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Title: Anyone have any coverage of the Ron Paul Freedom Rally in DC yesterday, April 15th?
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Published: Apr 16, 2008
Author: 4um
Post Date: 2008-04-16 06:48:20 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Maybe I missed it.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

I'd be shocked if more than a couple of hundred people showed up; if that.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-04-16   6:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: who knows what evil (#1)

I didn't see any TV yesterday. Perhaps Tim Russert or Chris Mathews or maybe Brit Hume did a piece on it. I'm pretty sure C-Span was there with their cameras.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-16   7:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#2) (Edited)

There is coverage of the rally at some of the Ron Paul sites like the 'Daily Paul' and at 'antiwar.com'...estimates seem to be around 400 - 500 people...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-04-16   7:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: who knows what evil (#1)

I'd be shocked if more than a couple of hundred people showed up; if that.

That lack of supporters can be laid at Pauls feet.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   7:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78016

www.antiwar.com/blog/2008...5/dc-freedom-rally-today/

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-16   10:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: Cynicom (#4)

RP

Just think about it, had he stayed in the Revolution he claimed he was leading the O'philes would still be in deep cover.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-16   10:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: robin (#5)

Are they serious? That was Ron Paul's big rally?

Nah, can't be. I thought it was going to be in June. I have been checking his campaign site for news but haven't seen any.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-04-16   10:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: Critter (#7) (Edited)

June 21 is another I believe

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-16   10:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Like Perot, Paul left us holding an empty sack, with a hole in the bottom.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

I wish the sack were empty Cyni, it's now full of horse excrement and it reeks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-16   10:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: robin (#8)

It seems that no one knows what day the "real" march is.

I'm beginning to think that RP has totally given up on us.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-04-16   10:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: Critter (#11)

I'm beginning to think that RP has totally given up on us.

I've felt that way since the Trotsky memo.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-16   10:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, Robin (#10)

I wish the sack were empty Cyni, it's now full of horse excrement and it reeks.

I am beginning to smell it now.

OK, I admit it, I was wrong about RP. Where's my generous helping of crow?

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Critter  posted on  2008-04-16   10:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: robin (#12)

I've felt that way since the Trotsky memo.

Paul took a dive, that happens in politics, boxing and wrasslin.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: Critter (#13)

No one needs to eat crow critter.

Something instigated the infamous Trotsky memo. Most likely we will never know.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: Critter (#13)

I don't think anyone was wrong about RP, I think someone from Cheney's office got to him; hence the use of the very unlike RP word Trotsky.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-16   10:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

Something instigated the infamous Trotsky memo. Most likely we will never know.

Marxist right? Obama is a marxist too. So, getting obama would be like getting Ron Paul.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?'...So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. [snip] -- B.Obama - audio from the April 6, 08 Obama fundraiser in S.F. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-16   10:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: Peppa (#17)

Marxist right? Obama is a marxist too. So, getting obama would be like getting Ron Paul.

Difficult to tell as many people have doubt as to who wrote the memo.

Knowing the author as a positive would help.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

Difficult to tell as many people have doubt as to who wrote the memo.

Knowing the author as a positive would help.

Well, the accusation is enough to convince me.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?'...So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. [snip] -- B.Obama - audio from the April 6, 08 Obama fundraiser in S.F. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-16   10:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: Peppa (#19)

Perhaps Paul had help in deciding to take a dive and the people were good enough to help draft a memo.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: Cynicom (#20)

Perhaps Paul had help in deciding to take a dive and the people were good enough to help draft a memo.

Good point.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?'...So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. [snip] -- B.Obama - audio from the April 6, 08 Obama fundraiser in S.F. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-16   11:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-16   11:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#23. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Despite the shills and trolls on this board and contrary to popular belief Ron Paul did not quit. Join the Revolution in it's next stage......

www.breakthematrix.com

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2008-04-16   11:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: Pinguinite, Cynicom (#22)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

In Cyni's defense, I was a huge Ron Paul supporter myself, until I saw a total lack of effort on his part to carry on the campaign. I'm still getting emails from McCain, whose campaign I never once contacted, yet I've received nothing at all from Ron Paul since January or so. I've signed up both with his website and with the local meetup groups, and there's been nothing, zip, nada, zilch in terms of any updates or plans of action from either him or his campaign.

I do think people here are right, in that he was either "given an offer he couldn't refuse", or outright gave up.

I appreciate your strong respect and admiration for the man, but something isn't quite right with the situation, and I don't think it's a sign of being a shill in bringing it up...

