all true friends of liberty. We need to learn to recognize the many different guises in which tyranny appears. Power is protean because it must suppress that impulse toward liberty that exists in the hearts of all people. The impulse is there, tacitly waiting for the consciousness to dawn. When it does, power doesn’t stand a chance. December 31, 2004
It seems there are quite a few people who believe that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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September 5, 2008
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#309. To: Mudboy Slim (#308)
#310. To: Rotara (#307)
"Your right/left bullcrap..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#311. To: Rotara, Christine (#300)
"Is your show on Freedom4um over now?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#312. To: Mudboy Slim (#310)
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The Federal Leviathan really only needs to protect our National Security and defend our borders, the States can pretty much handle everything else. You are not telling me anything I don't know when you point out that BOTH Parties have failed to defend our borders, but you gotta admit the RATS have utterly failed to defend our national interests. And yes, a lotta RINOs have undermined ReaganConservatism over the years, and I pretty much never sing the praises of "GOPers" or "Republicans" or "Pubbies" becuz, as a whole, the GOP has NOT lived up to their promises of fiscal conservatism.
#313. To: Mudboy Slim, Christine (#311)
"Is your show on Freedom4um over now?"
#314. To: Mudboy Slim (#310)
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#315. To: Mudboy Slim, All (#312)
TOP 10 REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN
#316. To: Mudboy Slim (#310)
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#317. To: Ferret Mike (#316)
#318. To: Ferret Mike (#316)
Joe Biden On Fire
#319. To: Ferret Mike (#316)
Joe Biden On Fire
#320. To: Rotara (#315)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#321. To: Rotara (#313)
"I would've 86'ed you..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#322. To: Rotara (#312)
"...the economy being driven to collapse"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#323. To: Mudboy Slim (#320)
"TOP REASON TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN"
#324. To: Mudboy Slim (#321)
"I would've 86'ed you..."
#325. To: Mudboy Slim (#322)
"...the economy being driven to collapse"
#326. To: Rotara (#302)
#327. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#326)
I know exactly who and what Mudbot is.
#328. To: Rotara (#327)
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sinkspur sighting!
#329. To: Rotara (#325)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#330. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#328)
"Who or what is sinkspur?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#331. To: Rotara (#327)
"sinkspur sighting"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#332. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Rotara, Jethro Tull (#326)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#333. To: All (#332)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#334. To: Mudboy Slim (#291)
Lord Acton
#335. To: Mudboy Slim (#332)
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This is a battle that will resonate long after November 4th of this year. The battle over Barry Hussein's political soul has already been won...Obama's a full-fledged Marxist...MUD
Lord Acton
#336. To: James Deffenbach (#334)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#337. To: All (#335)
Lord Acton
#338. To: Mudboy Slim (#336)
However, in 2002, when my Virginia Senator John Warner was running fer reelection, I couldn't support that RINO and became an Independent.
Lord Acton
#339. To: James Deffenbach (#338)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#340. To: Rotara (#315)
In his 1996 book, Rudman wrote that Christian conservatives include in their ranks “enough anti-abortion zealots, would-be censors, homophobes, bigots and latter-day Elmer Gantrys to discredit any party that is unwise enough” to align itself with them.
Lord Acton
#341. To: Mudboy Slim (#339)
LOL...fwiw, I have NEVER voted fer a RAT and never will. But I've often voted fer Libertarians at the local level...MUD
Lord Acton
#342. To: Rotara (#315)
With Warren Rudman at his side, it’s anyone’s guess whether McCain’s Supreme Court picks would be appreciably better than Clinton’s or Obama’s.
Lord Acton
#343. To: Rotara (#315)
President Bush – he of “compassionate conservatism,” mega-spending hikes and Hamas statehood– has just announced that John McCain is a “true conservative.”
Lord Acton
#344. To: Rotara, Mudboy Slim (#309)
Stick your rush up your cheney.
Lord Acton
#345. To: Mudboy Slim, James Deffenbach, all (#336)
Islamofascism
#346. To: All (#345)
#347. To: WTF? (#346)
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Islamofascism
#348. To: WTF? (#345)
...we could end most of America’s problems if we simply repeated the word Islamo-fascism enough times...
Lord Acton
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