Mud - isn't it just a little dishonest of you to blame this solely on the Democrats? Seems to me that George W. Bush requested the 700 billion dollar baillout, and most of the rest of your GOP heroes were in bed with Barney Frank on this issue. The GOP loves welfare too - as long as the taxpayer sponsored welfare goes to their cronies on Wall Street. Barney and George aren't "destroying" Wall Street - they're giving Wall Street a windfall taken from the taxpayer's pocket.
I used to say that what they're doing to bail out investment firms who gambled themselves into bankruptcy is no different from a Fed Gov promise to cover people's gambling losses in Las Vegas, but that's not fair to gamblers in Vegas. Those in Vegas gamble away their own money. AIG, Goldman Sachs, Lehmann Brothers, Fannie and Freddie gamble away other people's money.
People like Mud are only against these things when Democrats do them. When Republicans are for them, they either ignore them or make excuses.
What both parties are doing with the baillout is encouraging Wall Street to keep on making risky investments (derivatives, etc) with people's savings. If they know that they can count on taxpayer money when their investments go under, there is no hope for any kind of discipline or responsibility on Wall Street. Cutting them loose and letting them free fall may be painful at first, but at least it would prevent the same thing from happening again. Now, we can count on seeing more of the same every few years.
Brings back fond memories of S&L in the early 90's doesn't it?
The Vast LeftWing Media Whore'd's "spin" that the GOP's rabid desire for "deregulation" caused the latest Housing implosion is shown to be a bald- faced LIE...MUD
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I see you're here to spread the PsyOps Shit thickly again.
This is not left and right and the attempt to frame it as such is simply spin and all spin is, is another name for a lie.
No, the Demoncrats are not responsible for the failure of the economy and Freddie and Fannie are simply front operations.
The mortgage industry does not necessitate a multi-trillion dollar Bail-out LOOTING of the American Public.
This is all a faux crisis, but you are right it was CREATED, but it was done intentionally and willfully by a few Banking Famblies named Rothschild and Rockefeller.
It is simply a scam to STEAL from the American Taxpayer in a Reverse Robin Hood action - "Steal from the poor and give to the hyper-wealthy".
This not purely about money but is about power and control.
It is criminal activity from beginning to end.
Your attempt to divert and spin it otherwise is duly noted.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
It is simply a scam to STEAL from the American Taxpayer in a Reverse Robin Hood action - "Steal from the poor and give to the hyper-wealthy".
Our two party duopoly has made the US a very strange place to live.
If you're super rich, you get all of the benefits of capitalism (profits) without any of its risks costs, because if you go under, you can count on the taxpayers and Uncle Sam to bail you out.
If you're poor, you get all of the benefits of socialism (health care, welfare) without paying a penny.
If you're middle or working class, you get all of the costs of socialism and capitalism, minus the benefits.
The Democrats can count on the support of society's dregs in exchange for welfare. The Republicans can count on support from Wall Street in exchange for corporate welfare.
Both parties want your vote, your campaign donations, and your support, but neither will give you squat in return for them.
The GOP's Wall Street cronies want it both ways. They want deregulation, but they also want the taxpayer to bail them out when their bad investment decisions tank.
If they want deregulation, let the Wall Street speculators go bankrupt or learn to use their funds responsibly. If they want taxpayer sponsored bailouts, they shouldn't complain that they have to abide by certain guidelines in return. If the FedGov insures your losses, as was the case with Savings and Loans, it's perfectly reasonable for the insurer to say how you can or can't use your money.
The ideal solution would be to have no bailout and to deregulate, but that isn't going to happen. Some form of the bailout will be shoved down our throats, and, we'll get the worst of both worlds.
"This is not left and right and the attempt to frame it as such is simply spin..."
You are wrong, O_I...this mandate that banks lend to people who cannot afford to pay back the loans is Leftist bilge. Add to that the Leftist refusal to allow America to harvest our own energy resources (and the resulting shock of higher fuel prices) and it's obvious where this "crisis" was originated.
"Your attempt to divert and spin it otherwise is duly noted."
Likewise, I'm sure...MUD
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Save your stupidity for another time. Unlike you, I am a mainstream Republican and have been for fifty plus years.
McCain_Rocks posted on 2008-10-28 11:46:53 ET Reply Trace
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
Save your stupidity for another time. Unlike you, I am a mainstream Republican and have been for fifty plus years.