You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-04-16   15:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#23)

Despite the shills and trolls on this board and contrary to popular belief Ron Paul did not quit. Join the Revolution in it's next stage......

No one on this board was a more ardent supporter of Ron Paul than I was, but he has virtually disappeared on us. Where is this big march? When is it? Where is mention of it on his site? Where are the emails promoting it?

100 different groups have 100 different dates for 100 different marches right now. Every one of them will flop.

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Critter  posted on  2008-04-16   16:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: FormerLurker (#24)

I do think people here are right, in that he was either "given an offer he couldn't refuse", or outright gave up.

You do realize you're talking about the guy who returns some of his congressional pay to the treasury, don't you? And that's just for starters. If he gave up... if... then I think there's no one here who can rightly cast the first stone.

People like Cyni apparently expected Ron Paul to be a savior with the power to walk on water, call down plagues of frogs and locusts from on-high and maybe raise the dead. And because he turned out to be an ordinary man without comic book powers, he's a turncoat and betrayer. To me, that's, at best, just stupid.

I appreciate your strong respect and admiration for the man, but something isn't quite right with the situation,

No, nothing's wrong. At worst, Ron Paul is just one more patriot who did his best to change the world and failed to do so.

and I don't think it's a sign of being a shill in bringing it up...

Bringing it up a few times, as conversations warrant, no. Every 3rd post, I'm not so sure.

I appreciate your comments.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-16   18:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, Pinguinite, who knows what evil (#0)

Freedom Rally Wash DC 4/15/08 - Ernest Hancock (Article)

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buckeye  posted on  2008-04-16   18:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: Critter (#25)

what the hell good would a 'march' do anyway? a way to spend an afternoon, and post on youtube perhaps, but other than that?

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2008-04-17   4:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite, Jethro Tull, Peppa, FOH, Christine, critter, buckeye, All (#24)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

In Cyni's defense, I was a huge Ron Paul supporter myself, until I saw a total lack of effort on his part to carry on the campaign.

All...

This was something that Christine and I kept to ourselves, but to clarify any distortions being spread I will say this...

Christine and I collaborated on the Ron Paul effort for 4um. Only the two of us, at my instigation.

I underwrote the entire cost of the intended ad at a cost of nearly $2000, knowing full well the members of 4um would never come up with that amount of money. The talkers and non doers indeed were silent, they know who they are.

I admonished Christine at the time that this effort would indeed show those members that were Americans, and those that were not friends at all, rather they were in hiding, not distressed with our government, but rather just partisans waiting to use 4um.

As a result, I ate several hundred dollars of the cost, which would have been much more had it not been for two Americans that stepped forward to help shoulder the burden. Beyond that was my regular contributions to Paul, so that we might at least have a choice, even though winning was never a possibility.

Only Christine knows the people that contributed and the amounts, the number of contributors vs the talkers on 4um was a sad but true indication between Americans and partisan believers.

When Paul took a dive, and suddenly became a devout republican, only the naive and gullible would have kept sending money. For those that have not done their own research, Paul had done this once before, due to pressure from Pat Buchanan, leaving his supporters in the lurch. It is all on the record for those that care to look.

Nearly a year ago I warned Christine that with passing months, many of our friends would out themselves as partisan believers, not as friends looking for a better government. With that in mind I compiled a list of those that would reveal themselves, that list proved to be 100 per cent correct, except I overlooked three "friends" that have since showed their true colors.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-17   11:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#30. To: Cynicom (#29)

I underwrote the entire cost

Hmm.. shilling for Ron Paul were you? ;)

As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-17   12:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: Peppa (#30)

Hmm.. shilling for Ron Paul were you? ;)

Twenty million "Americans voted for Perot", knowing he could not win but we had a choice.

The other 80 million did their duty and voted for party.

They are well programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-17   12:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: robin (#5)

"One hundred people milling about “listening” to speakers that can’t be heard due to faulty PA equipment does not a revolution make."

Ron Paul ROCKS...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-17   12:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: Cynicom (#29)

Bravo, and thanks!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-17   12:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: Cynicom (#14) (Edited)

Dog bites man and professed Christian politician takes dive .... news at 11.

nobody  posted on  2008-04-17   12:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: Cynicom (#31)

Twenty million "Americans voted for Perot", knowing he could not win but we had a choice.

The other 80 million did their duty and voted for party.

They are well programmed.

Indeed.

The country needs an exorcism or something.

As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-17   12:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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