The only way that I would believe that is if you told us that you are an inmate at an asylum. Your posts are just too insane to be genuine posts from a sane person.
Don posted on 2008-10-28 11:50:31 ET Reply Trace
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
McCain is a disgusting, whiney assed, lying prick who tried to use the office of senator to intimidate those who know the truth about his efforts to bury the MIA controversy, and his treason while relaxing in the arms of Vietnamese hookers in Hanoi.
True heroes were POWs like Capt Rocky Versace, US Army who encouraged his men to resist and harassed the enemy so much that they murdered and buried him in an unmarked grave.
Meanwhile, SONGBIRD was doing interviews for CUBAN RADIO and "confessing" that he was indeed a war criminal thereby condemning other imprisoned flyers to bone breaking torture and death.
And, what's really disgusting is for McCain to rely on the words of career military officers to dispute testimony regarding POWs-MIAs, as if officers are known for going rogue and being unflaggingly critical of bad policy or govt propaganda. They aren't. They don't ascend the chain of command by bucking US Senators, presidents or ranking command officers. They are promoted for being agreeable and for helping to bury the bodies.
The generals McCain cited as support for his argument would YES MAN for him as readily as McCain did for the Viet Cong.
As the son and grandson of Naval heroes and admirals McCain knew what was expected of him while in captivity, but he simply wasn't up for it and lacked the character to suffer when he could coast. And, coast he did, in hotel rooms with hookers while his fellow captives were getting their guts stomped out and their arms dislocated in the Hoa Lò Prison.
"Now I know what Jesus was going through!"__Aileen Wuornos
"You have the Bush dynasty, and their robotic voters, to thank for the Negro Marxist."
Can't really argue with that, but don't leave out the RINOs in the Senate (who undercut Bush whenever he actually tried to support conservative ideals like Social Security Reform and drilling in ANWR) for their share of the blame...MUD
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"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
Yes, they dreamed they saw a righteous army pleadin', Prayin' fer things from their King. There were Leftists kneelin' and young girls squealin'... Sang, "Barack is Liberty!! 'Cuz we got Big Change comin'...Dubyuh's DONE!!" Our youth's voting fer a dream!! Hope that Brother Barry is "The One"... Who can keep this Country free!! Pray that Prez'dent Barry is "The One"... Who will keep my Nation free!!
Press was lyin' fer their Lord Messiah... A tingle ran up their thighs. Networks swear that they ain't biased... Whilst ignoring Barry's lies. The Syntaurs' band's playin' in my head... RightWing felt like getting high. I was thinking about what Li'l Bill had said... He''s believin' the Media's lies. Thinking about what Obama said... But I reckon it was a lie.
(Reprise)
Folks, Left dreams of raising income taxes higher... Sosh'lists take yer raise fer Big Guv!! There were Lib'rals cryin', "Raise taxes higher!! Obama's the "Chosen One!!"" It's all a dream, George Soros' dream... Big Guv'ment's what they love. Prayin' Brother Barry's power greed... Ain't got freedom on the run. Standin' against Leftists' growing needs... 'Til forever.
Mudboy Slim (17 November 2008)
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"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
Our dreams we work towards... This land rejects all kings!! The Truth shall find its voice... For freedom, we sing...patriots shall sing!!
"Dutch" Reagan told me, "Big Guv'ment shouldn't grow!!" Good men must take a stand...smaller Guv'ment is our goal!! Folks, the Truth is everything!!
The "choice" of the RATS...they'd retreat...NO CHANCE!! We'll fight the fight so Left's free to prance... Folks, imagine RATS called MUD a dreamer. How many times must Guv'ment LIE?!! How many fears must good patriots fight?!! Country suffers from RATS' madness... Freep fer Justice!! Ohhh...freep fer Justice!!
(musical interlude)
Right's slashing our taxes...in God we trust!! We're Liberty's friend and for Justice we lust!! Take a stand...WIN THE WAR!! White doves shall fly!! Peace to all!! 'Cuz when Right fights, the SheepMasters'll fall!! Left ain't scarey anymore.
Said Rush to the crowd, "With the Truth, we'll fight!!" Black thread shall smite Left's fears and Left's lies... AlQueda's Death and Violence!! How many times must Lib'rals lie?! How come RINOs like avoiding fights?! Country suffers from RATS' madness!! Ohh...freep fer Justice!! Ohhh...help freep fer Justice!!
(FreakJam ensues....)
Mudboy Slim (15 February 2006)
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I wuz drivin' home, early Sunday mornin', thru DeeCeeVille... List'nin' to Ol' Mick Jagger on the AM radio station... And the DeeJay said, "You know you always got the Left by your side!" And I wuz so pleased to be informed of this... That I drove thru Slick's Whore House with my four-wheel!! Thank ya, Clinton!! Thank ya, Gore!!
Slick had an arrangement to meet a girl... Another intern date... But Bill thought by the time he got there... She'd be off, she'd be doin' the nearest Senator she could find!! Much to his surprise, there she wuz...pickin' at her thong-wear... Big Mo' Lewinsky, blue beret on her head... Justa girl...with thunderous thighs!!
So if Ol' Hell'ry won't suck... 'Cuz the First Beach don't do guys... Find a girl with thunderous thighs!! And if you're horny and dusty... 'Cuz your wife don't do the jam... Getta girl with thunderous thighs!! Well...
Well, the Lib'rals keep right on sayin'... That all you need to do is send more tax money to the... "Sacred" DeeCee Whores of Guv'ment... Located somewhere in downtown District of Columbia!!
But next week, they'll play my songs on the ray-dee-oh... And all Right's dreams will come true!! Libs're dead...and next week, Lord hear my prayer... Hear me, world...folks, you know what kinda lies Slick spouts... But I'll tell ya...
So now Slick's down on his luck... 'Cuz Ol' Hell'ry don't do guys... Hired a girl...with thunderous thighs!! Now, if you're downright disgusted... And you're tired of Slick's scam... Hire a girl to prove that Slick lies! Yes, now Bill's down on his luck... In jail, Ol' Slick'll soon reside... He'll be the "girl" with pasty white thighs!!
Mudboy Slim (9/29/2000)
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After five good years together... Fightin' fer what is Right, We disagreed 'bout Dubyuh... 'Cuz spending's outta sight!! It's that ol' familiar fight, folks... Fed'ral spendin' must come down!! We must fight now fer less Guv'ment... Devolve Power outta DeeCee town!!
Well, I voted once fer Dubyuh... And FReeper songs I sang!! But I'm startin' to feel like a fool... 'Cuz spendin's growin' again!! So when it's time to vote next Autumn... My support it shan't come cheap... Bush's fooled me once, feel like such a dunce, I swear, Need a spendin' FREEZE!! (And I said)
chorus: When d'we start bein' Lib'ral whores?!! It's Big Guv'ment I abhor!! Were yer promises just big lies?! How come we didn't CONVICT RATS' spies?! When do Conservatives get our turn?! Fed'ral budgets got money ta burn!! GOP's somewhere that I don't belong... I wanna Party that knows BigGuv'ment's Wrong!!
Well, I voted 'gainst Jawn Wahnah... 'Cuz that RINO makes Libs proud!! But I expect more from Dubyuh... He'll last eight years, I've no doubt!! But we gotta put on spendin' brakes... And fight against Left's slime!! So before you tell Ol' Mud to leave, Cut spendin' fer all-time!!
(repeat chorus) When d'we start bein' Lib'ral whores?!! It's Big Guv'ment that I abhor!! Were yer promises just big lies?! How come we didn't CONVICT RATS' spies?! When do Conservatives get our turn?! Fed'ral budgets got money ta burn!! GOP's somewhere I wanna belong... I wanna Party that knows BigGuv'ment's Wrong!!
...sure, folks, I wanna belong... Wanna Party that knows Big Guv'ment's Wrong!!
Mudboy Slim (03/07/2004)
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Here comes the sun...Barry's "The One!!" And I say, "He's alright!!"
Lord Obama, it's been a long cold lonely eight years... Our Messiah, we feel our fears dry up like tears. Here comes "The One!!" He is OUR sun!! Still I say, "We're all right!!"
Lord Obama, bright smiles returning to our faces... Our Messiah, it's been eight years since Slick was here!! Here comes the sun...Barry's "The One!!" Marxists sing, "We're not Right!!"
Sun, sun, sun, here He comes... Sun, sun, sun, Barry Won!! Sun, sun, sun, here He comes... Sun, sun, sun, Barry Won!! Sun, sun, sun, here He comes...
Lord Obama, we hear the ice no longer melting... Our Messiah, it's been eight years since Slick was here!! Harness the sun...Big Oil is Done!! But I say "This ain't Right!!" Here comes the sun...Barry's "The One!!" We must fight!! 'Cuz we're Right!!
Mudboy Slim (22 December 2008)
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Barry's Prez'dent...Dem's the facts of Life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Axelrod, he wears the Rovian mask. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Monopoly, twenty one, checkers, and chess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Hillary Clinton in her Sunday best. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah We like Change and we need Hope. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah DeeCee keeps borrowin' but our country's broke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Hey Barry, did you hear about this one? Tell me, what's the deal with Big Guv? Hey Barry, why you goofin' on Lincoln? Hey Nation, why're we so damned dumb?!! If you believe this country's headed fer ruin...(Obama Tune!!) If you believe Big Guv'ment's what we need, then sosh'lists shall rule!!
Barry starts talkin' and it sounds so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Networks they seem to be gettin' wood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Iran is troubling 'cuz nukes are in their grasp. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Is our President really up to the task? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Hey Barry, did you hear about this one? Tell me, why you dissin' on Rush?!! Hey Barry, are you workin' fer Soros? Hey Nation, are we losing touch? If you believe our country's headed fer ruin...(Obama Tune!!) If you believe Big Guv'ment's what we need, then lawyers shall rule!!...COME ON!!
Here's a little nugget fer the Freedom-believer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Here's a little post fer our Liberty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Guv'ment must stop spendin' like drunk sailors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah David Axelrod, he has a Rovian task. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Hey Barry, do you hear me sing this one? Tell me, why you dissin' on Rush?!! Hey Barry, don't you wanna just save US? Hey Barry, spending way too much!! If you believe, our country's headed fer ruin...(Obama Tune!!) If you believe Big Guv'ment's what we need, then Tyranny's cool?!!......COOL?!!
If you believe, this country's headed fer ruin...(Obama Tune!!) If you believe Big Guv'ment's what we need, then sosh'lists shall rule!! If you believe, our country's headed fer ruin...(Obama Tune!!) If you believe Big Guv'ment's what we need, then lawyers shall rule!!... If you believe, our country's headed fer ruin...(Obama Tune!!) If you believe Big Guv'ment's what we need, then Tyranny's cool?!!......COOL?!!
Mudboy Slim (27 January 2009)
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We are pleased to announce the "Defend America" Rally will be held on May 23, 2009 on the West Front Grassy Area at the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.
This is a "grass roots" rally that will bring any and all Americans who are concerned about the growth of the power of the federal government and the loss of individual freedom in America together for an afternoon that will help to raise the awareness of citizens around the country to this issue and to raise the awareness of politicians that we will not tolerate the transition of America to socialism.
Rally Particulars:
The rally will begin at 1:00pm on the sidewalk across from the National Archives building on 9th Street. Buses can unload rally attendees there prior to 1:00pm. Rally participants will march from the Archives building down 9th Street to the National Mall, turn east, and then march to the Capitol West Front Grassy Area for the rally. Speeches will begin at approximately 1:30pm. Rally participants who are driving themselves to the rally can meet at the Archives rally point or meet at the West Front Grassy Area.
WooHOOO...could be fun...MUD
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Guv'ment man...why you take our bread?! We don't like...when you spend and spend!! Guv'ment "change"...looks like Marxist past. Market losses...and high-priced gas... Guv'ment man...
BarryO, you'll tear this country down... We're on a spendin' lightnin' round!! Swear by God, Fed budget must come down! Country's bleedin' while you keep taxing... How long? How long? How-ow-ow?
(Big Man on guitar)
Guv'ment man...'tis like Reagan said, Tyranny blooms when good men dread... Guv'ment change gonna come at last... Devolve Power and do it fast... Guv'ment man!!
It's all rotten...yer spend and tax... Debt's gigantic...kids' futures' black. Guv'ment man...ain't gonna pay them back!! I hear Greenies and sosh'lists laughing... How long? How long? How-ow-ow?
(Guitar jammin')
Guv'ment man...'tis like Limbaugh said, Tyranny blooms when good men dread... Guv'ment change gonna come at last Devolve Power and do it fast... Guv'ment man!! Guv'ment Man!!
Mudboy Slim (4 February 2009)
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
"Oh my god. I am so scared for my country, and all other countries for that matter. This lady needs to be put in a retirement home."
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all